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Account wide horse training
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Reevster✭✭✭✭✭there are too many people in this world who think that if they "suffered" so must everyone else.
but honestly personaly I would be happy if they let me train a horse more then once a day. but... it will not happen for as long as books are on crown store
but seriously.... account wide horse training would be fantastic, and I say that as someone who trained mounts for 13 characters the long way. it would be nice to be able to make alts and NOT have to wait at least a month before their movement speed is not a complete slooooooooow horror show.
Too many people in this world think that an honest days work is "Suffering"
It builds character and responsibility.
Something many now are lacking with the give me it for free mentality. -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭Androconium wrote: »Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »
I think it is just personality types. There are those that feel if it was hard for them it must be hard for everyone. You also have folks who just like grind and you don't get much more grind in this game than mount leveling. I suspect in the PvP world there is some competitiveness involved as faster mounts add to survival chances. Lastly you have groups that always say no to any suggested change just because. So the reaction you received does not really surprise me at all.
You think wrong.
It takes 6 months to develop all riding skills. It's about keeping you subscribed and spending money.
Before yes but if you have enough $ or gold in game you can instantly level your horses to all 60 in same hour of your character creation
It takes 6 months to develop all riding skills. It's about keeping you subscribed and or spending money. -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭Nope..
I know I am being petty, all of my characters are 60/60/60 even the level 20 ones, I trained them daily. It isn't that hard to do.Ras Kalik | Redguard - Templar | The Vestige, Ahkahtuz | Champion 1000+ | PS4/NA | ESO+ Cancelled | DC PVPPvP Combatants:
Aurik Siet'ka | Redguard - Necromancer
Cee Fôr | Redguard, Vampire - Nightblade
Cacique the Sage of Ius | Redguard - Warden
Jux Blackheart | Redguard, Lycan - Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell | Redguard - Dragonknight
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin | Reachman, Nord - Warden <No CP>
Movárth Piquine | Nord, Vampire - Necromancer <Tank/Support>
Kaotik Von Dae'mon | Breton half-Redguard* - Sorcerer <Healer/Support>
PvE Adventurers:
Herzog Zwei the Genesis | Breton - Templar <Healer>
Cinan Tharn | Imperial, Vampire - Dragonknight <Tank>
Tyrus Septim | Imperial - Sorcerer <Lightning/Shock Damage>
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar | Imperial - Dragonknight <Fire Damage>
mmoRPG personal lore:Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard Paladin and the wielder of Chrysamere; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. (not only Sai Sahan has a secret snowflake!) Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from undead, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being from Hammerfell, and a Redguard wields two massive swords in respect to the Ansei. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight.
Jux Blackheart a master thief that was frequenting the Sisters of the Sands inn for pilfering during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of this and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight and his greed. He lost two fingertips as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught...
Kaotik Von’Daemon is an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, a Breton monk and two Imperial soldiers. One of the Imperials claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (Ras Kalik's mentor in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn is really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son, that was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired battle-mage soldier and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn is also a master of disguise, and uses his disguises while he robs various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Tharn also runs an illegal gambling ring...
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a Breton and also a prominent monk of the Cult of the Ancestor Moth, was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Ancestor Moth cult worshippers wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure. Ras Kalik did indeed notice the sword however, and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Breton men have parted ways for now... While Ras Kalik is off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little does Kalik know a few people are awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The one known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons, is awaiting his arrival also.
The journey to Senchal will also put him on a path to meet a strange man which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is only known as "the member C-4", as he gave up his born name when joining the cult. Cee Fôr is on a path to spread the disease as he was infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Cee For know, the infection is tied to Vampirism, but eventually the need for blood, will take over.
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected) within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in the Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar - grandfather of Silus Vesuius.
Uri Ice-Heart - twin of Urfon Ice-Heart. Twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart that are originally from Markarth but are now residing on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, their younger sister Araki has also relocated but she is in Windhelm currently. The twins joined the Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed east to Hammerfell with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri sent his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety to avoid the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. (but he doesn't know his sister has moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild). After hearing of Urfon's death... Uri left the Reach and is seeking vengeance. -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭there are too many people in this world who think that if they "suffered" so must everyone else.
but honestly personaly I would be happy if they let me train a horse more then once a day. but... it will not happen for as long as books are on crown store
but seriously.... account wide horse training would be fantastic, and I say that as someone who trained mounts for 13 characters the long way. it would be nice to be able to make alts and NOT have to wait at least a month before their movement speed is not a complete slooooooooow horror show.
Too many people in this world think that an honest days work is "Suffering"
It builds character and responsibility.
Something many now are lacking with the give me it for free mentality.
yes, because logging in once a day to click on a vendor is "hones days work"
please.
this is a time sink. its a relic of a long gone mechanic that is ONLY kept in game to sell crown store lessons.
builds character and responsibility ffs.... you know what builds character and responsibility? making a meal for yourself and then washing dishes afterwards - for a top of my head example. going to a vendor once a day? AINT IT.
its not difficult. its a waste of time.Edited by Linaleah on April 13, 2019 10:54PMdirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the *** -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Peversely I actually quite like that it takes time to train our horses.
Probably the stablehand in me. That year of my life taught me a lot, above all else, patience. Essential for dealing with two stallions LOL.
Yep. Long time horsewoman here.... Sad that our boys got old and died, and now we're too old to deal with horses ourselves any more anyway - but we had nearly 25 years of fun with our two. The stories go on forever....
And I don't mind the mount training - nearly all done on my main account with 15 toons (have let carry capacity slide a bit during events), and second account is all over the place as I created toons over the first couple of months, not all at once. I log into every one every day in any case, so training isn't really a major issue for me. -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I asked a few of my guilds if they would be bothered if in a latest update, ZoS introduced account wide horse training, and there was an OVERWHELMING YES. So many people would hate this idea, and I don’t know why. Maybe it gives them something to keep coming back to.
Only thing I might know, is it’ll never happen even if developers were so inclined, I guess it would make too many people angry.
What’s your thoughts on this? Stay or go?
Really? I've never heard anyone celebrating how slow their horse was? Is this a masochists guild? -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »Nope..
I know I am being petty, all of my characters are 60/60/60 even the level 20 ones, I trained them daily. It isn't that hard to do.
You can only train one skill at a time (per character). 60 (20hour) days for each skill = 180 days. Ergo, 6 months.
It isn't hard. just time consuming -
Cathexis✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think they should remove speed, and fold a small amount of speed (like very small) into stamina training, and then add an alternative third option. I do not think they should make it account wide.
Why? Mount training is easy, it is basically instant, and it provides a certain baseline of character maintenance activity. It is a nice way to find a reason to build routines into your character development.
I do however, think that the value of speed over stamina or bag space is dramatically overvalued. You pretty much always want speed first, like 95% of the time. High speed is necessary to PvP and moving between content you want to enjoy. It's proportional value is so much higher (as it should justifiably be, I do not think they should nerf mount speed).
So tldr, do I think they should make mount training account wide? No. Do I think they need to adjust the proportional value of mount training to adequately reflect a minimal, routine, per character time investment? Yes.The Tomb of FPS Alteration Magic - Everything You Need to Know About FPS
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Praise Malacath. -
ZirconJunkie✭✭✭✭Just let me buy a pre-trained horse for 50,000 gold. The 6 month grind to max out a horse on a new character is antiquated and silly. -
NorthernNightmare✭✭✭✭✭theres a difference between having it separate for role playing reasons
and then theres making it seperate to try and get as much money as possible
I wonder what this is
