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Magwarden PvP help needed

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I levelled up a Magwarden and intend to put her into pvp, now the only question is, what sets/skills/cp setup
Any help would be very much appreciated!
PC/EU
  • Taleof2Cities
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    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden
    Edited by Taleof2Cities on April 28, 2019 3:14PM
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on April 28, 2019 3:23PM
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Do you run a PvP MagWarden, @ESO_Nightingale?

    What build do you suggest then?

    Edited by Taleof2Cities on April 28, 2019 3:27PM
  • Alcast
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    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Reading is key

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    Edited by Alcast on April 28, 2019 3:43PM
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Alcast wrote: »
    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Being able to read is key

    3ad6c841bd5777ef2ec36e877510d833.png

    Yes. @Alcast i read that but i still don't understand why you would suggest it when it does such poxy damage this update. Its NOT really strong. I cannot fathom how it is considered over major heroism. It is currently less than half of a spammable. Next patch I'd say it's perfectly fine as an option.

    For unstable wall, I'm really confused. The power in wall of elements is in it's snare and its much easier to hit with a bigger radius. 2 extra seconds is very helpful too.

    In the end your builds are your builds. But i wouldn't recommend this specific one to anyone (this patch).
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on April 28, 2019 3:54PM
    PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Do you run a PvP MagWarden, @ESO_Nightingale?

    What build do you suggest then?

    I would run dottz gaming's one
    PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
  • Alcast
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    Alcast wrote: »
    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Being able to read is key

    3ad6c841bd5777ef2ec36e877510d833.png

    Yes. @Alcast i read that but i still don't understand why you would suggest it when it does such poxy damage this update. Its NOT really strong. I cannot fathom how it is considered over major heroism. It is currently less than half of a spammable. Next patch I'd say it's perfectly fine as an option.

    For unstable wall, I'm really confused. The power in wall of elements is in it's snare and its much easier to hit with a bigger radius. 2 extra seconds is very helpful too.

    In the end your builds are your builds. But i wouldn't recommend this specific one to anyone (this patch).

    Ye I do understand that, the build is optimized for Battlegrounds and there it is quite a bit of damage if you add it on top of the other stuff.

    The reason for the differnt wall is that most people move out of it anyway pretty fast, so why not get a small tick off on the other one. But again, its all preference in the end.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Being able to read is key

    3ad6c841bd5777ef2ec36e877510d833.png

    Yes. @Alcast i read that but i still don't understand why you would suggest it when it does such poxy damage this update. Its NOT really strong. I cannot fathom how it is considered over major heroism. It is currently less than half of a spammable. Next patch I'd say it's perfectly fine as an option.

    For unstable wall, I'm really confused. The power in wall of elements is in it's snare and its much easier to hit with a bigger radius. 2 extra seconds is very helpful too.

    In the end your builds are your builds. But i wouldn't recommend this specific one to anyone (this patch).

    Ye I do understand that, the build is optimized for Battlegrounds and there it is quite a bit of damage if you add it on top of the other stuff.

    The reason for the differnt wall is that most people move out of it anyway pretty fast, so why not get a small tick off on the other one. But again, its all preference in the end.

    For next patch it would be a nice addition for sure. I've played against slab before and its never been noticable.

    That logic is sound when it comes to frost blockade, but not unstable wall of frost. With a larger radius its more likely that you will keep them in the wall for longer for more ticks. The explosion at the end won't do much at all in pvp. And its just not as good in pve either.
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  • Seleval
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    @Taleof2Cities as a DD
    Im already playibg full pve healer on a templar and enjoy damage dealing on a warden a bit more than healing (so far)

    Thanks for the Input so far guys! I'll read through the things you sent!
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  • Masterken
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    ez build, high dmg, nice sustain, nice tankiness. optimized for solo pvp or smallscale.

    u can swap around monster set ( as pirate skelly/shadowerend or balorg) or swapping lich for armor master backbar, switching some gliphs on mag recovery for sustain ofc.
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  • Insco851
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    Necro+lich
    Necro+ AM
    Necro+Steadfast
    Necro+Acuity

    Balorgs, Shadowrend, bloodspawn. Zaan (perma+zaan=lolz)

    Willpower, masters, asylum lightening staff.

    Enjoy
    Edited by Insco851 on April 29, 2019 12:59AM
  • Anti_Virus
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    Alcast wrote: »
    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Being able to read is key

    3ad6c841bd5777ef2ec36e877510d833.png

    Yes. @Alcast i read that but i still don't understand why you would suggest it when it does such poxy damage this update. Its NOT really strong. I cannot fathom how it is considered over major heroism. It is currently less than half of a spammable. Next patch I'd say it's perfectly fine as an option.

    For unstable wall, I'm really confused. The power in wall of elements is in it's snare and its much easier to hit with a bigger radius. 2 extra seconds is very helpful too.

    In the end your builds are your builds. But i wouldn't recommend this specific one to anyone (this patch).

    On my stamden I run crystallized slab, the minor maim proc is useful to me.


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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Being able to read is key

    3ad6c841bd5777ef2ec36e877510d833.png

    Yes. @Alcast i read that but i still don't understand why you would suggest it when it does such poxy damage this update. Its NOT really strong. I cannot fathom how it is considered over major heroism. It is currently less than half of a spammable. Next patch I'd say it's perfectly fine as an option.

    For unstable wall, I'm really confused. The power in wall of elements is in it's snare and its much easier to hit with a bigger radius. 2 extra seconds is very helpful too.

    In the end your builds are your builds. But i wouldn't recommend this specific one to anyone (this patch).

    On my stamden I run crystallized slab, the minor maim proc is useful to me.


    You're going to get more benefit and use out of a frost damage enchantment and swapping this to shimmering shield. It doesn't scale off max stats so you're losing out on its already low potential.

    Or you can use heroic slash. Like a lot of stamdens.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on April 29, 2019 2:17AM
    PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
  • Anti_Virus
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    What role in PvP, @ Seleval?

    I run both a PvP Warden Healer and PvP Frost Warden:

    @Alcast and @FENGRUSH have a couple of builds linked here (Freezer / Shepherd).

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-warden/?utm_source=AlcastHQ+Builds+Page&utm_medium=Warden

    I don't trust freezer because it tells you to use unstable wall of elements and crystallized slab. OP i'd give this build a pass. These are not good morphs at all when compared to their counterparts. I don't even know why he would suggest using them over their counterparts.

    Being able to read is key

    3ad6c841bd5777ef2ec36e877510d833.png

    Yes. @Alcast i read that but i still don't understand why you would suggest it when it does such poxy damage this update. Its NOT really strong. I cannot fathom how it is considered over major heroism. It is currently less than half of a spammable. Next patch I'd say it's perfectly fine as an option.

    For unstable wall, I'm really confused. The power in wall of elements is in it's snare and its much easier to hit with a bigger radius. 2 extra seconds is very helpful too.

    In the end your builds are your builds. But i wouldn't recommend this specific one to anyone (this patch).

    On my stamden I run crystallized slab, the minor maim proc is useful to me.


    You're going to get more benefit and use out of a frost damage enchantment and swapping this to shimmering shield. It doesn't scale off max stats so you're losing out on its already low potential.

    Or you can use heroic slash. Like a lot of stamdens.

    True, it depends but yeah shimmering is alot better
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