Possible to get enough skill points on one character to do the following?:

CMDR_Un1k0rn

-PvE
-PvP
-Maxed crafting
-All the passives

Character is my stamblade main. Just wondering, with enough grind, could I make a character, that, with gear switches and skill swaps, could be both competent in PvE as DD, AND PvP content, whilst also being able to sustain themselves in crafting?

I've no idea how many skill points there actually are.

I know it would be a grind. That's fine. I'm pretty thick-skinned against grind.

TIA!

Flaminir

Yep.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Flaminir wrote: »

Yep.

Awesome, that makes my day. I want to do as much as possible with my main.

rotaugen454

My main does all that and still has unused skill points. Of course, he’s done every quest and all skyshards (minus maybe 4 in DLC).

jaws343

Yes, the only thing you may need to do is not unlock every skill. But my main has maxed passives, crafting, vamp, psijic, thieves guild and dark brotherhood, and fully specced with skills that can be swapped when needed. Still have around 20 or so SPs unused and I still haven't collected all skyshards.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

jaws343 wrote: »

Yes, the only thing you may need to do is not unlock every skill. But my main has maxed passives, crafting, vamp, psijic, thieves guild and dark brotherhood, and fully specced with skills that can be swapped when needed. Still have around 20 or so SPs unused and I still haven't collected all skyshards.

Sounds like I'll be fine then. Cheers buddy.

tmbrinks

My main character is fully specced for healing as well as being a DD, in both PvP, PvE, trials, dungeons, BG's. She's also a master crafter with all 7 skill lines fully unlocked to do master writs. I also still have another 26 skill points I can get from Alliance War ranks that I haven't gotten yet.

I don't have everything unlocked, but I have a lot of it!

Katahdin

Yes I do this with one of my stamblades now

Jeremy

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

-PvE
-PvP
-Maxed crafting
-All the passives

Character is my stamblade main. Just wondering, with enough grind, could I make a character, that, with gear switches and skill swaps, could be both competent in PvE as DD, AND PvP content, whilst also being able to sustain themselves in crafting?

I've no idea how many skill points there actually are.

I know it would be a grind. That's fine. I'm pretty thick-skinned against grind.

TIA!

It's possible, but requires a lot of effort - especially the PvP ranks which takes a lot of time.

The biggest encumbrance for not being disadvantaged when doing both PvE and PvP would be campaign point allocation - assuming you don't want to spend gold to change then back and forth every time you do one or the other. But you can side step that by just sticking to none CP PvP (which is what I do).

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Jeremy wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

-PvE
-PvP
-Maxed crafting
-All the passives

Character is my stamblade main. Just wondering, with enough grind, could I make a character, that, with gear switches and skill swaps, could be both competent in PvE as DD, AND PvP content, whilst also being able to sustain themselves in crafting?

I've no idea how many skill points there actually are.

I know it would be a grind. That's fine. I'm pretty thick-skinned against grind.

TIA!

It's possible, but requires a lot of effort - especially the PvP ranks which takes a lot of time.

The biggest encumbrance for not being disadvantaged when doing both PvE and PvP would be campaign point allocation - assuming you don't want to spend gold to change then back and forth every time you do one or the other. But you can side step that by just sticking to none CP PvP (which is what I do).

That's a fair point you raise, though I have considered this, assuming what I say next is correct?

Is the CP redistribution always 3k gold even if you're at max CP?

vgabor

Yes it is possible, my main crafter is a stamblade with all stam skill line, and I do both pve and pvp too. And also additionally have the psijic, thief and dark broderhood skill line as well.

You can have all the passives but probably want to be selective on active skills and only spend SP on what you want to use. Also you need all the dungeon (both group and public) skill points and skyshards, also most of the skyshards from overland and delves, plus SP from area quests too not just the main quest line. If you do pvp the pvp skill lines will sustain themselves from your pvp rank SP.

If you are on PC, get the Urich's Skill Point Finder (https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1863-UrichsSkillPointFinder.html) that helps a lot finding the required SP

Imza

yes it is always 3,000 gold to redistribute your champion points

CMDR_Un1k0rn

@vgabor thanks. I'll check that addon out shortly.

@Imza Cheers. I was 90% but you never know. CP redistro' will be no problem for me.

driosketch

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

-PvE
-PvP
-Maxed crafting
-All the passives

Character is my stamblade main. Just wondering, with enough grind, could I make a character, that, with gear switches and skill swaps, could be both competent in PvE as DD, AND PvP content, whilst also being able to sustain themselves in crafting?

I've no idea how many skill points there actually are.

I know it would be a grind. That's fine. I'm pretty thick-skinned against grind.

TIA!

It's possible, but requires a lot of effort - especially the PvP ranks which takes a lot of time.

The biggest encumbrance for not being disadvantaged when doing both PvE and PvP would be campaign point allocation - assuming you don't want to spend gold to change then back and forth every time you do one or the other. But you can side step that by just sticking to none CP PvP (which is what I do).

That's a fair point you raise, though I have considered this, assuming what I say next is correct?

Is the CP redistribution always 3k gold even if you're at max CP?

Yes, it is always a flat 3000 gold regardless of CP. Even then, if you make use of the jump points, you can balance a distribution that is viable in both even if it's off a couple % points here or there. For instance, if 100 points gives you 15% boost, 75 will still give you 14%.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

driosketch wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

-PvE
-PvP
-Maxed crafting
-All the passives

Character is my stamblade main. Just wondering, with enough grind, could I make a character, that, with gear switches and skill swaps, could be both competent in PvE as DD, AND PvP content, whilst also being able to sustain themselves in crafting?

I've no idea how many skill points there actually are.

I know it would be a grind. That's fine. I'm pretty thick-skinned against grind.

TIA!

It's possible, but requires a lot of effort - especially the PvP ranks which takes a lot of time.

The biggest encumbrance for not being disadvantaged when doing both PvE and PvP would be campaign point allocation - assuming you don't want to spend gold to change then back and forth every time you do one or the other. But you can side step that by just sticking to none CP PvP (which is what I do).

That's a fair point you raise, though I have considered this, assuming what I say next is correct?

Is the CP redistribution always 3k gold even if you're at max CP?

Yes, it is always a flat 3000 gold regardless of CP. Even then, if you make use of the jump points, you can balance a distribution that is viable in both even if it's off a couple % points here or there. For instance, if 100 points gives you 15% boost, 75 will still give you 14%.

Thanks. I'll have to look deeper into my build. Always room for improvement!

rotaugen454

If you are crazy like me and do basic crafting on 11 characters, you pull in 50k a day, so respec is nothing. I am on PC so i use Dressing Room addon to swap out sets and skills with a few clicks. Before I found that, I had to do it manually, ugh. I have to have the bag space to carry multiple sets though. There are enough skill points to switch out build role on the fly.

Kali_Despoine

You can't unlock everything but you can unlock everything you need skills/passives/crafting and still have some left over.

My main has almost every skill point in the game (missing new content as I stopped playing)
and the only thing I pay for is cp.
I keep 4 points in reserve for reasons

Switch gear, weapons and skills on the fly

Jeremy

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

-PvE
-PvP
-Maxed crafting
-All the passives

Character is my stamblade main. Just wondering, with enough grind, could I make a character, that, with gear switches and skill swaps, could be both competent in PvE as DD, AND PvP content, whilst also being able to sustain themselves in crafting?

I've no idea how many skill points there actually are.

I know it would be a grind. That's fine. I'm pretty thick-skinned against grind.

TIA!

It's possible, but requires a lot of effort - especially the PvP ranks which takes a lot of time.

The biggest encumbrance for not being disadvantaged when doing both PvE and PvP would be campaign point allocation - assuming you don't want to spend gold to change then back and forth every time you do one or the other. But you can side step that by just sticking to none CP PvP (which is what I do).

That's a fair point you raise, though I have considered this, assuming what I say next is correct?

Is the CP redistribution always 3k gold even if you're at max CP?

Yeah, it caps at 3k. So if you have the gold to spare you may not mind it as much.

For me, it's not really feasible because I routinely jump from PvE to PvP activities on a regular basis. Plus I hoard my gold for furniture.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

driosketch wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

-PvE
-PvP
-Maxed crafting
-All the passives

Character is my stamblade main. Just wondering, with enough grind, could I make a character, that, with gear switches and skill swaps, could be both competent in PvE as DD, AND PvP content, whilst also being able to sustain themselves in crafting?

I've no idea how many skill points there actually are.

I know it would be a grind. That's fine. I'm pretty thick-skinned against grind.

TIA!

It's possible, but requires a lot of effort - especially the PvP ranks which takes a lot of time.

The biggest encumbrance for not being disadvantaged when doing both PvE and PvP would be campaign point allocation - assuming you don't want to spend gold to change then back and forth every time you do one or the other. But you can side step that by just sticking to none CP PvP (which is what I do).

That's a fair point you raise, though I have considered this, assuming what I say next is correct?

Is the CP redistribution always 3k gold even if you're at max CP?

Yes, it is always a flat 3000 gold regardless of CP. Even then, if you make use of the jump points, you can balance a distribution that is viable in both even if it's off a couple % points here or there. For instance, if 100 points gives you 15% boost, 75 will still give you 14%.

Thanks. I'll have to look deeper into my build. Always room for improvement!

rotaugen454 wrote: »

If you are crazy like me and do basic crafting on 11 characters, you pull in 50k a day, so respec is nothing. I am on PC so i use Dressing Room addon to swap out sets and skills with a few clicks. Before I found that, I had to do it manually, ugh. I have to have the bag space to carry multiple sets though. There are enough skill points to switch out build role on the fly.

I pull in around 20-30k a day. So it's not like I'm poor. I've always had enough gold to live on.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Kali_Despoine wrote: »

You can't unlock everything but you can unlock everything you need skills/passives/crafting and still have some left over.

My main has almost every skill point in the game (missing new content as I stopped playing)
and the only thing I pay for is cp.
I keep 4 points in reserve for reasons

Switch gear, weapons and skills on the fly

That's exactly what I meant. Sorry, I could have been clearer. I don't expect to unlock everything; rather, I was just wondering if I could unlock what I need.

Cavedog

My main has every skill point possible in game and can do pretty much anything without re-spec'ing. Once you have all the skill points, you can fill out virtually every skill line on the same toon.....almost all of them, but not quite.

It's worth it to grind all the skill points for sure, except maybe the Alliance war skill points if you aren't into pvp, and if you are, it will take 1-2 years of regular playing to get to level 50 in alliance and have all those skill points too.

ShadowPaladin

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

-PvE
-PvP
-Maxed crafting
-All the passives

Character is my stamblade main. Just wondering, with enough grind, could I make a character, that, with gear switches and skill swaps, could be both competent in PvE as DD, AND PvP content, whilst also being able to sustain themselves in crafting?

I've no idea how many skill points there actually are.

I know it would be a grind. That's fine. I'm pretty thick-skinned against grind.

TIA!

Yes it is possible... I would recommend to you to take a look at this site https://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/build-planer/ … There you can test how many SPs you'll need for the setup you would like to have…


Best regards
Shadow

JimmyJuJu

Many (but not all) of the skill points available are listed with this addon: https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1863-UrichsSkillPointFinder.html

The big buckets are: 1) level 50, 2) main quest, 3) skyshards, 4) alliance ranks, 5) dungeon, quest, and zone achievements

Mr_Walker

Off the top of my head, not everything, but if you're a 9 trait crafter, you don't need those points, so you could come pretty close.

lukoi

I can do all of that on my stamblade and I am sitting on 15 surplus SP currently to experiment with.

Casterial

I have a PVP / PVE build maxed out, but no crafting and I used ~200 skill points

There are over 350 skill points that were confirmed in 2016. So add up all the DLC since then.

russelmmendoza

Yes definitely.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

As ever, many thanks for the insight.

You guys proving once again why the ESO community is awesome.

ghastley

Main thing you can't do is be more than one class, so you can't ever learn the other classes' skills. If you consider a specific class skill to be essential for a role, then that may rule it out.

Sheezabeast

I do this on my main Respec costs nearly 18k every time i wanna move points around, but it’s worth it.

Once you finish your crafting research you can take skill points out of the research passives for each craft you have finished, and use them in other things.

Good luck

TheShadowScout

I think the big question is how much you want to pack in one character.

For me the big choice is kinda "Either all the crafting, OR also TG and DB", and thus my crafters are my "honest" characters while my "ruthless" characters generally only do crafting as sideline; aka, for fluff reasons, like my main bounty huntress/assassin/thief girl learning alchemy, provisioning and jeweler for background purposes only - she likes to make her own poisons, she knows jewelry to pick out the good stuff when thieving, and she cooks as a hobby - and occasionally to infilitrate some place as "kitchen staff" (and part of her backstory is her secret dream of settling down running an inn in Vvardenfell someday... with some "herbal remedy" business on the sidelines)

As for my crafters, all class skills completed (maxed, morphed and passives), two weapons and one armor, one or two guilds and still ample skill points left over for All the crafting, so... yeah, its quite doable. And I haven't even got all the SP from everything yet on them, still have the public dungeons and many, many alliance ranks left there if I start running out...

In the end, I'd say you don't really have to worry about the skill points if you like to do stuff on your main. Because if you do stuff, you will rake them in anyhow from, well, doing stuff. All the quests that give out SP. All the skyshards. All the public dungeon group events. All those alliance ranks. it adds up to a nice amount...

Oh! Forgot something!
When you go crafting, you can save those "highlight resources" skill points, they are more annoying then useful for the most part. Since if you take your time and keep your eyes open, you will spot the resources easily enough anyhow, and I find all the glowy more vexing then helpful!