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Buff magblade survivability
Deathlord92
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Please can you give magblade a strong self heal a blood shield and major sorcery on merciless instead of the heal and maybe change concealed weapon to something more useful 🙏
Edited by Deathlord92 on April 25, 2019 10:22PM 0
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Make the Swallow Soul and Funnel Heal a set amount based off stats and not vary by the target you’re hitting.
Make Dark Cloak a self burst heal with trailing hot.Edited by Iskiab on April 25, 2019 11:13PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Make the red twisty path heal and do damage over time for all in the path like it used to.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo2 -
russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭Zos dont give an effing $hit.
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Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yet there are other Nightblade players that say the class already has the best burst heals in the game ...2 -
Wa2p✭✭✭^ I'd say they have a great burst heal, for other people. while damaging the caster. Not really helpful in the survivability. I am guessing this is mostly a PVP thing, so I have little to contribute to ideas for PVP magblades. Other than, let bomb blades live their best life once more. I quite enjoyed the complications on youtube.1 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭fTaleof2Cities wrote: »Yet there are other Nightblade players that say the class already has the best burst heals in the game ...
They/I do. I’m a magblade healer, its indisputable that magblades have the best burst heal. It’s healthy offering so it can only be used to heal someone else though. Takes a while to get used to and you have to spec a little differently to use it is all.
Since the heal costs health you could try to use it as a magblade dps, but I wouldn’t recommend it outside a premade. You could use it to cover a healer while they’re stun locked.
If you solo queue no way, too many people running vampire and mist form. Plus if a team mate is too squishy it probably isn’t worth using it on them, they’ll die anyways and you’re wasting your health.
If you mean ultimate then Soul Siphon yea. Easily better than the resto ult, I have no idea why a NB would ever use the resto ult when you have Soul Siphon, but most do.Edited by Iskiab on April 26, 2019 2:21AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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LordTareq✭✭✭✭✭A sadistic madman came up with the idea to give a class without decent selfhealing a superb burst heal that only work on others and puts an unavoidable stacking dot on himself.
I experimented with it but died more often from my own healing than from enemy players.6 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
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Yea, I’ve done that too. Especially with a really squishy team mate. I can’t help but try to keep them up when they’re being focused.
Using health as a resource just means you have to buff your health more. The stronger the heal the stronger the dot. The dot amount can’t be mitigated, so you need a health cushion to use it but also enough mitigation so you can’t be bursted.
I ‘think’ the concept was supposed to be you attack for swallow soul/funnel health to load yourself up on hots, then use healthy offering as a heal because otherwise those self hots are just overhealing.
In practice swallow soul is garbage in pvp. Low damage, healing amount tied to how much damage you do, and you can’t spec for pen as a healer. The hot on swallow soul is a lower heal amount then mutagen, half the duration and no secondary effect. It’s only good in pve because mobs are reduced to 0 mitigation.
Some people don’t hate Swallow Soul, but I’ve found rapid regen, combat prayer and refreshing path good enough to heal myself. Then if Soul Siphon is up I can play aggressively and use abilities that actually do damage like kill stealing with impale, blockade, etc...
To use damage abilities I have to sacrifice defense/utility but I’m fine with that in BGs. Pure healing scores suck so prefer throwing out some damage too, I usually end up with as many killing blows as deaths. If I had to guess 4 KBs and 4 Deaths per match, 3K-4K scores.Edited by Iskiab on April 26, 2019 3:20AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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kaithuzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.Edited by kaithuzar on April 26, 2019 6:56AMMember of:
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Harness or Dampen magicka still exist. What’s up with all the paramount NB complaints lately?Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Harness or Dampen magicka still exist. What’s up with all the paramount NB complaints lately?
Dampen isn’t a heal. NB doesn’t have an equivalent to Matriarch or Dark Conversion and Dark Cloak only kinda works on tank builds.
The class lacks in both burst heals and HoTs when you play a standard (non-tank, non-healer) build. All its other heals are tied to damage done which is a terrible mechanic for PvP.EU | PC | AD5 -
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Yup completely agree I think they should do something with one of the malevolent offering morphsHarness or Dampen magicka still exist. What’s up with all the paramount NB complaints lately?
Dampen isn’t a heal. NB doesn’t have an equivalent to Matriarch or Dark Conversion and Dark Cloak only kinda works on tank builds.
The class lacks in both burst heals and HoTs when you play a standard (non-tank, non-healer) build. All its other heals are tied to damage done which is a terrible mechanic for PvP.
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✭✭✭✭✭Please can you give magblade a strong self heal a blood shield
@Maulkin
I was referring to the OP and the bolded part - I thought the OP wants a class shield. My bad if I misunderstood.
As for magNB survivability I’d like to see first how the better mobility with Race against Time and Cloak plays out before buffing other aspects of the defensive toolkit. And some adjustments to the Caluurion magNB ganks would be nice too.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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I’m not a ganker I like to play solo and 1vx on magblade it’s incredibly hard almost impossible if your against 3 templar or anyone with aoe spam that knows what there doingPlease can you give magblade a strong self heal a blood shield
@Maulkin
I was referring to the OP and the bolded part - I thought the OP wants a class shield. My bad if I misunderstood.
As for magNB survivability I’d like to see first how the better mobility with Race against Time and Cloak plays out before buffing other aspects of the defensive toolkit. And some adjustments to the Caluurion magNB ganks would be nice too.
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✭✭✭✭✭I wouldn't mind if magblade would get something nice at last. Maybe make Merciless Resolve to work like Rally, dot heal on activation and burst heal based on time it was active.Say no to Toxic Casuals!
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✭✭✭Please can you give magblade a strong self heal a blood shield
@Maulkin
I was referring to the OP and the bolded part - I thought the OP wants a class shield. My bad if I misunderstood.
As for magNB survivability I’d like to see first how the better mobility with Race against Time and Cloak plays out before buffing other aspects of the defensive toolkit. And some adjustments to the Caluurion magNB ganks would be nice too.
Yeah I don't see the point of the blood shield either. His argument is that other classes have access to class shields (Sorc aside ofc) like DK's Igneous and Templar's Sun Shield. But those are both niche and useless to most builds.
Your point about RAT and Cloak is off though (I assume you mean Shadowy Disguise here). Those are escape tools and while the ability to escape has been buffed considerably, the ability to get heals when choosing to sit and fight is simply not there. My choice to mention Matriach/Dark Conversion rather than Bolt Escape was showing that intent.
Imagine a Sorc without those skills and me telling you "let's see how strong survivability is with Bolt Escape and RAT before we give the class heals". That's essentially what you're telling me right now. Survivability would only be strong if you're running away but not so much if you're fighting.
EDIT: I don't care about Caluurion ganks anyway, I wouldn't give two hoots if it was nerfed. I detest ganker playstyle on any class/build.
Edited by Maulkin on April 26, 2019 10:46AMEU | PC | AD1 -
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✭✭✭I wouldn't mind if magblade would get something nice at last. Maybe make Merciless Resolve to work like Rally, dot heal on activation and burst heal based on time it was active.
That's an interesting idea. I 'd prefer that to the heal that is tied to the damage done, 100 times over.
Edited by Maulkin on April 26, 2019 10:25AMEU | PC | AD2 -
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✭✭✭Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Edited by Iskiab on April 26, 2019 12:47PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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kypranb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale off of critical heals or healing done bonuses.. It seems to scale exclusively off of your base, unbuffed/non-crit tooltip.
Edited to prevent the spread of misinformation~Edited by kypranb14_ESO on April 26, 2019 9:29PM0 -
LordTareq✭✭✭✭✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale in any way, shape, or form. It is a static number. Healing 2k or healing 20k applies the same DoT. You'd better go test again.
Actually, he is correct and you are wrong. Perhaps you should follow your own advice?2 -
kypranb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale in any way, shape, or form. It is a static number. Healing 2k or healing 20k applies the same DoT. You'd better go test again.
Actually, he is correct and you are wrong. Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
Upon testing, we're both wrong. It's "scaling" but not how he described. Critical heals and healing done bonuses do nothing for the "scaling." It seems to scale exclusively on it's base tooltip before any buffs.
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✭✭✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale in any way, shape, or form. It is a static number. Healing 2k or healing 20k applies the same DoT. You'd better go test again.
Actually, he is correct and you are wrong. Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
Upon testing, we're both wrong. It's "scaling" but not how he described. Critical heals and healing done bonuses do nothing for the "scaling." It seems to scale exclusively on it's base tooltip before any buffs.
I’ll double check it when I log on. I’m fairly sure I’m correct, for some reason people always challenge this, and don’t test it themselves. I think it’s because the tooltip doesn’t show the dot amount.
Btw, tooltips change with +healing buffs.
Only thing I’m not sure about is how it interacts with targets having +healing received and vitality. I’m pretty sure those have no effect but haven’t tested it.Edited by Iskiab on April 26, 2019 9:55PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale in any way, shape, or form. It is a static number. Healing 2k or healing 20k applies the same DoT. You'd better go test again.
Actually, he is correct and you are wrong. Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
Upon testing, we're both wrong. It's "scaling" but not how he described. Critical heals and healing done bonuses do nothing for the "scaling." It seems to scale exclusively on it's base tooltip before any buffs.
Oh you're right. I just checked in a guild hall:
378 - ticks no crit
392 - ticks with crit
378 - with minor mending
378 - with major mendingLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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LordTareq✭✭✭✭✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale in any way, shape, or form. It is a static number. Healing 2k or healing 20k applies the same DoT. You'd better go test again.
Actually, he is correct and you are wrong. Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
Upon testing, we're both wrong. It's "scaling" but not how he described. Critical heals and healing done bonuses do nothing for the "scaling." It seems to scale exclusively on it's base tooltip before any buffs.
I'm not sure about major mending, but temporary buffs that increase spellpower, such as being cloaked, do increase the dot damage you take.Edited by LordTareq on April 26, 2019 10:10PM0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale in any way, shape, or form. It is a static number. Healing 2k or healing 20k applies the same DoT. You'd better go test again.
Actually, he is correct and you are wrong. Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
Upon testing, we're both wrong. It's "scaling" but not how he described. Critical heals and healing done bonuses do nothing for the "scaling." It seems to scale exclusively on it's base tooltip before any buffs.
I'm not sure about major mending, but temporary buffs that increase spellpower, such as being cloaked, do increase the dot damage you take.
Oh damn, I just triple checked.
Crits don't effect the size of the dot, I was using shadowy disguise to auto-crit when I was testing. Didn't think that master assassin would effect the results.
So it is purely magicka and spell power, what about item pieces with +healing? I’ll have to play with the mundus stone to check.
That’s interesting, it means that as a magblade healer stack +healing instead of sp/magicka. Usually I try not to too much because of diminishing returns.Edited by Iskiab on April 26, 2019 10:20PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
kypranb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale in any way, shape, or form. It is a static number. Healing 2k or healing 20k applies the same DoT. You'd better go test again.
Actually, he is correct and you are wrong. Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
Upon testing, we're both wrong. It's "scaling" but not how he described. Critical heals and healing done bonuses do nothing for the "scaling." It seems to scale exclusively on it's base tooltip before any buffs.
I'm not sure about major mending, but temporary buffs that increase spellpower, such as being cloaked, do increase the dot damage you take.
Oh damn, I just triple checked.
Crits don't effect the size of the dot, I was using shadowy disguise to auto-crit when I was testing. Didn't think that master assassin would effect the results.
So it is purely magicka and spell power, what about item pieces with +healing? I’ll have to play with the mundus stone to check.
That’s interesting, it means that as a magblade healer stack +healing instead of sp/magicka. Usually I try not to too much because of diminishing returns.
Shadowy Disguise no longer auto-crits healing either, that was removed a while ago. Glad we both learned something from this though.
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✭kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »kypranb14_ESO wrote: »Does anything change if someone has the guard skill on you & you use healthy offering? Can the damage be mitigated/sent to the other player?
Could be interesting 2 heavy armor nightblades trolling.
@kaithuzar
Nope, no way to mitigate it at all. I’ve tried everything.
Most annoying part of the skill is the self dot is directly tied to how strong your heal is. So if you resto heavy attack for major mending or crit it’s a stronger self dot.
The result of that is you sometimes don’t want to buff your healing too much. As you buff the healing you need more health, plus mitigation for pvp.
Here’s my BG spec if you’re interested. I’m going for damage and healing, so I’m not really tanky healer for BGs. I just said YOLO and will take being squishier in the hopes I’ll be a better player when I want to be tanky:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=134331
Fake news.
The DoT applied to yourself doesn't scale in any way, shape, or form. It is a static number. Healing 2k or healing 20k applies the same DoT. You'd better go test again.
Actually, he is correct and you are wrong. Perhaps you should follow your own advice?
Upon testing, we're both wrong. It's "scaling" but not how he described. Critical heals and healing done bonuses do nothing for the "scaling." It seems to scale exclusively on it's base tooltip before any buffs.
I'm not sure about major mending, but temporary buffs that increase spellpower, such as being cloaked, do increase the dot damage you take.
Oh damn, I just triple checked.
Crits don't effect the size of the dot, I was using shadowy disguise to auto-crit when I was testing. Didn't think that master assassin would effect the results.
So it is purely magicka and spell power, what about item pieces with +healing? I’ll have to play with the mundus stone to check.
That’s interesting, it means that as a magblade healer stack +healing instead of sp/magicka. Usually I try not to too much because of diminishing returns.
Shadowy Disguise no longer auto-crits healing either, that was removed a while ago. Glad we both learned something from this though.
I haven’t tested but I was under the impression the first tick was still gonna crit but not a whole hot like vigor. I know it was broken af before.0