Why Necromancer for Elsweyr?

Daoist

Hear me out.... I'll be brief.

It's Elsweyr. It's about the Khajit & Dragons. Khajit are known to practice a Hand-to-Hand combat style (martial art). Where the heck did you guys follow all that right there in front of your faces and nose dive into Necromancer?

Don't you think Martial Artist (or whatever you want to call it) would have been LITERALLY a million times cooler and, well.... make a ton more since organically to the setting?

Not trying to grief ZOS. Not wanting to get into a discussion / debate with anyone that's super excited about Necromancers. I'm just saying... isn't Kahjit Martial Arts a LONG time coming at this point? Isn't Elsweyr the BEST opportunity for it to be brought in?

P.S. I think they've been in the game since launch as NPC's. The starting island of the Aldmeri Dominion I believe. So, again... what the heck? LOL

VaranisArano

Lots more people have been asking for necromancer than people asking for hand-to-hand.

ZOS is going to go with where the $$$ and interest is.

TheInvalidUsername

Khajiiti culture is indifferent about necromancy for the most part.

Daoist

VaranisArano wrote: »

Lots more people have been asking for necromancer than people asking for hand-to-hand.

ZOS is going to go with where the $$$ and interest is.

That's sad, tbh. A bit shallow on the fanbase's part too, imo. Meh, each his own of course. I just remember a long time ago the fans were wanting hand-to-hand in the game.

Oh well.. not like I was posting this to see a change. Just found it incredibly out of place, and odd.

Daoist

TheInvalidUsername wrote: »

Khajiiti culture is indifferent about necromancy for the most part.

Yeah, I mean... I know Necros are part of Tam. They've always been here in every game. Just find this a seriously blown opportunity for more uniqueness added to ESO.

ryzen_gamer_gal

seems like a valid point.

Chicharron

Agree with you.

I do not know what is special about Necromancer class, i see it as any other.

But since the beginning of the game people have been asking for a Necromancer.

It's probably something nerd that escapes my understanding.

Ankael07

Because not everything has to come from already established lore. New lore means new interesting concepts and stories. Its not like Elsweyr is foreign to Necromancy anyway

Check out the Elsweyr section of this book

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Corpse_Preparation

Robo_Hobo

Yeah I agree, even before Elsweyr was announced, I was always hoping that when an Elsweyr chapter happened, that it would come with a Monk class focusing on the Khajiiti martial arts we've always heard about.

I'm indifferent about Necromancers being a class, but I know it was always a popular suggestion so I'm happy for those who have been looking forward to it, I just think it was a missed opportunity this time for a more relevant class. However, there's still hope for a Southern Elsweyr chapter eventually having Monks as a new class added with it, or just Monks being added as a class with any chapter (but it wouldn't have the same opportunity to dig deeper into the lore of it as it would if it were added with an Elsweyr-based chapter).

Of course, they could always just introduce the Khajiiti martial arts in non-class ways too, like world skill lines, or unarmed combat. If or when they ever do add a Monk class to the game that's probably going to instantly become my main character, as I've always wanted to make a Khajiti martial arts expert in ESO.

Maybe some day! For now though, I'm happy for those who are excited about the Necromancer class, and I'm just happy to finally have the chance to explore more of Elsweyr.

Goregrinder

We've been wanting Necromancer in ESO since like 2005 man. Kung Pu Panda can wait.

Tensar

Hand to hand should be in "world" skill line, and khajit should have a little buff in it.

SFDB

Daoist wrote: »

Don't you think Martial Artist (or whatever you want to call it) would have been LITERALLY a million times cooler and, well.... make a ton more since organically to the setting?

The second part, maybe, but the first part could not be more wrong, and I'm not even counting emphasizing "literally" when it's not being used properly.

Given a choice between utilizing the forces of death in every way from raising skeleton minions to hurling spiritual energy around, vs punching and kicking things, I'm going to pick the thing that I couldn't already do in real life if I felt like heading down to the strip mall once a week. If Master Chad could teach me how to turn into a skeletal behemoth, I'd be there.

And I'm speaking as someone who actually would like to see unarmed added to the game. It's just you're suggesting a free lunch is better than a a free lunch at a five star restaurant with a hot date.

Imperial_Voice

Daoist wrote: »

Hear me out.... I'll be brief.

It's Elsweyr. It's about the Khajit & Dragons. Khajit are known to practice a Hand-to-Hand combat style (martial art). Where the heck did you guys follow all that right there in front of your faces and nose dive into Necromancer?

Don't you think Martial Artist (or whatever you want to call it) would have been LITERALLY a million times cooler and, well.... make a ton more since organically to the setting?

Not trying to grief ZOS. Not wanting to get into a discussion / debate with anyone that's super excited about Necromancers. I'm just saying... isn't Kahjit Martial Arts a LONG time coming at this point? Isn't Elsweyr the BEST opportunity for it to be brought in?

P.S. I think they've been in the game since launch as NPC's. The starting island of the Aldmeri Dominion I believe. So, again... what the heck? LOL

Martial artist makes literally no sense in ESO. Thats like saying the grey beards are in skyrim so we should get a dragonborn class.

Ahlteffour

While what makes the most sense is often lost to the excitement of creating entertainment, it's hard to deny that the necromancer create far more hype and excitement to promote a years worth of content. Necro has been asked for since beta, and giving a large portion of fans what they want will sell far better than giving people what is technically more lore accurate.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

cuz they ran out of ideas on how to make money and appeal the playerbase by actually fixing the most crucial issues with the game...so they played their last card for a quick buck...cant wait to see whats next...I rly do.

Goregrinder

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

cuz they ran out of ideas on how to make money and appeal the playerbase by actually fixing the most crucial issues with the game...so they played their last card for a quick buck...cant wait to see whats next...I rly do.

This comment inspired me. I just bought 21k more crowns so ZOS can grab more of my cash.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

Goregrinder wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

cuz they ran out of ideas on how to make money and appeal the playerbase by actually fixing the most crucial issues with the game...so they played their last card for a quick buck...cant wait to see whats next...I rly do.

This comment inspired me. I just bought 21k more crowns so ZOS can grab more of my cash.

nothing wrong with that though...im just waiting with my 27k crowns for something worthy...soon...I hope?...still waiting...

Cadbury

You see people necro old threads on the forum all the time. So of course, Necromancer was hotly anticipated.

Tasear

Cause it is nerco! 👻

Jenzi

I agree with op, I think a monk class with a polearm weapon would of been extremely cool, and it does seem like a missed opportunity. Everyone is gagging for new weapons too. Hopefully it will be a new class in the future.

Lumenn

More people have asked for necro than monk(i personally prefer a monk but /shrug) and(IMO) it's probably easier tweaking some code(we already have finger wigglers, flashy lights, and summons) to put a new skin on skills and make a necro than to code a hand to hand light armor mitigation monk type class.

Eirikir

I mean it wouldn't have to be one or the other. Necro could be a new class and "monk" could just be a new weapon type. Claws and gloves with a "spirit" model that would let you glam invisible if the other models are not to your liking. Or a glowing option also. Make all 5 skill's morphs branch, default Stam, one morph Stam and one Mag. That way it could give both the fighter players and hand casting mage players something happy.


And a new weapon type is open and doesn't require a new alt to play and try out.

Canned_Apples

VaranisArano wrote: »

Lots more people have been asking for necromancer than people asking for hand-to-hand.

ZOS is going to go with where the $$$ and interest is.

Same reason why they're going to be mega-oped for the first 6+ months

Caligamy_ESO

Canned_Apples wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Lots more people have been asking for necromancer than people asking for hand-to-hand.

ZOS is going to go with where the $$$ and interest is.

Same reason why they're going to be mega-oped for the first 6+ months

Is this a nerf Warden thread?

Sorry, think I had a flashback of threads from 2 years ago.

Tasear

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Canned_Apples wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Lots more people have been asking for necromancer than people asking for hand-to-hand.

ZOS is going to go with where the $$$ and interest is.

Same reason why they're going to be mega-oped for the first 6+ months

Is this a nerf Warden thread?

Sorry, think I had a flashback of threads from 2 years ago.

😓 They are still waiting for those OP days...

Blackwing_Soul

I came back to play ESO for the Necro class. I would not have come back for khajiit kung fu.

/thread

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Because that us when ZOS decided to release it.

Daoist

Ankael07 wrote: »

Because not everything has to come from already established lore. New lore means new interesting concepts and stories. Its not like Elsweyr is foreign to Necromancy anyway

Check out the Elsweyr section of this book

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Corpse_Preparation

Of course it doesn't. This game has made a habit of avoiding that very thing in most cases, and I like that a lot in fact. However... that being said, this is a pretty big moment to pas up on and it does seem out of place, all things considered.

dogman

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

cuz they ran out of ideas on how to make money and appeal the playerbase by actually fixing the most crucial issues with the game...so they played their last card for a quick buck...cant wait to see whats next...I rly do.

shut up u dork

me_ming

Ankael07 wrote: »

Because not everything has to come from already established lore. New lore means new interesting concepts and stories. Its not like Elsweyr is foreign to Necromancy anyway

Check out the Elsweyr section of this book

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Corpse_Preparation

I kinda agree to this. While it's cool to have like a monk class, or that necromancy seems a little odd when you talk about khajiits or dragons. But then again, what has the warden has to do with Morrowind, eh? It's most likely because people have been asking for the class, and well... Elsweyr. I mean there's nothing wrong with having Necromancy being included in the Chapter.

Red_Feather

I think because the Tharn siblings are involved and they know necromancy. And maybe we get taught necromancy to help stop dragons.