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Transgender and Allies only Guild Gets WORLD RECORD!!!!
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Svenja✭✭✭✭✭
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Grats on the score!!
And on the successful bait, too!PC | EU
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ZOS_RogerJ✭✭✭✭Greetings! Just a friendly reminder to keep the thread on-topic, constructive and civil.The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited - ZeniMax Online Studios
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red_emu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »Greetings! Just a friendly reminder to keep the thread on-topic, constructive and civil.
Problem is, none of us is sure what the topic is about???PC - EU:
Falathren Noctis - AD MagNecro
Falathren - AD StamSorc
Falathren Eryndaer - AD StamDen
Falathren Irimion - AD MagPlar
Talagan Falathren - AD StamDK
Falathren Infernis - AD MagDK
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Jayman1000✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »Greetings! Just a friendly reminder to keep the thread on-topic, constructive and civil.
Problem is, none of us is sure what the topic is about???
Judging from the title and OP it's about transgenders, mental illness and world beating records in ESO.3 -
lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial and getting a world record, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care because its irrelevant to your success.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - an incredibly negative notion. Good intentions that actually stink at the core.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.Edited by lagrue on April 26, 2019 1:52PM"You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"11 -
Jayman1000✭✭✭✭✭
✭Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - and incredibly negative notion.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.
Well misunderstandings are the root of all evil. Maybe "allies" means something else?
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Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial and getting a world record, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care because its irrelevant to your success.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - an incredibly negative notion. Good intentions that actually stink at the core.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.
The bold is myopic and wrong. People are congratulating others who are nominally to never acknowledged in our hobby (gaming). We used to do this with “gamer girls” before they became mainstream on Twitch. It’s not an unwitting pardon for said persons being substandard. That you would assume otherwise actually attaches a value judgment to your words.
I agree that the OP’s post was hamfisted in its execution, but the premise is sound.1 -
DjMuscleboy02✭✭✭✭✭Gratz MC!Brodor - PC NA - ESO's only pure bodybuilding guild
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DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Since my first post is somehow missing, grats on the record!
OP, are you saying transgendered people have a mental disorder?The guild going as Mentally Challenged beats Hodor and gets the world record in veteran Halls of Fabrication!!!
Showing that gamers with dealing with serious mental illness also can compete with the best in the world. Doing the entire trial including HM in 23 minutes and 22 seconds!!
Congrats to everyone in the group whom have been working on this for months!!!!
Some may. Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, but not all trans people have gender dysphoria. The dysphoria itself is the disorder, not the trans part.2 -
Azyle1✭✭✭✭✭Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial and getting a world record, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care because its irrelevant to your success.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - an incredibly negative notion. Good intentions that actually stink at the core.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.
I agree with you.1 -
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✭Confused are the players transgender or are the characters in game transgender (guys in dresses etc)?
- Congrats on accomplishing your accomplishment!
.Edited by Kalik_Gold on April 26, 2019 2:39PMMain: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
{time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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Casul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial and getting a world record, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care because its irrelevant to your success.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - an incredibly negative notion. Good intentions that actually stink at the core.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.
I agree with you.
Now I’m confused. So do they have physical handicaps/mental handicaps or is it just that they are apart of the transgender community?? I read that someone was playing with 1 hand and that sounded impressive?PvP needs more love.1 -
ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial and getting a world record, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care because its irrelevant to your success.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - an incredibly negative notion. Good intentions that actually stink at the core.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.
The bold is myopic and wrong. People are congratulating others who are nominally to never acknowledged in our hobby (gaming). We used to do this with “gamer girls” before they became mainstream on Twitch. It’s not an unwitting pardon for said persons being substandard. That you would assume otherwise actually attaches a value judgment to your words.
I agree that the OP’s post was hamfisted in its execution, but the premise is sound.
I don't get it. Why should they be acknowledged in our hobby? White people aren't specifically glorified because they have fast thumbs, nor are black people or jews descended from ww2 camp survivors. What about this particular group makes their state of being so fundamentally different to the degree that congrats are necessary for their achievement under the circumstances? I say congrats for the achievement. And nothing else. There is nothing else special and no reason to call it out. I think the base assumption should be that we're all equal and equally capable of achievement - this post seems to suggest that isn't the case but instead that it's very wild to imagine a transgender with fast thumbs, which is ridiculous and discriminatory at the core.2 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial and getting a world record, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care because its irrelevant to your success.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - an incredibly negative notion. Good intentions that actually stink at the core.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.
The bold is myopic and wrong. People are congratulating others who are nominally to never acknowledged in our hobby (gaming). We used to do this with “gamer girls” before they became mainstream on Twitch. It’s not an unwitting pardon for said persons being substandard. That you would assume otherwise actually attaches a value judgment to your words.
I agree that the OP’s post was hamfisted in its execution, but the premise is sound.
I don't get it. Why should they be acknowledged in our hobby? White people aren't specifically glorified because they have fast thumbs, nor are black people or jews descended from ww2 camp survivors. What about this particular group makes their state of being so fundamentally different to the degree that congrats are necessary for their achievement under the circumstances? I say congrats for the achievement. And nothing else. There is nothing else special and no reason to call it out. I think the base assumption should be that we're all equal and equally capable of achievement - this post seems to suggest that isn't the case but instead that it's very wild to imagine a transgender with fast thumbs, which is ridiculous and discriminatory at the core.
You know, in a male dominated environment, sometimes gays or transgendered people get treated like sissies or less than equals. It probably just felt good to say, hey, our small demographic did a thing!Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!4 -
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OP, are you saying transgendered people have a mental disorder?The guild going as Mentally Challenged beats Hodor and gets the world record in veteran Halls of Fabrication!!!
Showing that gamers with dealing with serious mental illness also can compete with the best in the world. Doing the entire trial including HM in 23 minutes and 22 seconds!!
Congrats to everyone in the group whom have been working on this for months!!!!
Gender dysphoria is legit classified as a mental illness..3 -
Billdor✭✭✭✭ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »Greetings! Just a friendly reminder to keep the thread on-topic, constructive and civil.
Problem is, none of us is sure what the topic is about???
Its because it is touching a very sensative topic which the majority of the Human Races disageers on and Science has yet to prove that it is true.
Other than that, welcome to the General Forums where the ZoS Moderators hand pick stuff out and put a warning on your account.2 -
Myrkgrav✭✭✭✭I love that every time a thread about trans people comes up on this forum it devolves into people being psychology "experts."Morty | ♂ | @morti_macabre | PC NA | EST
Member of Knights of the Sanguine, Sheogorath's Mortals & Sword Coast Traders5 -
ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial and getting a world record, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care because its irrelevant to your success.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - an incredibly negative notion. Good intentions that actually stink at the core.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.
The bold is myopic and wrong. People are congratulating others who are nominally to never acknowledged in our hobby (gaming). We used to do this with “gamer girls” before they became mainstream on Twitch. It’s not an unwitting pardon for said persons being substandard. That you would assume otherwise actually attaches a value judgment to your words.
I agree that the OP’s post was hamfisted in its execution, but the premise is sound.
I don't get it. Why should they be acknowledged in our hobby? White people aren't specifically glorified because they have fast thumbs, nor are black people or jews descended from ww2 camp survivors. What about this particular group makes their state of being so fundamentally different to the degree that congrats are necessary for their achievement under the circumstances? I say congrats for the achievement. And nothing else. There is nothing else special and no reason to call it out. I think the base assumption should be that we're all equal and equally capable of achievement - this post seems to suggest that isn't the case but instead that it's very wild to imagine a transgender with fast thumbs, which is ridiculous and discriminatory at the core.
You know, in a male dominated environment, sometimes gays or transgendered people get treated like sissies or less than equals. It probably just felt good to say, hey, our small demographic did a thing!
But we play online - how in the world would I even know that you're in a small demographic unless you tell me? We're not going on a date, we're killing a dungeon boss. I'm not against other legitimate celebrations for transgendered - like I'm sure for some of you it's a big deal just to walk into a public place without stares, and when we overcome that as society then celebration is due. But not here - there isn't anything in the condition to keep you from competing at the same level as everybody else.
But I did hear that one of the players is missing a hand - which is freaking incredible. That should be in the post title because it's just amazing that somebody with an actual physical ailment that legitimately would make this achievement far more difficult has done this. But gender? I just don't see it.
Also, I don't really care one way or the other - no ill will. But I do feel like it detracts from the gender identity cause when it's inserted into places where it really doesn't belong. It's just giving detractors the ability to scoff at it.3 -
reprosal✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »Greetings! Just a friendly reminder to keep the thread on-topic, constructive and civil.
Problem is, none of us is sure what the topic is about???
Its because it is touching a very sensative topic which the majority of the Human Races disageers on and Science has yet to prove that it is true.
Other than that, welcome to the General Forums where the ZoS Moderators hand pick stuff out and put a warning on your account.
Not sure what science hasn’t proven..?
Either way. Grats on the record.2 -
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✭✭Considering Trans people and "allies" are just as capable of playing video games as everybody else, I'm not going to join into the crowd of people congratulating you for that aspect. Good job beating the trial and getting a world record, but your identity has nothing to do with it and nobody should care because its irrelevant to your success.
I'm not sure you stuck those things in for some "social justice points" but you could have made this entire thread without mentioning the utterly irrelevant gender status of the people involved. The fact people are congratulating that only means they think trans people are somehow less capable to begin with - an incredibly negative notion. Good intentions that actually stink at the core.
Adding "allies" REALLY makes it even more pointless to mention, because for all we know that's just a group of 12 straight male allies lol..... considering allies can be anybody of any demographic.
I think we could have all focused on your achievement had you not junked it up with completely irrelevant information.
thank you...for saying exactly what was in my mind so I didn't had too cuz im not sure I could had put it this nicely...and would probably get me banned from the forums again...GG1 -
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