Why would you start a round with uneven number of players?

techprince

To the developers, why would you start a round when all three teams DO NOT have the same number of players? often a team or two will not get their 4th player and the remaining team having 4 players just steamrolls them.

Grimlok_S

I see 2v3v4 fairly often. It's frustrating.

Things usually even out 3v3v4 by the 4 minute mark, with full teams by the 6 minute mark.

Those first few minutes can decide the game, though. I'd rather wait for a full lobby than start short-handed against prepared teams.

techprince

Grimlok_S wrote: »

I see 2v3v4 fairly often. It's frustrating.

Things usually even out 3v3v4 by the 4 minute mark, with full teams by the 6 minute mark.

Those first few minutes can decide the game, though. I'd rather wait for a full lobby than start short-handed against prepared teams.

Every alternate BG, i see 1 or 2 teams with less players till the end. They never get their 3rd or 4th player.

Iskiab

I see that too. I also see people decline BGs a lot so the queue doesn’t start.

Is this a player or game issue?

MurderMostFoul

It's an issue on Xbox NA, but not all the time. Frankly, I prefer matches to start sooner and just deal with having uneven teams sometimes over having to wait longer.

I've been in plenty of games where we start short-handed, fill up after a few minutes, and wind up winning. The advantage is not insurmountable.

techprince

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

It's an issue on Xbox NA, but not all the time. Frankly, I prefer matches to start sooner and just deal with having uneven teams sometimes over having to wait longer.

I've been in plenty of games where we start short-handed, fill up after a few minutes, and wind up winning. The advantage is not insurmountable.

Only if the queue actually fills the 4th player slot. This does not happen most of the times. 4th slot remains empty till the end. This is a bad game design.

brandonv516

Saw a match start earlier with 1v3v4...

That is wrong.

techprince

How BS is this, 3 vs 4 vs 4 in Capture the Relic. Do you really expect to defend and capture against 2 teams with 3 people? 4th player joined when score was 400-100-0. This is fked up.
Battlegrounds is 4 vs 4 vs 4. Untill you get 12 players, round should not start. Period.

ruikkarikun

Hello. Damn you understand this only now?:)
Very often I have matches when my team have -1 player. As a result is 3 vs 4 vs 4.
But hey, look ppl don't care and zos too.

NordSwordnBoard

Sometimes I stay and hope we get a full team, sometimes I take the quitter penalty out of spite and go do something else. I didn't buy Morrowind for 2v3v4 content.

The timer should not begin until it's 12 players.

Imagine if dungeon finder loaded you in with only 2 total players and began the dungeon on a timer. Is it worth the effort to make the broken thing "work"?

oxygen_thief

because they don't care. you need to queue to login then press f button about an hour to get into a broken lobby. this game is a bad joke.

Iskiab

I don’t like being short handed all game either. One thing I’ve noticed that’s odd is when people leave a BG they get replaced very quickly, usually with a better player. Makes me think there are people available but for some reason they aren’t being put in the game.

I think every time someone’s left a BG I was in we’ve ended up winning too. I think it pulls players from higher MMR or something.

techprince

Again and again and again and again. This never ends.

Haojin

cant believe zos not handling this *** at least 1+ year now.

Rizz_the_Filthy_Dino

I always ask, "If the queue pop succeeded with 12 players accepting it, why is the match starting with 3 out of 4 players?!"

ThanatosXR

Only time were I cannot believe im saying this but CoD does it best, there shouldnt be a deserter penalty at all, the game just counts as a loss, match bonus/daily xp forfit, we also need it changed to score based to take into account healing, tactical, team based play instead of just K/D/Assists. Add CoD scoring, game setup with Halo medals and announcer

Goregrinder

It's a nice way to test 1vX builds, ends up being good practice.

max_only

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/425015/hey-the-match-shouldn-t-start-until-every-team-has-4-people

idk

Zos devs - Reads this thread. One sits back and laughs. Says to the others - they do not know how lucky they are the GF even formed part of a group without messed up the GF is.

Probably be better with a graphic of Matt or someone, but I am tired.