DPS players are making me sick

ThanatosXR

70% are totally worthless, they join up for vet dungeons and think spamming ramdom skills is great, even worse when they have no real dps, most literally stand in bosses aoe , its rare you find one that knows how groups work and helps buff while dps, a whinny player is always dps, they always blame the tank or the healer for them not knowing groupplay.
I kid you not I was doing vet with 400cp dps player a he was the worse, im 100% sure the guy spammed his way though the game, dude complained about the tank cause of a bad pull he did earlier, kinda werid for the tank not know about getting the adds first anyways we wipe, I'm guessing the tanks never ran that dungeon, which is werid to learn a dungeon via vet lol he was surprisingly easy to support, never have had real bad tank anyways we get to the last boss and the dps player just was like dogging the tank despite he is doing really good, and the guy is just freaking out over a player dying cause damn instakills plus the dps players were to stupid to roll backwards when the boss aoe ,me being healer was just stunned about the balls of this guy, rez him dude its easier for dps to rez while the tank can holds, I cant keep heal/support, otherwise its wait til I believe Ive stabilized the group enough we won't wipe.
Its unreal, alot of the high CP dps players never learn group mechanics never have seen this so widespread in a mmo before, maybe im over-reacting but dude was much higher than me.
Never have i played a mmo with so many high players dps, not knowing jack about grouping. Its always a dps player

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Chelo

ThanatosXR wrote: »

70% are totally worthless, they join up for vet dungeons and think spamming ramdom skills is great, even worse when they have no real dps, most literally stand in bosses aoe , its rare you find one that knows how groups work and helps buff while dps, a whinny player is always dps, they always blame the tank or the healer for them not knowing groupplay.
I kid you not I was doing vet with 400cp dps player a he was the worse, im 100% sure the guy spammed his way though the game, dude complained about the tank cause of a bad pull he did earlier, kinda werid for the tank not know about getting the adds first anyways we wipe, I'm guessing the tanks never ran that dungeon, which is werid to learn a dungeon via vet lol he was surprisingly easy to support, never have had real bad tank anyways we get to the last boss and the dps player just was like dogging the tank despite he is doing really good, and the guy is just freaking out over a player dying cause damn instakills plus the dps players were to stupid to roll backwards when the boss aoe ,me being healer was just stunned about the balls of this guy, rez him dude its easier for dps to rez while the tank can holds, I cant keep heal/support, otherwise its wait til I believe Ive stabilized the group enough we won't wipe.
Its unreal, alot of the high CP dps players never learn group mechanics never have seen this so widespread in a mmo before, maybe im over-reacting but dude was much higher than me.
Never have i played a mmo with so many high players dps, not knowing jack about grouping. Its always a dps player

Don't PUG then... Of all the MMOs I've played in my life, this is the one with most beginners.

Keep in mind that 85% of the population here are people who came because this have Elder Scrolls in the title and didn't even know what's an MMO... And will all this Experience Events is really easy to level for new players.

Elsweyr is going to be really fun because Dragons are the equivalent of a World Trial Boss (they have 16m HP) and you will see all these lvl 1-20 new players running to them like "look a Dragon, I going to kill it like I did in Skyrim" hahahahahaha can't wait XD

Bradyfjord

ThanatosXR wrote: »

70% are totally worthless, they join up for vet dungeons and think spamming ramdom skills is great, even worse when they have no real dps, most literally stand in bosses aoe , its rare you find one that knows how groups work and helps buff while dps, a whinny player is always dps, they always blame the tank or the healer for them not knowing groupplay.

Welcome to online gaming. It's been this way for a long time. This was a major complaint during Vanilla Wow (my first mmo) as well. Back then, I was the caster that stood in the fire to get off 'one more cast'.

Chelo wrote: »

Elsweyr is going to be really fun because Dragons are the equivalent of a World Trial Boss (they have 16m HP) and you will see all these lvl 1-20 new players running to them like "look a Dragon, I going to kill it like I did in Skyrim" hahahahahaha can't wait XD

Two things: Don't spoil anything for me. But, thanks for the warning. I totally would have recklessly run up to check out the dragons.

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p_tsakirisb16_ESO

ThanatosXR wrote: »

70% are totally worthless, they join up for vet dungeons and think spamming ramdom skills is great, even worse when they have no real dps, most literally stand in bosses aoe , its rare you find one that knows how groups work and helps buff while dps, a whinny player is always dps, they always blame the tank or the healer for them not knowing groupplay.
I kid you not I was doing vet with 400cp dps player a he was the worse, im 100% sure the guy spammed his way though the game, dude complained about the tank cause of a bad pull he did earlier, kinda werid for the tank not know about getting the adds first anyways we wipe, I'm guessing the tanks never ran that dungeon, which is werid to learn a dungeon via vet lol he was surprisingly easy to support, never have had real bad tank anyways we get to the last boss and the dps player just was like dogging the tank despite he is doing really good, and the guy is just freaking out over a player dying cause damn instakills plus the dps players were to stupid to roll backwards when the boss aoe ,me being healer was just stunned about the balls of this guy, rez him dude its easier for dps to rez while the tank can holds, I cant keep heal/support, otherwise its wait til I believe Ive stabilized the group enough we won't wipe.
Its unreal, alot of the high CP dps players never learn group mechanics never have seen this so widespread in a mmo before, maybe im over-reacting but dude was much higher than me.
Never have i played a mmo with so many high players dps, not knowing jack about grouping. Its always a dps player

And what about the rest 30% of us, who are starved from resources, having the healer crying "manage better your resources, and I am spamming orbs". While the same healer cast orbs aiming to the other side of the room away from everyone else including the boss?

What about those healers who cry if one DD doesn't perform well, however the other DD keeps pulling the whole group to the end, without complaining or getting bothered?

And finally. When a healer does less than 6K dps, and complains about the DDs, is as bad if not worse than any bad DD.
Because 5000 dps is just the Wall from destro staff, plus 1 AOE dot depending the class. (eg Blazing Spear).
And with couple of heavy attacks in the mix and combat prayer.

Which surprisingly, is a rare skill these days from all those DDs, disguised as healers who are complaining all the time these days.

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ThanatosXR wrote: »

70% are totally worthless, they join up for vet dungeons and think spamming ramdom skills is great, even worse when they have no real dps, most literally stand in bosses aoe , its rare you find one that knows how groups work and helps buff while dps, a whinny player is always dps, they always blame the tank or the healer for them not knowing groupplay.
I kid you not I was doing vet with 400cp dps player a he was the worse, im 100% sure the guy spammed his way though the game, dude complained about the tank cause of a bad pull he did earlier, kinda werid for the tank not know about getting the adds first anyways we wipe, I'm guessing the tanks never ran that dungeon, which is werid to learn a dungeon via vet lol he was surprisingly easy to support, never have had real bad tank anyways we get to the last boss and the dps player just was like dogging the tank despite he is doing really good, and the guy is just freaking out over a player dying cause damn instakills plus the dps players were to stupid to roll backwards when the boss aoe ,me being healer was just stunned about the balls of this guy, rez him dude its easier for dps to rez while the tank can holds, I cant keep heal/support, otherwise its wait til I believe Ive stabilized the group enough we won't wipe.
Its unreal, alot of the high CP dps players never learn group mechanics never have seen this so widespread in a mmo before, maybe im over-reacting but dude was much higher than me.
Never have i played a mmo with so many high players dps, not knowing jack about grouping. Its always a dps player

Periods and paragraphs. Please.

On a side note, this isn't uncommon, and it actually happens with all roles but its more noticeable with dps. When a dps is closer to the floor than the ceiling in performance its easier to tell since they obviously do less damage and will die more from mechanics they do not know about. They slow down a run considerably. Tanks and healers closer to the floor will still die more, but wearing heavy armor and being able to spam heals on themselves will help them stay alive easier even when they should be dying. Not to mention that performing the basic parts of their roles, taunting and blocking for a tank and spamming heals for a healer, are so brain dead easy I could do them with my feet on the keyboard. When it comes to additional parts of the roles like debuffing, buffing, add/boss control, group positioning, and off-dpsing, the roles have much higher ceilings that reward player skill.

TLDR: There are potatoes in every role. Its just much more noticeable doing content what a non-productive-sponge-*** a 10k dps that is dying is. The other role comparisons would be the likes of a tank that just taunts and blocks or a healer that only spams Healing Springs.

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SoLooney

Your post made me sick, felt like a whiney 5 year old wrote this post

Indoril_Nerevar

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No matter what, so long as any association online allows us to make public commenting and replies?

You will always have the lesser, pathetic players that will overpopulate the respectful ones.

That is why your post made this person sick. Because they are sick and can not help but to explain this to you.

So, until than all WE are doing is giving our opinion based from experiences, and hoping for good results -

But those guys? They have 'different motives' but don't let it put you down because after all, these are sick and miserable people. I'm sure they'll tell you otherwise but hey, if that's the case than I'm Batman, I own half the world AND my *** is 16 inches?

I agree with your post and I understand the agitation. Imagine a DPS that is not only worthless or incompetent for the trial, but they're also a rude ***? Yeah. I get it.

Give us better 'matchmaking' to our levels.
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Trinity_Is_My_Name

I see this happening more and more as time goes on. Could it be because so many players now level through CP with grinding in the Catacombs or other places where they all gather together (i.e. Dolmens)? I think this is a big part of it.

It is not uncommon (for me at least) when I PUG to get two or three max level CP players that do pretty much nothing in the Vet dungeon run. It's like they think "I am CP 1233, I can destroy anything" as they die standing in red.

Iskiab

OP’s right, most dps in the game are horrible. The game is different from other games for dps which is fine, but you’d think people would do some research before whining and complaining about other players in group chat. Usually under CP300 players are horrible, not because they have low dps but because they are ignorant of the game’s mechanics and quick to blame everyone else.

Why do you think healers and tanks stop queuing for random dungeons? Lots of DPS that no one wants to group with.

Kurat

High cp with low dps is partly because all them xp events. People grind 24/7 in Alikir's and then think they are ready for vet content. Also daily rewards giving xp scrolls and easy access to xp pots makes ppl level up very quick.
Oh and expect to see alot more bad dps next week when event boxes drop in dungeons and trials. Ppl who normally dont go there and PVPers will be doing them.

MooseKnuckles88

Chelo wrote: »

ThanatosXR wrote: »

70% are totally worthless, they join up for vet dungeons and think spamming ramdom skills is great, even worse when they have no real dps, most literally stand in bosses aoe , its rare you find one that knows how groups work and helps buff while dps, a whinny player is always dps, they always blame the tank or the healer for them not knowing groupplay.
I kid you not I was doing vet with 400cp dps player a he was the worse, im 100% sure the guy spammed his way though the game, dude complained about the tank cause of a bad pull he did earlier, kinda werid for the tank not know about getting the adds first anyways we wipe, I'm guessing the tanks never ran that dungeon, which is werid to learn a dungeon via vet lol he was surprisingly easy to support, never have had real bad tank anyways we get to the last boss and the dps player just was like dogging the tank despite he is doing really good, and the guy is just freaking out over a player dying cause damn instakills plus the dps players were to stupid to roll backwards when the boss aoe ,me being healer was just stunned about the balls of this guy, rez him dude its easier for dps to rez while the tank can holds, I cant keep heal/support, otherwise its wait til I believe Ive stabilized the group enough we won't wipe.
Its unreal, alot of the high CP dps players never learn group mechanics never have seen this so widespread in a mmo before, maybe im over-reacting but dude was much higher than me.
Never have i played a mmo with so many high players dps, not knowing jack about grouping. Its always a dps player

Don't PUG then...

El_Borracho

I'm guessing from your post you are either a healer or DPS, as only a fool would run 2 tanks on a vet dungeon. If you are a healer, maybe put your heals down where you want the DPS. If you are a DPS, show them where to be by being in the right place.

If you want them to figure it out, explain it to them. If they can't figure it out, or refuse to listen, boot them. Unless you are running DLC dungeons, it sounds like you are part of the problem. Heck, I had a tank DC this weekend at the very beginning of Vet EH2. Ran it just fine with 2 DPS and a healer, and for one of the DPS it was his first time in the dungeon. And it was a PUG.

So spare us the "its so hard being so awesome all the time while others are awful."

dazee

But are they dps players if they don't do dps? MIND BLOWN!

zvavi

lets put aside jokes, dont pug man. when u do pug, dont expect dps or tank to do well. also to your question, majority of good dds run as 3 dd+tank or a premade team with a heal (honestly, i sometimes run pledges 5 keys with 4 dds, and i am not that good)

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Oreyn_Bearclaw

Chelo wrote: »

ThanatosXR wrote: »

70% are totally worthless, they join up for vet dungeons and think spamming ramdom skills is great, even worse when they have no real dps, most literally stand in bosses aoe , its rare you find one that knows how groups work and helps buff while dps, a whinny player is always dps, they always blame the tank or the healer for them not knowing groupplay.
I kid you not I was doing vet with 400cp dps player a he was the worse, im 100% sure the guy spammed his way though the game, dude complained about the tank cause of a bad pull he did earlier, kinda werid for the tank not know about getting the adds first anyways we wipe, I'm guessing the tanks never ran that dungeon, which is werid to learn a dungeon via vet lol he was surprisingly easy to support, never have had real bad tank anyways we get to the last boss and the dps player just was like dogging the tank despite he is doing really good, and the guy is just freaking out over a player dying cause damn instakills plus the dps players were to stupid to roll backwards when the boss aoe ,me being healer was just stunned about the balls of this guy, rez him dude its easier for dps to rez while the tank can holds, I cant keep heal/support, otherwise its wait til I believe Ive stabilized the group enough we won't wipe.
Its unreal, alot of the high CP dps players never learn group mechanics never have seen this so widespread in a mmo before, maybe im over-reacting but dude was much higher than me.
Never have i played a mmo with so many high players dps, not knowing jack about grouping. Its always a dps player

Don't PUG then... Of all the MMOs I've played in my life, this is the one with most beginners.

Keep in mind that 85% of the population here are people who came because this have Elder Scrolls in the title and didn't even know what's an MMO... And will all this Experience Events is really easy to level for new players.

Elsweyr is going to be really fun because Dragons are the equivalent of a World Trial Boss (they have 16m HP) and you will see all these lvl 1-20 new players running to them like "look a Dragon, I going to kill it like I did in Skyrim" hahahahahaha can't wait XD

I think that misses the mark. Its not that everyone in ESO is a noob, its that it has a significantly higher skill floor than most MMOs. There are a lot of people out there that just arent going to be up for vet content without a lot of practice that they are never going to put in.

The conclusion is still the same. Dont pug vet dungeons unless you are up for an adventure. Being able to put out enough DPS to carry a scrub or two doesnt hurt either.