REMOVE DESERTER PENALTY FROM BG

Sp1dHQ

I am tired of bugged BGs, when one team can't get more than 2 players. Let us leave from bugged BGs without getting penalized, If you are not competent enough to fix this issue. There should be no penalty while leaving during "Waiting for players..." stage.

sharquez

Agreed. This should have been fixed a long time ago.

pod88kk

Just complete the bg with what you have

Feanor

pod88kk wrote: »

Just complete the bg with what you have

How do you do that if it never starts because it’s in an infinite “waiting for players” loop? Had that more than once. And ofc you get the penalty too then.

todokete

Feanor wrote: »

pod88kk wrote: »

Just complete the bg with what you have

How do you do that if it never starts because it’s in an infinite “waiting for players” loop? Had that more than once. And ofc you get the penalty too then.

That never happened to me. Are you sure it's not addons?

AWinterWolf

How can addons cause that?

Undefwun

todokete wrote: »

That never happened to me. Are you sure it's not addons?

Nope it's a real thing... one team never gets more than 2 team members, and round won't start. Seen it often enough.
It's like the counter for the team thinks it's full, because if 1 of the 2 leaves.. they get replaced, but never get a 3rd.

One day I had 3 of my 5 pvp tons on debuff, because they got caught in bugged lobbies one after the other.. maybe even the same one.

On a side note, IMO ppl that leave BGs prematurely on purpose should get a 12 hour account wide BG ban. I don't care what your selfish reasons are for bailing.

sharquez

The battlegrounds never start so you can't wait for it you have to leave and take the penalty. Everyone who queued up has their time wasted. This has happened to me more than once. Luckily i have multiple characters so its not the worst thing in the world but it still sucks and needs to be fixed.

Linaleah

I don't pvp nearly as much as some people here and i HAVE experienced this bug more then once. it is VERY annoying and has been brought up before on these forums. more then once. at the very least, they need to implement something that just disbands the battleground if it doesn't form within, lets say - 5 minutes.

e-rwan

Or just dont give deserter penalty to players who leave before the counter start.

Vigawatt

Linaleah wrote: »

at the very least, they need to implement something that just disbands the battleground if it doesn't form within, lets say - 5 minutes.

I like that idea. Does not penalize players when match is bugged, but still penalizes players who leave match on purpose.

Schokolade

Vigawatt wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

at the very least, they need to implement something that just disbands the battleground if it doesn't form within, lets say - 5 minutes.

I like that idea. Does not penalize players when match is bugged, but still penalizes players who leave match on purpose.

Agree. Automatic disbands if it doesn't form in X minutes.



You CAN'T remove penalty, and the reason is very simple, even a child can understand it.
A lot of people will leave the losing team (with a simple wifi on-off).
Also there are a lot of gamer with the horrible philosophy of leaving people with not enough cp (even if means nothing in btg).

Sp1dHQ

Schokolade wrote: »

Vigawatt wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

at the very least, they need to implement something that just disbands the battleground if it doesn't form within, lets say - 5 minutes.

I like that idea. Does not penalize players when match is bugged, but still penalizes players who leave match on purpose.

Agree. DAutomatic disbands if it doesn't form in X minuts.



You CAN'T remove penalty, and the reason is very simple, even a child can understand it.
A lot of people will leave the losing team (with a simple wifi on-off).
Also there are a lot of gamer with the horrible philosophy of leaving people with not enough cp (even if means nothing in btg).

Even a child can understand that removal of penalty was proposed only prior to match actual start...
When the timer is on there should be a penalty. Although auto disband is even better.

Sp1dHQ

jesus, straigh after stucking in a bugged BG (this was the game that pushed me to make this topic) I was kicked from BG right after the game has started:D This game is hillarious.

Schokolade

Sp1dHQ wrote: »

Schokolade wrote: »

Vigawatt wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

at the very least, they need to implement something that just disbands the battleground if it doesn't form within, lets say - 5 minutes.

I like that idea. Does not penalize players when match is bugged, but still penalizes players who leave match on purpose.

Agree. DAutomatic disbands if it doesn't form in X minuts.



You CAN'T remove penalty, and the reason is very simple, even a child can understand it.
A lot of people will leave the losing team (with a simple wifi on-off).
Also there are a lot of gamer with the horrible philosophy of leaving people with not enough cp (even if means nothing in btg).

Even a child can understand that removal of penalty was proposed only prior to match actual start...
When the timer is on there should be a penalty. Although auto disband is even better.

Yep, my fault, I miss the: "There should be no penalty while leaving during "Waiting for players..." stage."

Sorry, too tired

Anyway nice idea

NordSwordnBoard

Who wants to play BGs? 4v4v4 PvP Arena!

We do!

Who wants to play a 2v3v4 for a few minutes, then have it randomly change team numbers until you might get a full 12?

What? That's not what you said this would be... I paid for 4v4v4

Who wants to get a 15min deserter penalty as a reward for trying to play a broken part of the game despite its flaws?

Some of us will still put up with that, even though we're paying the price for your mistake

Can the combination of system failure, along with all the existing player created drama (people who harass their team or don't contribute) cause regular players to get burnt out? Could this burnout lead to players misdirecting anger at each other instead of the root cause?

Katastrophia

I received a deserter penalty when I loaded in and was stuck below the platform waiting on the match to start. Tried the get me unstuck and that made it worse, and tried to do the unstuck again and that has a timer on it as well. It finally kicked me for not participating. So I had to wait 17 minutes to play again. I saw a player get knocked into the graphics and he was there the rest of the match. I tried to kill him so he could get unstuck, but the pillar he was stuck in was actually protecting him. That one was kind of funny but I know it wasn’t to them. Also you get people that come in there and hide, not helping at all and they don’t get kicked. I’ve also played with only 2 other team members the whole match when the other 2 teams had 4. And this is Xbox NA. Not whining about it. It’s seriously flawed. I understand a penalty for leaving if someone leaves because they get a crap team. But that’s the way it goes if you’re not in a preformed group. But to get a penalty at no fault of your own is bad. The debuff seems to stay on you sometimes until you log out and back in. They also need to look at other abilities since they suppress some and not others. Wish they would work on things that need fixed rather than keep throwing out new content that adds more problems.

MJallday

Simple coding change - don’t allow round start (porting in) until all 12 have accepted

jcm2606

Katastrophia wrote: »

I received a deserter penalty when I loaded in and was stuck below the platform waiting on the match to start. Tried the get me unstuck and that made it worse, and tried to do the unstuck again and that has a timer on it as well. It finally kicked me for not participating. So I had to wait 17 minutes to play again. I saw a player get knocked into the graphics and he was there the rest of the match. I tried to kill him so he could get unstuck, but the pillar he was stuck in was actually protecting him. That one was kind of funny but I know it wasn’t to them. Also you get people that come in there and hide, not helping at all and they don’t get kicked. I’ve also played with only 2 other team members the whole match when the other 2 teams had 4. And this is Xbox NA. Not whining about it. It’s seriously flawed. I understand a penalty for leaving if someone leaves because they get a crap team. But that’s the way it goes if you’re not in a preformed group. But to get a penalty at no fault of your own is bad. The debuff seems to stay on you sometimes until you log out and back in. They also need to look at other abilities since they suppress some and not others. Wish they would work on things that need fixed rather than keep throwing out new content that adds more problems.

I almost had this happen to me a while back. Was on that one orc map with the fog, and I accidentally fell off a ledge behind a bunch of plants. Couldn't get out, didn't want to do the unstuck command as that's gotten me kicked in the past, so I resorted to PM'ing somebody on an opposing team, asking them to please kill me. They did, I finally got out.

It really is a flawed system when the game is prone to breaking like this.

Mettaricana

Heck atleast drop penalty to 5 mins so rage quitters wont get back into the same match most matches dont last the full duration anyway. Also by the time long load screen and checking mail for whatever rewards beable to requeue

Shalktonin

Sp1dHQ wrote: »

Schokolade wrote: »

Vigawatt wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

at the very least, they need to implement something that just disbands the battleground if it doesn't form within, lets say - 5 minutes.

I like that idea. Does not penalize players when match is bugged, but still penalizes players who leave match on purpose.

Agree. DAutomatic disbands if it doesn't form in X minuts.



You CAN'T remove penalty, and the reason is very simple, even a child can understand it.
A lot of people will leave the losing team (with a simple wifi on-off).
Also there are a lot of gamer with the horrible philosophy of leaving people with not enough cp (even if means nothing in btg).

Even a child can understand that removal of penalty was proposed only prior to match actual start...
When the timer is on there should be a penalty. Although auto disband is even better.

Well even i child can understand that people would exploit your proposal of not penalizing players who leave while match is forming. Better option is to disband BG after X minutes that way *** people can't be *** to other players.