Anniversary Event in Cyrodiil undoable

AlnilamE

If you just want to get boxes mostly undisturbed and you have the town quest achievement, find a map where your alliance holds at least the centre ring and just do scouting missiong.

Grab mission, run to spot, fill report, die at flag, respawn at gate, pick up next quest.

If your faction has the centre ring, those are all very quick. If they own a bit more, even more so. Faster than town dailies, which IMO are time consuming with the exception of Cheydinhal.

SoLooney

Goes into a pvp zone, gets killed by pvpers

Cries on the forums how their day is ruined

Makes a lot of sense

Either deal with it or be smarter getting your achievements and quests done

SidraWillowsky

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

That is 100% griefing.

Wiki: "A griefer or bad faith player is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game (trolling), USING ASPECTS OF THE GAME IN UNINTENDED WAYS.. A griefer derives pleasure primarily or exclusively from the act of annoying other users, and as such is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals."

You're all acting so deliberately obtuse.

MazzarattiMama

frostz417 wrote: »

Oh you play Xbox NA? I probably farmed you during this event 😂😂
Welcome to cyrodiil

You're not a very mature person are you?

MazzarattiMama

SoLooney wrote: »

Goes into a pvp zone, gets killed by pvpers

Cries on the forums how their day is ruined

Makes a lot of sense

Either deal with it or be smarter getting your achievements and quests done

Also, you not a mature person.

Vietfox

Gotta admit i was one of those guys camping Crops yesterday, not on your platform though. Onslaughted like 10 reds in a row in one of the assaults, so much fun.
That's what pvers get for making me wait 1 hour to get into cyro

Cundu_Ertur

bigelle.x3_ESO wrote: »

If everyone who's crying about PvP just formed a team, they could take over towns and quest in peace. Anyone challenging them would instantly be hit by 20 snipes and die. Their arrows would blot out the sun.

Pfff. Then the PVP'ers would fight in the shade.

xF1REFL1x

Just buy the style pages... they're super cheap now anyway. No reason to waste time in an area I have no interest in.

cheifsoap

This is called griefing and idk if griefing is against the TOS

cheifsoap

bigelle.x3_ESO wrote: »

If everyone who's crying about PvP just formed a team, they could take over towns and quest in peace. Anyone challenging them would instantly be hit by 20 snipes and die. Their arrows would blot out the sun.

Groups are spamming AOEs on the doors inside of the quest givers house, causing excessive load screens for people who enter leaving them all for easy pickins. Its a problem having quest givers inside houses. Even the most experienced pvpers can't kill Father Load Screen

SoLooney

MazzarattiMama wrote: »

SoLooney wrote: »

Goes into a pvp zone, gets killed by pvpers

Cries on the forums how their day is ruined

Makes a lot of sense

Either deal with it or be smarter getting your achievements and quests done

Also, you not a mature person.

Crying and whining on the forums is not mature either. Think you got some growing up before calling other people immature

Ryath_Waylander

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

If you really want to run your quests in peace:

Thanks for some insightful advice. With all due respect to the OP, there have been very frustrating, swear at the screen moments when I realize a new crew has suddenly rolled into town and Death is on the menu. But, I have not found it undoable. This is good, helpful advice from the other side's perspective and I will use it to continue with this week's event.

Krec

MazzarattiMama wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

Nope. Since the quests can be received and completed by a single player, it is solo. You don't need a group to do these quests. Think about it. If it wasn't for this event, any player could do them and not be harassed the way they are now. Iv'e done these quests on my main several years ago, and never had a problem completing them solo.

It isn't purel

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

That is 100% griefing.

Wiki: "A griefer or bad faith player is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game (trolling), USING ASPECTS OF THE GAME IN UNINTENDED WAYS.. A griefer derives pleasure primarily or exclusively from the act of annoying other users, and as such is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals."

You're all acting so deliberately obtuse.

actually not griefing, when it is a player v player environment. You could be out farming mats in cryo and get killed, or telvar in IC and get killed. Just because your are farming mats, telvar or completing town quests doesn't exempt you from having to fight other players. As soon as you enter Cyro you are a target, accept that and move on.

Durham

As a PVP player I demand to be put in a trail group with my currect pvp setup. When PVE events come up can we come into your groups when your doing your high end dungeons.. Keep in mind we know almost nothing about the mechanics or we forgot them..

I feel grief when I'm never let into these groups to get the motifs and gear.. I'm sad that 80%to 90% of the game is pve and that I'm not greated with open arms...

Krec

MazzarattiMama wrote: »

There are alot of pve players who want this week's pages, but can't get them in Cyrodiil. I haven't got even one Tharn page this week. Surely Zos knew this crap would happen, yet they probably sit in game, watch this happen to players and laugh. Talk about un-sports-like behavior. I was just in Sotha Xbox NA and the same two reds, among other reds, who controlled Vlas and Bruma, came to Crops to take and camp it so other reds could do their quests, but I can't do mine, anywhere. I know the gt's of the reds because I was killed by those two at Vlas and Bruma before finally making it Crops where I got to do 2 quests only. Thanks for nothing Zos.

Organize a group and take the towns back. Or use stealth to slip in and complete quests. Try the temporary servers and not the regular pvp servers. Play off peak hours. Actually do pvp missions like scout.

I for one will have a lot of trouble getting boxes week four as I have never done a trial in this game, and pugging dungeons or trials will be a major pain.

deviousthevile

I agree with the OP that it does get annoying, but the whole point of this event was not to use the dailies available in the towns, the ORIGINAL intent was to get anniversary boxes by doing the board missions, Capture XXXX Keep or XXXX Resource or kill 20 XXXX. The Fact that the towns dailies also work, was a bonus to us, but not the original goal. So agree or not, there is nothing that I can see changing or being done about it because this is just a way PvErs have a CHANCE to get the same coffers that the PvPer's do, just in a different fashion.

Ohtimbar

I've spent some time defending towns from griefers (which is what they are despite the shallow denials) but I can't make a career of it. Threads like this serve as a honey pot for my ignore list, which is sadly full. Ultimately ZOS is to blame, but they're too busy with monetization to fix the performance or defenstrate the feckless trolls. I wish they would quadruple the ignore list though.

cheifsoap

Krec wrote: »

MazzarattiMama wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

Nope. Since the quests can be received and completed by a single player, it is solo. You don't need a group to do these quests. Think about it. If it wasn't for this event, any player could do them and not be harassed the way they are now. Iv'e done these quests on my main several years ago, and never had a problem completing them solo.

It isn't purel

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

That is 100% griefing.

Wiki: "A griefer or bad faith player is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game (trolling), USING ASPECTS OF THE GAME IN UNINTENDED WAYS.. A griefer derives pleasure primarily or exclusively from the act of annoying other users, and as such is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals."

You're all acting so deliberately obtuse.

actually not griefing, when it is a player v player environment. You could be out farming mats in cryo and get killed, or telvar in IC and get killed. Just because your are farming mats, telvar or completing town quests doesn't exempt you from having to fight other players. As soon as you enter Cyro you are a target, accept that and move on.

This may be news to you but griefing only occurs in a PVP environment..so yeah.

Krec

cheifsoap wrote: »

Krec wrote: »

MazzarattiMama wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

Nope. Since the quests can be received and completed by a single player, it is solo. You don't need a group to do these quests. Think about it. If it wasn't for this event, any player could do them and not be harassed the way they are now. Iv'e done these quests on my main several years ago, and never had a problem completing them solo.

It isn't purel

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

That is 100% griefing.

Wiki: "A griefer or bad faith player is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game (trolling), USING ASPECTS OF THE GAME IN UNINTENDED WAYS.. A griefer derives pleasure primarily or exclusively from the act of annoying other users, and as such is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals."

You're all acting so deliberately obtuse.

actually not griefing, when it is a player v player environment. You could be out farming mats in cryo and get killed, or telvar in IC and get killed. Just because your are farming mats, telvar or completing town quests doesn't exempt you from having to fight other players. As soon as you enter Cyro you are a target, accept that and move on.

This may be news to you but griefing only occurs in a PVP environment..so yeah.

no as you can camp dungeons in pve

Aurielle

Osteos

cheifsoap wrote: »

Krec wrote: »

MazzarattiMama wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

Nope. Since the quests can be received and completed by a single player, it is solo. You don't need a group to do these quests. Think about it. If it wasn't for this event, any player could do them and not be harassed the way they are now. Iv'e done these quests on my main several years ago, and never had a problem completing them solo.

It isn't purel

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

That is 100% griefing.

Wiki: "A griefer or bad faith player is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game (trolling), USING ASPECTS OF THE GAME IN UNINTENDED WAYS.. A griefer derives pleasure primarily or exclusively from the act of annoying other users, and as such is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals."

You're all acting so deliberately obtuse.

actually not griefing, when it is a player v player environment. You could be out farming mats in cryo and get killed, or telvar in IC and get killed. Just because your are farming mats, telvar or completing town quests doesn't exempt you from having to fight other players. As soon as you enter Cyro you are a target, accept that and move on.

This may be news to you but griefing only occurs in a PVP environment..so yeah.

I don't know about that . A short list of griefing from these forums:

A player rushing to grab a resource node that is clearly yours because you saw it first..
Dueling in town
Having a pet out anywhere near them
Putting a cake or other collectible in front of a door or chest so people inadvertently click on it.
Killing npcs before letting everyone pick pocket them 2 times
Throwing mudballs

Mudcrabber

The new/temporary campaigns might be a little friendlier. Most towns, most days I've been able to do the dailies in peace (DC character), even surrounded by enemy players. 30-40 boxes/day.

One day I encountered a group camping indoors in Bruma, and (same day) a smaller group kept me locked in combat so I couldn't turn in a quest, so I just sat their for like 10 minutes waiting for them to get bored attacking. They didn't get bored. Otherwise you can do the dailies regardless of which faction holds the town.

Cheydinhal's been peaceful for me every day, and it has the easiest quests, though it's a long trek from DC territory. Chorrol/Weynon are nearest for me but the quests take longer.

I haven't had luck with Cropsford, always red/yellow with guards blocking quest givers. Vlastarus is similar but nearby so it often flips DC so I've completed it each day.

Wandering_Immigrant

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

PvP really is not a solo activity. Sorry for your frustration but this sounds like perfectly acceptable gameplay, not even in the griefing category.

That is 100% griefing.

Wiki: "A griefer or bad faith player is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game (trolling), USING ASPECTS OF THE GAME IN UNINTENDED WAYS.. A griefer derives pleasure primarily or exclusively from the act of annoying other users, and as such is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals."

You're all acting so deliberately obtuse.

Except what was described in the OP sounds like an organized effort by one faction to control towns thereby giving safe passage to their own members, which is exactly how Cyrodil is meant to be played and likely what ZOS was hoping would happen when they decided to include the town dailies in this week's event. It's not their fault other alliances don't care enough about potential new recruits to do the same. If other alliances were to follow suit there'd not only be a lot less complaining on the forums but there would probably be a lot of people new to PVP who found the rewards of group effort in a hostile environment to be exciting and wanting to return afterwards.

So not only is this not griefing, but these players should actually be praised for taking a break from their quest for emperorship this week to introduce new players to the spirit of cyrodil and the potential therein.

I myself am new to cyrodil this week and have been having a great time there and plan to come back often. Although admittedly I haven't seen much action in the towns, which I guess you could say makes me lucky, but tbh I found that to be quite boring (not terrible, I normally PVE so I like questing, but I didn't finally make my way to cyrodil just to be left alone) and so I've mostly been doing the scouting and bounty board quests and taking part in fort battles.

In short, there's plenty of threads on the forum about people spawn camping or waiting for someone to be in a dialog screen to attack, things that could actually be considered griefing, this isn't one of them, or at least doesn't seem to be to me.

SidraWillowsky

Skwor wrote: »

Except what was described in the OP sounds like an organized effort by one faction to control towns thereby giving safe passage to their own members, which is exactly how Cyrodil is meant to be played and likely what ZOS was hoping would happen when they decided to include the town dailies in this week's event.

Except... that's not what they're doing. Some of them are streaming it live and it's clear that they're just doing it to mess with people. The vast majority don't give a flip about the members of their factions who are questing.

If you sit outside for more than a few minutes without anyone going in, they come right back out. Because they're not getting the attention they want or whatever. That's great if they ARE keeping it "safe" for their faction, but that's not what I've observed in the slightest.

That said. I'm glad you're enjoying Cyro (truly; this is not sarcasm)! I have a lot of fun there during the non-event times...

laksikus

its nit griefing.
they are not doing it to anno y or haress you fir thesake of annoying you.
they do it to farm AP

Alucardo

Mizael wrote: »

they should have not choose cyro for a pve event, it's pure frustration to get ganked and farmed in the locations of the event.Next time zos use another zone thank you

pve event? Are you saying pvpers don't expect or deserve rewards too? This is why people get griefed.

Jawshoeuh

MazzarattiMama wrote: »

SoLooney wrote: »

Goes into a pvp zone, gets killed by pvpers

Also, you not a mature person.

You must be the highlight of parties...

Zavijah

Alll this for Abnur Tharn motifs.

Can't they be bought cheaply on the broker?

You've no other choice but to accept that there is no condition, or rules to expect good behaviour on a pvp map.

It's detached from reality and naieve to think that people will make exceptions for you.

Mr_Walker

Wandering_Immigrant wrote: »

So not only is this not griefing, but these players should actually be praised for taking a break from their quest for emperorship this week to introduce new players to the spirit of cyrodil and the potential therein.

If you're new to PvP you'll soon learn getting killed whilst in a loading screen truly is the spirit of Cyrodiil, and it happens all the time, no event needed.

barney2525

My number one rule - Go at a time where there will be few others. I like 3 am

Granted, some people have more flexibility than others, but this has worked well for me.

I also don't "push it" if the situation looks bad. Character pops into cyradil, and I take a good look at the transitus shrine map. If my towns are not free and clear, I leave. Wait til that campaign resets.

I did a bunch of these dailies and previous Cyradil event that was for tickets I did a bunch of dailies then.

Been playing 4 years and have Never yet had an actual fight with another character. (Has Nothing to do with my preferred style which is to do quests and try out new characters to see how effective specific tactics/play styles are)

But I have done a lot of Cyradil dailies during events.

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