Is ESO no longer worth paying for?

JohnT379

Queuing to log in for 20 minutes (which ends up being 30 minutes) and then getting dropped by the server (EU in my case) after 20 minutes, what is the point of paying for ESO Plus or any further "Chapter" such as Elsweyr, when others are being invited to play on mass for free, or able to purchase the game for a mere £10 especially after you've paid full whack for the original game, for every extension, and paid up front for ESO plus right from the start? There doesn't seem to be any time now day or night when the servers are so congested that you have difficulty logging on, get dropped by the server in the middle of things or every time you use a portal to change location {"Error: unable to connect to Server"], and while you are playing, displayed motion comes to a complete stop for 2 or 3 seconds, or you suddenly find your player has suddenly jumped about 200 yards down the road in a blink of the eye and facing in a different direction - very disorienting. I'm so pissed off with the reluctance of ZOS/Bethesda to adequately deal with these problems instead of provoking worse degradation. I've almost lost the will to continue to play this game, and I certainly won't bed paying out any more cash for anything else that Bethesda is promoting until there is a radical change in attitude towards its customers and provision of adequate server capacity and performance to ensure that everyone gets the experience they believe they have paid for.

bharathitman

At this point there are so many threads regarding login queues that creating another new thread doesn't make sense and is counterproductive to having other discussions.

FlyingSwan

I cancelled my yearly sub and Elsweyr pre-order last night as soon as I saw the login queue, as that's certainly not worth paying for. The ZOS support team responded quickly and the matter was closed within 30 mins of me raising the ticket.

I'm going to keep checking the forums for updates on remediation, but in future I'll be very careful about paying anything for this game, as it's of a F2P level of quality.

OwnerOfSuccuby

My opinion is:
To stop degradation this must be done:

1)no big changes. No race, classes, no champion points, up gear level rebalancec.

No of this bad stuff at all.

2)fix bug, upgrade game for better play for more comfortable play. No changes in existing skills and gear. Only add new, not remake old stuff. Change problems with new stuff , sets, skills. Stop reworking already existing stuff. It becomes worser each time. No new must not annul and remove old mechanics.

3) Better hardware, fix bugs with skills and swap panels. And bugs with attaking not selected but wrong target.

4) make skills work on press button. Not on release !!! When you press button 1-2-3. Make sistem remember that you press it.

Swap oanel can work like - you press i understand it and cast skills from it. Now itis impossible will it swap or not and what skill it will cast.

The same for dors in cerodill.

I pres enter. It do not enter. I press 20 times - no reaction i press and press and press. And start to enter- exit- enter - exit fo million times. Must be fixed.

Always in battle - can not sit on mount or change skills. Must be fixed. Force out of battle. Like button character stay 10-15 seconds and not in agr if get no damage. Can mount, enter dorse, change skills.

Tons of bugs hard to write all.

The most one i hate are these.

And that i tab target but attack random one when try to hit target i need and that is locked with tab. Or can not hit target becouse of buged textures. Stay near it and miss by heawy attacks by my tank.

Make bg with CP. For thouse who want real fight not to fight with out it. We level up not just for not useble caption. We want real bg not this no CP. Who want no CP can go it. But wy no CP alternative?

billp_ESO

To me it is worth it. I buy 6 months at a time and the cost is not enough to notice.

However, I buy nothing from the store, and won't pay for DLC's.

As a casual player who just likes to play, not compete in PvP, or try to run dungeons at light speed, or complete "Events", the game seems fun and worth it.

Of course, if I had complained about performance for two years, with no response, only to be told I have to wait to play because of an "emergency" that we watched happen for two years, I'd probably quit paying even that.

Ertosi

The answer to that is always a personal one. We each look for different things in a game, and evaluate changes and problems differently.


For me, I love ESO overall but expect new significant features to be regularly added if I'm going to keep a sub active and buy stuff from the Crown Store. And by significant features, I'm referring to big extras above and beyond the usual routine of new Dungeons and Zones and their standardized content; stuff like 2017's Player Housing and Battlegrounds and 2018's Outfitting and Jewelry Crafting.

When I saw the first Season of the Dragon stream and saw there was nothing significant (ie above and beyond the usual routine) coming for 2019, that was where they failed to meet my expectations and I canceled my sub. Feel free to expand my signature if you want a more detailed explanation on this.

otis67

It's still worth it for me.

Ahlteffour

For me it comes down to one simple question: Do I still love the game?


The answer for me is yes. It has been yes from day one and has never changed.


You will see players come and go for various reasons. But it is 100% worth it if you're willing to be patient with the game's evolution. It isnt always painless. It can be downright frustrating sometimes (or if you believe these forums its frustrating every single day). But the team behind this game works very hard in delivering the best product they can while at the same time running a business.

theyancey

I just changed my sub from a 6 month one to a 12 month.

Imperial_Voice

Id buy a lifetime sub if I could

todokete

Blade and Soul upgrading their engine from UE3 to UE4 while ESO can't do it ?

Aurrynthea_Drake

The question isn't "is it still worth paying for?"

It should be why has all the money already spent not been used to make our playing experience better.

It looks like they have known that servers would not cope with the load and waited until it went critical mass before doing anything.

Where is all the money players put in to play being spent? Are all the VP's getting new porches?

No one wants to step and say we spent your eso+ subscriptions on new espresso machines in the executive toilets or bumper cars for the mail room or some other ridiculous ***.

jircris11

Aurrynthea_Drake wrote: »

The question isn't "is it still worth paying for?"

It should be why has all the money already spent not been used to make our playing experience better.

It looks like they have known that servers would not cope with the load and waited until it went critical mass before doing anything.

Where is all the money players put in to play being spent? Are all the VP's getting new porches?

No one wants to step and say we spent your eso+ subscriptions on new espresso machines in the executive toilets or bumper cars for the mail room or some other ridiculous ***.

You seen to have the notion that have development is cheap. The money they make goes back in to eso and its devs (and if course CEO and suck) how else would they make the new chapter. Upgrade the EU server (which they are doing)

jircris11

todokete wrote: »

Blade and Soul upgrading their engine from UE3 to UE4 while ESO can't do it ?

Just because one gave was able to died not mean others can. It's all about how it's coded and such iirc bns was made to be updated. And yet it runs like crap in some instances.

EölMPK

ESO is the best mmo over there, so if you really want to play a top mmo, you will have to pay in any form (I prefer to buy the dlcs and xpacs, I hate subs).
If you are not that fan of the MMO genre, maybe there are alternatives for ya that can worth more to spend, even for free.

Ohtimbar

I canceled quite some time ago. I buy the yearly 'chapter' and nothing else.

Bhaal5

Eso was never worth paying for. Other mmos provide more quality content, better service for alot cheaper.

Zos knows eso is a cash grab because of the name and they can just use this to rip off their customers with half done content pushed out as premium price.

Im never buying another expansion, dlc or crown from zos because of their treatment to oceanic players. Its discrimination plain and simple.

DeadlyRecluse

I cancelled my sub awhile ago, but more just because I wasn't playing as much due to RL commitments rather than any intrinsic flaw in the game.

Are you enjoying the game enough to play 10+ hours a month? Then a sub saves you considerable time, gives you considerable value, and is probably worth it.

If you aren't...then it probably isn't.

If you aren't enjoying the game, but are still playing hours a week, you probably need to consider the sunken cost fallacy and get out while you can.