Dungeon Dps dropout

Schemering

i would not kick anyone with 22k health but it would raise my eyebrows a bit. with 22k health its still possible you can do enough damage but its too much health unless you play an imperial. You will be fine with 16k or 17k health in all dungeons so if you traded off stamina for health change that as the more damage you do the less long your health is in danger. Also change it if you wear heavy armor as indeed with heavy armor as a dd youre a liability, you have to wear medium for stamina and light for magicka dd in order to du sustained high damage . Your crit rate is a bit low but your weapon damage is enough. Try to get a mindset of doing damage dont be afraid to lower your health for that; if you do your work as dd and put vigor on your bar you will not even need a healer even with 17k health and wearing light or medium

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Soul19reaper wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Soul19reaper wrote: »

Talking about gear I got my stamblade to 160 cp a week ago in eu server and that character has 0 crafting skill so I bought these from guild stores
5 × briarheart , 3 × agility , 4 × ferocity of gryphon
●Briarheart on body peices with infused trait on big peices like chest and leg and divines on rest that is hand , feet and belt
●Gryphon on weapon with head and shoulders
●Agilty on jewellery
Cost me around ~30k for yhis full gear in purple quality.

Brairheart is such an overrated set. You would be much better of just using hundings.

Infused on a Stam build makes no sense, you will get more damage from divines and amping your mundus, either shadow or lover.

Makes no sense to be running 4 gryphon either, if you wanted to just run a 4 piece, just craft night mother's gaze. What would be better is running hundings+spriggans on the body and jewelry and then using agility weapons. Way more consistent damage then what you are running.

Briarheart for heals aka more surviveability and if you didn't read properly my character did not had any skill in crafting.
Infused for more stamina that is more resources low cp characters don't have that damge boost and resource pool that of high level you cannot do dps if you are dead or have 0 stamina left.

Briarheart is at best 600 HP every second for 10 seconds. With at least a 5 second cool down. You you are not being that much more more survivable with only 6k health every 15 seconds, or 400 health per second.

Get someone to craft hunding/nmg for you then. Ask in Zone. Ask in guild chat. Ask your friends. Don't have friends or a guild? Get some. This is an mmo and there are tons of people that are more then happy to help newer players out.

Infused on your 3 large pieces give an extra ~600 base Stam. You are not getting enough Stam for it to factor into your sustain. It is like 17% of a single ablity. You will get way more Stam switching to spriggans and more damage from having 2 actual five piece sets.

Anntor

dazee wrote: »

Not sure how they know you're not doing enough dps when every add on I've used for dps only shows your own.

This!!! But most people will still ignore your fact ;-)

There is no dps addon, which shows your exact group dps!

But there are lots of people who misunderstood how the group dps feature works in most of the available addons. And especially this missing knowledge leads to a lot of toxic and rude behaviour in group play. Btw. all the players who kick others because their dps addon showed them an estimated 80% of group dps number are just morons. You can estimate the dps of other group members just by paying attention to how they play and how fast NPCs are going down without using any addon!

ESO's API doesn't allow you to see damage numbers from party members to calculate the groups dps. Because of that there can't exist any addon out there which calculates any of these values correctly!

But why do all of the addons show such numbers, and how they are calculated then? Best is an example here:

Let's say there are 4 enemies. Your whole group is beating them. But you do damage to only one of the 4 enemies. And especially you do no damage (and i mean zero damage here, not a single point in damage) to the other 3 enemies. But you beat this single enemy with single-target-damage a lot, so that enemy got maybe 80% of his health damaged just from you. Your dps addon will show you then 80% group dps for this fight! But is this right? You didn't damaged the other 3, which got eliminated by your group. Your group did more damage in overall than you because they killed the other 3 and did 20% of the damage to "your" target. But your addon shows you 80% group damage. WTF? Well, if you are a moron, you start insulting the others for not doing enough damage because you did all (at least 80% in this case) damage alone!

Any dps addon can calculate the dps only from enemies you hit! And that's why group dps numbers are just estimations. And thats the reason why calculated group dps is even more worthless in 12man trials, because most of the time you do not hit ALL enemies at the same time (especially at the start) of any fight. For the best estimation you must use an AoE damage effect which hits all enemies before they are getting hit by any of your party members! How often can you achieve that? (btw. that's why there is even an option to disable "group damage monitoring in large groups" in some addons!)

Some addons trying to circumvent the restriction of the API with a "share dps" feature. In this case all the single player caclulations are thrown together by sending them to each other. Regarding the above example, if 3 of the 4 party members share their values, than they can estimate their dps in respect to all the enemies hit by these 3 players, but not by the 4th.

Shhh, wall of text, and that's why my first sentence will still be viable: "Most people will still ignore your fact! There is no addon which shows your exact group dps."

abzdeman

ZonasArch wrote: »

abzdeman wrote: »

22k health is too high. You only need 15k health on a stam dd, thats for stam resource purposes. Put all your attribute points into stamina. Get a maelstrom bow infused triat. Use Bi food (Max health max stam) or for stam recovery and lower health use Dubious camaron throne.

Gear wise I use Briarheart and vicious ophidian for 4 man dungeons and advancing yokeda with relequen for trials.
Monster set is your preference but I use velidreth some use kraghs, valkyn skoria or stormfist.

Now you need to work on a rotation. I've quit eso so I can't show you but I hit 56k dps on my stamblade. Look up on guides xynode has an easy nightblade rotation after that you can begin to do whats best for you.

Goodluck.

OMG, the baby is starting to walk! Let's put him on a race track!


You realize you didn't help at all being the first line about the health, right?

Erm where was your input to help Op then? Instead of bashing me just add your opinion on how to help him and move on. I've done what I need to do on this game. I may have over looked the cp and his circumstances.

Eso is 5 years old get over yourself. I also suggested he took a look at xynode in-depth guide. Kinda tragic that your focus is on me.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Anntor wrote: »

dazee wrote: »

Not sure how they know you're not doing enough dps when every add on I've used for dps only shows your own.

This!!! But most people will still ignore your fact ;-)

There is no dps addon, which shows your exact group dps!

But there are lots of people who misunderstood how the group dps feature works in most of the available addons. And especially this missing knowledge leads to a lot of toxic and rude behaviour in group play. Btw. all the players who kick others because their dps addon showed them an estimated 80% of group dps number are just morons. You can estimate the dps of other group members just by paying attention to how they play and how fast NPCs are going down without using any addon!

ESO's API doesn't allow you to see damage numbers from party members to calculate the groups dps. Because of that there can't exist any addon out there which calculates any of these values correctly!

But why do all of the addons show such numbers, and how they are calculated then? Best is an example here:

Let's say there are 4 enemies. Your whole group is beating them. But you do damage to only one of the 4 enemies. And especially you do no damage (and i mean zero damage here, not a single point in damage) to the other 3 enemies. But you beat this single enemy with single-target-damage a lot, so that enemy got maybe 80% of his health damaged just from you. Your dps addon will show you then 80% group dps for this fight! But is this right? You didn't damaged the other 3, which got eliminated by your group. Your group did more damage in overall than you because they killed the other 3 and did 20% of the damage to "your" target. But your addon shows you 80% group damage. WTF? Well, if you are a moron, you start insulting the others for not doing enough damage because you did all (at least 80% in this case) damage alone!

Any dps addon can calculate the dps only from enemies you hit! And that's why group dps numbers are just estimations. And thats the reason why calculated group dps is even more worthless in 12man trials, because most of the time you do not hit ALL enemies at the same time (especially at the start) of any fight. For the best estimation you must use an AoE damage effect which hits all enemies before they are getting hit by any of your party members! How often can you achieve that? (btw. that's why there is even an option to disable "group damage monitoring in large groups" in some addons!)

Some addons trying to circumvent the restriction of the API with a "share dps" feature. In this case all the single player caclulations are thrown together by sending them to each other. Regarding the above example, if 3 of the 4 party members share their values, than they can estimate their dps in respect to all the enemies hit by these 3 players, but not by the 4th.

Shhh, wall of text, and that's why my first sentence will still be viable: "Most people will still ignore your fact! There is no addon which shows your exact group dps."

It an estimate, one based on the best data available. Most times when a group of 4 starts an AOE situations, both do are running AOE ablitys, if only wall/hail. Makes that estimate good enough to determine if the other dps is pulling their weight. Or you are.