Is divines worth it for pvp?

Lycanx12

I Have been running divines since I bought this game in 2016. And I have all armor (6-7) in divines with weapon damage increase boon “the warrior”, and still can’t beat end game players with it)

CompM4s

Use another trait

Unless you are a bomber

NirnStorm

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Critical damage in PvP environment is the real problem. Surviving damage that is basically doubled when getting attacked by several players usually results in you getting deded in a matter of seconds. That is why the vast majority of players in PvP use mainly the Impenetrable trait.
Then, with decent resists and a lot of crit resist, you can start using damage oriented sets and builds and try to be as damaging as possible without being squish, and actually kill players.

The notable exceptions to this concept are block builds- which tend to use sturdy since they block a lot meaning cutting off inc. damage by roughly 50%, and specific unique builds that focus on damage and have other way to mitigate damage (like gank builds).

While you don't HAVE to use impen, it's been the meta since the early days thanks to it's effectiveness that allows you to spec the rest of your build to damage.

Reverb

Use another trait

If you’re a bomber or a ganker go with all divines. Otherwise it’s a bad idea.

Knootewoot

I use 2-3 divines for damage increase

I only have it on my belt and gloves. Rest is impen.

EdoKeledus

Yes it’s worth it

Use Impregnable and it will be fine

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Impregnable+Armor+Set

Lycanx12

I’m planning on using 4 pieces of impenetrable,
2 pieces of invigorating,1 piece of well fitted
For my Stam nightblade and boom the warrior. I use 2h weapon sword and DW.
Not trying to use bow (I don’t like it)
Not trying to be a ganker. Just a player that wants to kill at least 2-3 players before I die from a 4th or Zerg

Alucardo

Use another trait

EdoKeledus wrote: »

Use Impregnable and it will be fine

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Impregnable+Armor+Set

I still run impen with impreg. 100% critical resistance is 6k I believe, and I'm sitting at 5.4k. I used to think 3k was enough, but I don't think I'll drop below 4k, at the very least, ever again. The difference was just too noticeable.
Nightblades won't be as much of an issue when they jump out at you from cloak, or you take that initial unsuspecting snipe crit. Damage over time crits won't be much higher than regular ones.
There's no escaping impen, even when you're using impregnable

KurtAngle2

Alucardo wrote: »

EdoKeledus wrote: »

Use Impregnable and it will be fine

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Impregnable+Armor+Set

I still run impen with impreg. 100% critical resistance is 6k I believe, and I'm sitting at 5.4k. I used to think 3k was enough, but I don't think I'll drop below 4k, at the very least, ever again. The difference was just too noticeable.
Nightblades won't be as much of an issue when they jump out at you from cloak, or you take that initial unsuspecting snipe crit. Damage over time crits won't be much higher than regular ones.
There's no escaping impen, even when you're using impregnable

Completely overkill, I bet you got it no damage at all

Alucardo

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KurtAngle2 wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

EdoKeledus wrote: »

Use Impregnable and it will be fine

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Impregnable+Armor+Set

I still run impen with impreg. 100% critical resistance is 6k I believe, and I'm sitting at 5.4k. I used to think 3k was enough, but I don't think I'll drop below 4k, at the very least, ever again. The difference was just too noticeable.
Nightblades won't be as much of an issue when they jump out at you from cloak, or you take that initial unsuspecting snipe crit. Damage over time crits won't be much higher than regular ones.
There's no escaping impen, even when you're using impregnable

Completely overkill, I bet you got it no damage at all

No damage just because I'm running one defensive set? How long have you been playing this game exactly?

Iskiab

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Always impenetrable, it’s a math thing. Mundus stone damage increases are small in general, the penetration one that dps use is about 3% extra damage or so, the weapon damage one is less unless you’re in a 7 medium build I’d imagine.

If you make a trade for 3% extra damage but take 10% or whatever extra damage (depends on your opponent, but to illustrate I’m using someone who runs no crit at all) you’re going to have no survivability and lose any 1v1.

I play no-CP so don’t run impregnable armour. With the vulnerability changes I’m doubtful even perma blockers would be better off using something else since you can no longer block extra damage from vulnerabilities.

Merlight

Lycanx12 wrote: »

I’m planning on using 4 pieces of impenetrable,
2 pieces of invigorating,1 piece of well fitted
For my Stam nightblade and boom the warrior. I use 2h weapon sword and DW.
Not trying to use bow (I don’t like it)
Not trying to be a ganker. Just a player that wants to kill at least 2-3 players before I die from a 4th or Zerg

Invigorating is worthless. Personally I use Reinforced on 1-2 pieces (at least upper body), Impenetrable on the rest.

Iskiab

Use another trait

Merlight wrote: »

Lycanx12 wrote: »

I’m planning on using 4 pieces of impenetrable,
2 pieces of invigorating,1 piece of well fitted
For my Stam nightblade and boom the warrior. I use 2h weapon sword and DW.
Not trying to use bow (I don’t like it)
Not trying to be a ganker. Just a player that wants to kill at least 2-3 players before I die from a 4th or Zerg

Invigorating is worthless. Personally I use Reinforced on 1-2 pieces (at least upper body), Impenetrable on the rest.

Why not all impenetrable and add a protective ring? You’ll get about triple the bang for your buck.

Merlight

Iskiab wrote: »

Merlight wrote: »

Lycanx12 wrote: »

I’m planning on using 4 pieces of impenetrable,
2 pieces of invigorating,1 piece of well fitted
For my Stam nightblade and boom the warrior. I use 2h weapon sword and DW.
Not trying to use bow (I don’t like it)
Not trying to be a ganker. Just a player that wants to kill at least 2-3 players before I die from a 4th or Zerg

Invigorating is worthless. Personally I use Reinforced on 1-2 pieces (at least upper body), Impenetrable on the rest.

Why not all impenetrable and add a protective ring? You’ll get about triple the bang for your buck.

Haven't found a working jeweller table yet.

Sheuib

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I use 4 impen and 3 well fitted. I tend to dodge roll a lot.

oxygen_thief

Yes it’s worth it

it depends on your build and a type of pvp. we have 4 or even 5 types of it which clueless zos are trying to balance at once

Asmael

Use another trait

The reason it's so widely used in PvE is that it's the only serious option for damage dealing (the other would be Invigorating. Hopefully I don't need to explain why it would be a terribad trait there).

Between 1806 critical resist or 125 WD/SP, mag/stam/HP regen... The choice is clear. 1806 critical resist is almost as much as Impregnable's 5-piece, 125 of some stats is less than a single 2-4p set bonus. Stat-wise, Divines is a clear loss.

VaranisArano

If you want to run a pure glass cannon build (like a bomber or a one-hit-kill ganker), then Divines might be appropriate. You'll still have to pull off the attack properly, but the extra damage is a good boost.

But if you actually intend to fight other players and not die as soon as they attack you...I would not recommend Divines.

As the others have said, Impen for crit resists and possibly a few pieces of Infused on large armor pieces if you need more resources or Well-Fitted if you need to dodge roll.

NirnStorm

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Lycanx12 wrote: »

I’m planning on using 4 pieces of impenetrable,
2 pieces of invigorating,1 piece of well fitted
For my Stam nightblade and boom the warrior. I use 2h weapon sword and DW.
Not trying to use bow (I don’t like it)
Not trying to be a ganker. Just a player that wants to kill at least 2-3 players before I die from a 4th or Zerg

Do yourself a favor and don't use invigorating. It gives you 7 regen. Not % based- 7. Might as well not use any trait

Marcus684

NirnStorm wrote: »

Lycanx12 wrote: »

I’m planning on using 4 pieces of impenetrable,
2 pieces of invigorating,1 piece of well fitted
For my Stam nightblade and boom the warrior. I use 2h weapon sword and DW.
Not trying to use bow (I don’t like it)
Not trying to be a ganker. Just a player that wants to kill at least 2-3 players before I die from a 4th or Zerg

Do yourself a favor and don't use invigorating. It gives you 7 regen. Not % based- 7. Might as well not use any trait

Funny how ZOS took a marginally useful trait (Prosperous) and replaced it with a useless one (Invigorating). Has anyone ever found a way to make this trait useful?

Brrrofski

Use another trait

Nah, not at all.

Impen on as much as you can. Maybe 1-2 bits well fitted on a Stam build

Marcus684

I run several pieces of Divines when I take my PvE magsorc into Cyrodiil to zerg surf. He does pretty well, but also gets blown up in 1 second flat by a good gankblade. Play how you want, but be prepared to suffer the consequences.

idk

Inpen is the way to go for damage reduction.

Case on point is I cannot recall the last tome a ganker killed me. Granted most of the gankers that have attacked me for well over a year are either inexperienced, using macros or both. They hit me with one burst and never follow up for a kill shot.

The inpen probably playes a role in my survival then I switch to my NB/ganker killer build and hunt them down.

Of course it’s not like the old days where gankers thought things through and tactically worked to cut off enemy players joining the battle. Now they mostly fight at keeps.

VaranisArano

Marcus684 wrote: »

NirnStorm wrote: »

Lycanx12 wrote: »

I’m planning on using 4 pieces of impenetrable,
2 pieces of invigorating,1 piece of well fitted
For my Stam nightblade and boom the warrior. I use 2h weapon sword and DW.
Not trying to use bow (I don’t like it)
Not trying to be a ganker. Just a player that wants to kill at least 2-3 players before I die from a 4th or Zerg

Do yourself a favor and don't use invigorating. It gives you 7 regen. Not % based- 7. Might as well not use any trait

Funny how ZOS took a marginally useful trait (Prosperous) and replaced it with a useless one (Invigorating). Has anyone ever found a way to make this trait useful?

Prosperous wasnt even that useful, as you made less gold from farming than you would save from wearing impen to cut your armor repair costs.

Lycanx12

Ok does anyone use nirn for spell and psychical penetration? I’ll just use infused, well fitted and impenetrable

JumpmanLane

I forgot where I hotkeyed some builds in dressing room and ran around yesterday in all divines and it went well. Sorta. I killed a bunch of folks; but I’d be fighting someone 1v1 and it was like they just hit me with SOMETHING and my health melted lol.

I messaged 1 or 2 folks that got me and I was like “dude, what are you running”. They told me and I was like wtf. Then I checked and I was in all divines lmao.

You could run head chest legs anything the rest impen; but you’d be better off running infused instead of divines.

Minno

Marcus684 wrote: »

NirnStorm wrote: »

Lycanx12 wrote: »

I’m planning on using 4 pieces of impenetrable,
2 pieces of invigorating,1 piece of well fitted
For my Stam nightblade and boom the warrior. I use 2h weapon sword and DW.
Not trying to use bow (I don’t like it)
Not trying to be a ganker. Just a player that wants to kill at least 2-3 players before I die from a 4th or Zerg

Do yourself a favor and don't use invigorating. It gives you 7 regen. Not % based- 7. Might as well not use any trait

Funny how ZOS took a marginally useful trait (Prosperous) and replaced it with a useless one (Invigorating). Has anyone ever found a way to make this trait useful?

Yes, it's useful until I transmute it to impen lol

fred4

Use another trait

Pretty much the only case where Divines might be worth it is if you were wearing Twice Born Star + Impregnable.

DTStormfox

Use another trait

Impen is the best option
Reinforced is also good for on the big pieces
Well-fitted even would be better than devines.

juhislihis19

Use another trait

Unless you are a bomber or a troll sniper/ganker, then NO.

Basically, if you do not care about getting killed 5s after being seen, then divines is OK.

Otherwise, use Impenetrable because CRITS will kill.

TheBonesXXX

minimally 2k impen and that's risking it.