Future of stam dk

ochsinator

To replace wings do we slot defense posture and immovable instead of spiked armor for resistance and snare immunity and defense posture to reflect

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Praeficere

Keep spiked armour

You have Foward Momentum for snare immunity (Immovable doesn't help against snares), if you really want a reflect use the Sword and Shield Ult

But to be honest, you're a Stam Dk, just face-tank everything with Fury and 7th Legion

@Anti_Virus madlad

Davadin

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Just play madDK

oh i'm MAD alright.........

Alucardo

I mean, I just never used wings on my stam dk. Used the extra mag on more fragmented shields. I play in medium armor, so I can dodge roll any hard hitting projectiles like snipes.
Race against time will be a popular pick I imagine. It'll grant immunity to snares and immobilizations, major force and major expedition. You'd have to be crazy to not have this on your bar

Davadin

Alucardo wrote: »

I mean, I just never used wings on my stam dk. Used the extra mag on more fragmented shields. I play in medium armor, so I can dodge roll any hard hitting projectiles like snipes.
Race against time will be a popular pick I imagine. It'll grant immunity to snares and immobilizations, major force and major expedition. You'd have to be crazy to not have this on your bar

and being Psijic it'll have extra buff when u block.

i already have it in my bar for pvp in live.

juhislihis19

Davadin wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I mean, I just never used wings on my stam dk. Used the extra mag on more fragmented shields. I play in medium armor, so I can dodge roll any hard hitting projectiles like snipes.
Race against time will be a popular pick I imagine. It'll grant immunity to snares and immobilizations, major force and major expedition. You'd have to be crazy to not have this on your bar

and being Psijic it'll have extra buff when u block.

i already have it in my bar for pvp in live.

But RAT is another costly magicka skill (well costly for a stam player at least, for me RAT is about 25% of my whole magicka pool). So now a stamina-based DK would absolutely have to slot: Frag Shield or Petrify, RAT and Spiked Armor. Igneous Weapons if one is not playing with 2H. Maybe Inferno.

Almost a bar full of magicka skills, that surely don't happen with stamden or stamblade (don't know about stamsorc). And those skills are costly as hell!

Anti_Virus

Praeficere wrote: »

Keep spiked armour

You have Foward Momentum for snare immunity (Immovable doesn't help against snares), if you really want a reflect use the Sword and Shield Ult

But to be honest, you're a Stam Dk, just face-tank everything with Fury and 7th Legion

@Anti_Virus madlad

Seriously, Asking for stam DK or Sorc for that matter for buffs is apparently asking for too much from zos.

Checkmath

juhislihis19 wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I mean, I just never used wings on my stam dk. Used the extra mag on more fragmented shields. I play in medium armor, so I can dodge roll any hard hitting projectiles like snipes.
Race against time will be a popular pick I imagine. It'll grant immunity to snares and immobilizations, major force and major expedition. You'd have to be crazy to not have this on your bar

and being Psijic it'll have extra buff when u block.

i already have it in my bar for pvp in live.

But RAT is another costly magicka skill (well costly for a stam player at least, for me RAT is about 25% of my whole magicka pool). So now a stamina-based DK would absolutely have to slot: Frag Shield or Petrify, RAT and Spiked Armor. Igneous Weapons if one is not playing with 2H. Maybe Inferno.

Almost a bar full of magicka skills, that surely don't happen with stamden or stamblade (don't know about stamsorc). And those skills are costly as hell!

Its not only stamdks wanting RAT on their bar, the same goes for pretty much all heavy stam specs and many magicka specs. Medium armor specs will be even less prevalent, since shuffle doesnt provide as much as RAT or forward momentum. I think stamdks can handle that magicka burden decently, since they have quite some magicka regen via their ultimates. Still there are stamdks, which used wings before (Leif Erickson played that kind of way some weeks ago), but they had to dip in a bit more for magicka sustain. I think one recovery glyph will fullfill that.

Wing

swapping wings for RaT is a no brainer, and the magicka restore on being hit from heavy along with a 15k magicka bar on my DK (just from tri glyphs) was more then enough to let me get by using wings, igneous shield, and spiked armor without having to worry about magicka too much.

I removed shield off my bar for a few BG matches to make room and found myself with ALOT of magicka constantly, so with RaT being more efficient then wings (lasts 4 sec compared to 2) and with the added benefit of expedition saving me a potion effect I will be FAR better off then I am now.

thought pretty much EVERYONE is going to be running RaT without exceptions, snares and immobilizes are going to be completely ineffective in pvp, and everyone is going to be faster all the time.

time to kill is going to change too, with everyone being faster and defile being removed from most sources and its CP nerfed, securing or killing other players is going to be a chore to impossible.

Alucardo

Wing wrote: »

time to kill is going to change too, with everyone being faster and defile being removed from most sources and its CP nerfed, securing or killing other players is going to be a chore to impossible.

You haven't met the Necromancer yet, have you? Incredibly bursty AOE ability with major defile attached. Prepare ur anoos

Wing

Alucardo wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

time to kill is going to change too, with everyone being faster and defile being removed from most sources and its CP nerfed, securing or killing other players is going to be a chore to impossible.

You haven't met the Necromancer yet, have you? Incredibly bursty AOE ability with major defile attached. Prepare ur anoos

oh yeah I saw that,

*nerf / remove defile on everyone*

. . .

*gives it to necro*

. . .-_-

Moonsorrow

Yeah, after testing stamnecro.. can say it will get kills left and right, it is the future of stamdk.. i mean stam all in all haha.

Davadin

juhislihis19 wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I mean, I just never used wings on my stam dk. Used the extra mag on more fragmented shields. I play in medium armor, so I can dodge roll any hard hitting projectiles like snipes.
Race against time will be a popular pick I imagine. It'll grant immunity to snares and immobilizations, major force and major expedition. You'd have to be crazy to not have this on your bar

and being Psijic it'll have extra buff when u block.

i already have it in my bar for pvp in live.

But RAT is another costly magicka skill (well costly for a stam player at least, for me RAT is about 25% of my whole magicka pool). So now a stamina-based DK would absolutely have to slot: Frag Shield or Petrify, RAT and Spiked Armor. Igneous Weapons if one is not playing with 2H. Maybe Inferno.

Almost a bar full of magicka skills, that surely don't happen with stamden or stamblade (don't know about stamsorc). And those skills are costly as hell!

i got those 4 mag on both bars, 2 on each. it's no problem. u hit spiked armor before jumping into a fight. hit RAT, then frag shield for the minor damage buff if u have magicka left. and petrify is situational so it's not every time.

and yes, with ultimates giving back resources, it won't be as bad.

juhislihis19

Wing wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

time to kill is going to change too, with everyone being faster and defile being removed from most sources and its CP nerfed, securing or killing other players is going to be a chore to impossible.

You haven't met the Necromancer yet, have you? Incredibly bursty AOE ability with major defile attached. Prepare ur anoos

oh yeah I saw that,

*nerf / remove defile on everyone*

. . .

*gives it to necro*

. . .-_-

Wouldn't be surprised at all if Necro would go unnerfed until official release. How else ZOS going to get more money? Not by giving sDK any identity that's for sure!

ochsinator

Gaaaawwwwddd dang it I don’t wanna have to level the pisjic order those quest are so boring