Major Sorcery/Brutality on Grim Focus?

Ardicer

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

Greek_Hellspawn

Totally agree

Solariken

Yeah good idea

Ankael07

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

They mentioned in ESO live that each light attack will give you 3% damage resistance (up to 5 stacks). Not sure aboout the cooldown or if recasting drops the buff

susmitds

The heal needs to be more reliable.

Ardicer

Ankael07 wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

They mentioned in ESO live that each light attack will give you 3% damage resistance (up to 5 stacks). Not sure aboout the cooldown or if recasting drops the buff

That sounds stupid and unfit for the class to be fair. But again, these devs are up to anything.

Iskiab

Ankael07 wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

They mentioned in ESO live that each light attack will give you 3% damage resistance (up to 5 stacks). Not sure aboout the cooldown or if recasting drops the buff

It would be OP yea. I thought he said the same thing so I’m waiting to see it on the PTS patch notes.

That won’t stop NBs from complaining though.

/pulls up pants and goes into lecturing old timer voice

I remember rogue ganking used to be about starting a battle with a big advantage. Most Stamblades seem to want to sacrifice all their defense for a little bit of offense. Is it pvp if it’s over in a couple seconds? L2Rogue if all you want is a class that can kill a noob without them fighting back. I think a lot of Stamblades are scared about losing damage because they’ll have to learn how to pvp. If you can only kill someone if they’re stun locked it’s more like player vs build than player vs player

/end lecture

Ankael07

Ardicer wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

They mentioned in ESO live that each light attack will give you 3% damage resistance (up to 5 stacks). Not sure aboout the cooldown or if recasting drops the buff

That sounds stupid and unfit for the class to be fair. But again, these devs are up to anything.

How is it stupid or unfit? Dont you NBs complain about having to rely too much on cloak? I swear you people are never happy with anything

Deathlord92

Major sorcery on merciless hell yeah completely agree and minor intellect would be perfect. As for relentless it should keep minor endurance but major brutality no it’s a waste as everyone including myself will use rally

Ardicer

Ankael07 wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

They mentioned in ESO live that each light attack will give you 3% damage resistance (up to 5 stacks). Not sure aboout the cooldown or if recasting drops the buff

That sounds stupid and unfit for the class to be fair. But again, these devs are up to anything.

How is it stupid or unfit? Dont you NBs complain about having to rely too much on cloak? I swear you people are never happy with anything

Because they're nightblades...

Toc de Malsvi

I would start playing my NB all the time.

Czekoludek

Shouldn't minor force be better? Not so powerful yet make our rotation a little easier (no need to cast trap)

Vapirko

I don’t think so. NB already has a source of that so I doubt they’re likely to add another as this pass has been in the aim of removing doubled up buffs/debuffs.

Heimpai

Vapirko wrote: »

I don’t think so. NB already has a source of that so I doubt they’re likely to add another as this pass has been in the aim of removing doubled up buffs/debuffs.

Well in that case why not change every class that has major brutality/sorcery to be forced to hit a target for it to proc

Deathlord92

Heimpai wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

I don’t think so. NB already has a source of that so I doubt they’re likely to add another as this pass has been in the aim of removing doubled up buffs/debuffs.

Well in that case why not change every class that has major brutality/sorcery to be forced to hit a target for it to proc

Good point

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Vapirko wrote: »

I don’t think so. NB already has a source of that so I doubt they’re likely to add another as this pass has been in the aim of removing doubled up buffs/debuffs.

NB have a source of minor force? From what.

Insco851

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

I don’t think so. NB already has a source of that so I doubt they’re likely to add another as this pass has been in the aim of removing doubled up buffs/debuffs.

NB have a source of minor force? From what.

Every pvp magblade dd will be running Rat.

Insco851

Ankael07 wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

They mentioned in ESO live that each light attack will give you 3% damage resistance (up to 5 stacks). Not sure aboout the cooldown or if recasting drops the buff

Damage resistance... so stacking 3% of your actual resistances or 3% damage reduction up to 15%...

Could be good


However minor maim on fear had this 100% uptime already... so unless you are running shade, it’s not a buff that’s significant

Major sorcery woulda been infinitely better.

Higher spell dmg = better heals, Saves a skill slot, that we already don’t have (most arnt running entropy anyways) and most importantly opens up potion options because most are running spell power pots.

Narvuntien

Why though? you have potions

Heimpai

Narvuntien wrote: »

Why though? you have potions

Why does any class have it? They have pots too

Vapirko

Heimpai wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

I don’t think so. NB already has a source of that so I doubt they’re likely to add another as this pass has been in the aim of removing doubled up buffs/debuffs.

Well in that case why not change every class that has major brutality/sorcery to be forced to hit a target for it to proc

I didn’t say it was a good skill, but based on their reasoning for moving things around I don’t think they’ll do it. They’re removing buffs or debuffs from skills that overlap, so I doubt you’re going to see them add brutality or sorcery to grim focus.

Insco851

Narvuntien wrote: »

Why though? you have potions

Maybe I want to use a different potion instead of being tied to spell power pots always

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Insco851 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

I don’t think so. NB already has a source of that so I doubt they’re likely to add another as this pass has been in the aim of removing doubled up buffs/debuffs.

NB have a source of minor force? From what.

Every pvp magblade dd will be running Rat.

not a NB class skill. every mag build will be running race.

Vapirko

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

I don’t think so. NB already has a source of that so I doubt they’re likely to add another as this pass has been in the aim of removing doubled up buffs/debuffs.

NB have a source of minor force? From what.

Every pvp magblade dd will be running Rat.

not a NB class skill. every mag build will be running race.

Dude, every build will be running that skill. Stamina included. Even without the force I’d still use it over shuffle any day. Shuffle is so expensive and worthless my sustain is better using RAT.

Haojin

brutality comes from 2h or potion anyways for pre gank buff ups. if you are dw, you can even use daggers. another option is grouping up with a magdk, it will provide maj brutality-sorcery anyway.

but grouping up with people..such a lame thing to do.

SoLooney

Then I wouldnt have to run entropy or spell pots in dungeons yay

Deathlord92

I really hope at the end of all this they give magblade major sorcery on merciless and a good self heal and give surprise attack and concealed weapon something better. If we can’t have major fracture then something better then what is currently on pts because that back stab bs sucks ass nightblade deserves better.

Toc de Malsvi

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

In my response earlier I am certain my point was missed.

Major Brut/Sorc is stronger than Minor Berserk by quite a bit. With 2400 weapon damage and nothing slotted but a gold master's bow Snipe tool-tips at 5346. Adding Minor Berserk brings the tool-tip to 5774, removing Minor Berserk and adding Major Brutality brings the tool-tip to 6159.

Giving Major Brutality/Sorcery to Grim Focus would make it far more powerful than it already was.

JobooAGS

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

In my response earlier I am certain my point was missed.

Major Brut/Sorc is stronger than Minor Berserk by quite a bit. With 2400 weapon damage and nothing slotted but a gold master's bow Snipe tool-tips at 5346. Adding Minor Berserk brings the tool-tip to 5774, removing Minor Berserk and adding Major Brutality brings the tool-tip to 6159.

Giving Major Brutality/Sorcery to Grim Focus would make it far more powerful than it already was.

That is assuming the original build had no source of major brutality to begin with

Insco851

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

In my response earlier I am certain my point was missed.

Major Brut/Sorc is stronger than Minor Berserk by quite a bit. With 2400 weapon damage and nothing slotted but a gold master's bow Snipe tool-tips at 5346. Adding Minor Berserk brings the tool-tip to 5774, removing Minor Berserk and adding Major Brutality brings the tool-tip to 6159.

Giving Major Brutality/Sorcery to Grim Focus would make it far more powerful than it already was.

MnB tied to spellpower pots. This would really only affect their ability to slot a potion with some health return on it instead. Which is exactly what is needed

Toc de Malsvi

JobooAGS wrote: »

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Ardicer wrote: »

With the minor berserk taken in 5.0.0 and it's traveling time being reduced to 250ms from 450ms in 5.0.1 it might just need a major sorcery or major brutality buff to their respective morph on the initial cast as it gives practically nothing on cast.
This would open a skillslot for the nightblade aswell!

Thoughts?

In my response earlier I am certain my point was missed.

Major Brut/Sorc is stronger than Minor Berserk by quite a bit. With 2400 weapon damage and nothing slotted but a gold master's bow Snipe tool-tips at 5346. Adding Minor Berserk brings the tool-tip to 5774, removing Minor Berserk and adding Major Brutality brings the tool-tip to 6159.

Giving Major Brutality/Sorcery to Grim Focus would make it far more powerful than it already was.

That is assuming the original build had no source of major brutality to begin with

That's true. It add's a lot more to the skill, but if you already had it from somewhere else it only adds build options.