Crafter sets vs Found Sets

Cladius30

Are crafted sets as powerful as found sets?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

the 2,3,4 set bonuses are the same and there are no crafted 5 piece sets that are better then dropped sets, for any role, healer tank or dps. i have 10 toons and not one of them wears a crafted set.

Cladius30

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

the 2,3,4 set bonuses are the same and there are no crafted 5 piece sets that are better then dropped sets, for any role, healer tank or dps. i have 10 toons and not one of them wears a crafted set.

man that makes spending so much time and effort researching bad...

WrathOfInnos

Cladius30 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

the 2,3,4 set bonuses are the same and there are no crafted 5 piece sets that are better then dropped sets, for any role, healer tank or dps. i have 10 toons and not one of them wears a crafted set.

man that makes spending so much time and effort researching bad...

Still very useful for transmuting, but you only need the one trait researched for this.

Crafted sets aren’t bad either, like Julianos for example is within 1% of the damage of one of the sets currently considered best, Mother’s Sorrow.

Crafted sets also allow you to mix armor weights more easily. So you can make a heavy chest piece for example, and benefit from higher resistances while utilizing Undaunted passives for higher resources.

ghastley

The crafted sets let you get the better sets, and are available very early on.

Progression is roughly Overland<Crafted<Dungeon<Trial, with crafted having the extra benefit of being available in the exact weight/trait etc. you need right now, so they get used even when you can get something else, but haven't found the right piece yet.

Starlock

Cladius30 wrote: »

Are crafted sets as powerful as found sets?

As powerful for what? How do you play the game? If you don't care about fixating on competitive gaming and being a sheep to flavors of the month, crafted sets are fine. Several of them are a lot of fun.

tmbrinks

Starlock wrote: »

Cladius30 wrote: »

Are crafted sets as powerful as found sets?

As powerful for what? How do you play the game? If you don't care about fixating on competitive gaming and being a sheep to flavors of the month, crafted sets are fine. Several of them are a lot of fun.

There is no need for the "sheep" comments when it comes to gear. There are clear sets that are statistically better than others. Yet, unless you are doing end-game score pushing (a very, very, very, very small group of people), many crafted sets will allow you to do all content in the game.

But please, I've seen other comments you've made, stop trying to drive that wedge even further by taking cheap shots like this, especially in the "crafting" sub-forum.

NordSwordnBoard

Cladius30 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

the 2,3,4 set bonuses are the same and there are no crafted 5 piece sets that are better then dropped sets, for any role, healer tank or dps. i have 10 toons and not one of them wears a crafted set.

man that makes spending so much time and effort researching bad...

If you PvP, some sets being available in light, medium or heavy gives you some more creative room with builds. Same with making crafted jewelry, although that's very expensive to do if you want them gold. For example, you could make a heavy Seducer set to be a tanky healer. Lots of people wearing light Armor Master as sorcs is another example.

Feric51

Crafted gear is nice when trying new dropped sets as it allows you to fill in the gaps on what drops while you wait for your preferred set up. I.E. - When Necropotence became all the rage, I paired it with Julianos' on my mag sorc. I was able to acquire the jewelry pieces of Necro really quickly, but for people searching and searching for a sharpened (yeah, that was BiS for a while!) inferno/lightning staff combo they may have grinded (ground?) for months or spent hundreds of thousands in gold to get them.

In my case, I just equipped the first two divines body pieces I found and crafted my staves + remaining body slots. Once I got the staves I banked my Julianos' staves and replaced a body piece.

Crafting is, if nothing else, a huge leap in convenience. And, if you don't want to spend a ton of money at the outfit station, you can craft your own gear in the style you desire (assuming you have the proper motif(s)) and dyeing is then free.

Then of course there are the daily crafting writs, master writs, etc that are fringe benefits of crafting.


Grammar

Starlock

It used to be that having style required using crafted sets too. That isn't a thing anymore, for better and for worse, but I know I always used one crafted gear set back in the day for aesthetic reasons. I suppose you could still do that to have essentially two outfit slots on your character, but it requires making more sacrifices than most players are willing to make.

SirAndy

Cladius30 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

the 2,3,4 set bonuses are the same and there are no crafted 5 piece sets that are better then dropped sets, for any role, healer tank or dps. i have 10 toons and not one of them wears a crafted set.

man that makes spending so much time and effort researching bad...

Because one guy doesn't run any crafted sets your whole game experience is invalidated?


PS: My Pet Sorc still runs Julianos. Oh the horror of being 0.1% off BiS meta on a stationary dummy that doesn't fight back.
I know, i know, how can i possibly live with myself using that trash set ...

vesselwiththepestle

Julianos, Hunding's Rage, Torug's Pact and Kagrenac's Hope are all crafted sets which are still used in endgame content. Oh, and Sload's Semblance and Shacklebreaker of course, two very commonly used crafted sets in PvP.

In terms of power it's difficult to say, but it's only a handful sets dominating the meta, so you can't really speak of a pattern.

Cladius30

I think being able to craft 2 or 3 build sets would add alot of fun.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Cladius30 wrote: »

I think being able to craft 2 or 3 build sets would add alot of fun.

you can, juliano's/hundings are great for mag/stam and torug's pact is great for tanks.

Cladius30

Arent those 5 peice sets?

Suddwrath

Technically speaking, dropped sets will provide you with the most damage/utility compared to crafted sets (Olorime, Relequin, Vicious Ophidian, Ebon, Alkosh, Master Architect, Ravager, Seventh Legion, etc).

However, that is not to say that crafted sets are "bad". Julianos and Hundings are absolutely great in both PvE and PvP. There are not very many sets in the game which are good for both. Torug's Pact is used in endgame trials by tanks (but healers will probably be the ones to wear it next update). Kagrenac's Hope is another great set for PvE and PvP (can even be worn by a DPS or healer).

So while they are technically not as "powerful" as dropped sets, crafted sets are still very useful and you would be just fine running only crafted sets (especially in PvP where Julianos/Hundings + Shacklebreaker is more than adequate).