Stam DK and Tank fest (bleed builds, cyros crest, etc)

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

Hi Zos,

Have you realized that PVP is kind of broken and boring at the moment, or do you never actually send any people from your company yourselves?

Stam DK's have never been so happy and they have the right to be as the wheel turns, we know all know it by now, but seriously players are literally just taunting others with the psijic deep thoughts as +-10 players go to town on them to no avail).

This set for example is a little too crazy honestly:

LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

(2 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(5 items) After successfully blocking, heal for 8000 Health.
This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.

You speak of balance and trying to maintain it, we can see it in PVE 'perhaps', but PVP is really the child left in the basement who you feed fish heads too.

Thank you

Jjitsuboy98

What?

ArenGesus

Who cares if you can't kill a tank? It's like trying to kill a rock - you might pulverize it eventually, but it was never going to do anything to you, so what's the point?

IMO there are only two annoyances with regard to tanks:

1. When they are the last one in a keep that you've recently taken with a small group - if you leave him there he'll rez the dead and they'll retake it from the inside once you're gone. But oh well, war is hell.

2. If you hit him just once and can't kill him, you will be stuck in combat for basically eternity. Horse simulator now becomes marathon simulator. This one actually really sucks.

But I don't really care if there are meat shields running around with wet noodles. They're totally harmless. I honestly don't know why they do it - it just seems like it would be boring.

SilverPaws

If 10 ppl can't kill one player then issue is somewhere else.

TriangularChicken

Go play stam DK in no CP with Cyrodiil's Crest equipped, write down how long you can tank 3, 5, 10 players.

GeorgeBlack

The problem isnt stamDK.
The problem are sets that reward survivability with insane Damage bonus such as Fury, Veiled Heritance, 7th Legion, Ravager.
So basically the problem lies with armor sets.
The second problem is that SnB which should be all about survivability offers:
Gap closer with CC (mobility)
CC with major defile
Instant non channeling damaging ability with ulty gen (maim fits the SnB playstyle)
Instant non channeling damaging ability that decreases the targets defences
Snares (they fit SnB playstyle)
Bash dmg addition with animation cancelling (more than other weapons)
All in all, SnB is a very aggressive weapon that also offers top survivability, unlike Resto Staff that only provides survivability.

StamDK is using only Leap, Igneous Shields and Venomous Claw. All the other abilities are accessible to everyone

Theignson

All these people criticizing sets. Where to start.

1) Cyrodil's Crest: the tooltip heal is decreased 50% in Cyrodil. If you are permablocking with it, you rapidly run out of stamina and die. A 4k tooltip heal isn't that great; it is every 5 seconds , so less that 1k per second. This compared to receiving damage of, on average, 1-3k dps per player (hugely less than in PvE); if 3 people attacking you you will die quickly if you are simply trying to permablock. So, CCrest alone is not going to save your DK. There are other sets better suited to a useless permablock tank.

2) The perpetual complaints about Fury on Stam DK. Look at how it works. You only get a stack when you take critical damage. A stam DK wearing this is brawling and taking tons of damage with limited mobility. To get the max # of stacks (25) you have to have taken 25 critical hits in the last 5 seconds or so! This is a huge amount of damage; there has to be some risk reward for getting punished like that. Again if you are just standing around and don't know how to play, you will drop dead long before Fury helps you.

ZarkingFrued

Just came from a nerf sorc thread, now I'm just confused. Is it sorc or Stam DK that's OP? Or just whichever classes you dont play? Its tank dude. Why are you attacking it?

Tonnopesce

How it works for me usually.
" oh look a player to kill"
proceed to use the bread and butter combo that kills pretty much everyone.
"sheet he is a tank"
turn back and go somewhere else while he kite 10 players and manage to kill the CP 20 among them (and no one else).

Tanks are not really an issue unless you have to 1v1 in a resource, Cyrodiil is big enought to not have to fight a single tank, ever.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

It was a heart felt rant guys ^^

The CP campaign is lagging like a witches ***, people are running around with resist cap everywhere.

And for all stam dk's, no beef it's not only you

But think of it this way...zergs placing ground AOE all over the place -> add to that over heals and tanky setups...think of the lag we could be spared if they weren't so resistant.

Davadin

this works pretty well if ur a DK, fighting a tank DK: all the DoTs, Petrify morph, burst. repeat. that skill is nice considering it cant be blocked or dodged.