Necromancer no Lich Ult?????
PandaPalace
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Why necero turn into a Colossal? I get that for tank but from lore point the goal was become a Lich, why not have a moph to become a Lich??!!!! Idk how/who to tag
Edited by PandaPalace on April 6, 2019 3:04PM 2
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PandaPalace✭✭✭necromancer is not lich
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Necromancy#The_Path_of_Lichdom
Relatively few necromancers have succeeded in turning themselves into liches, but many of them believe that achieving a state of lichdom is the ultimate goal of necromancy. Scholarly works and folk tales alike speculate on how one might become a lich. There is only one path which is somewhat well-known, and even then, most details remain well-hidden.Edited by PandaPalace on April 6, 2019 3:40PM5 -
Vizikul✭✭✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »
but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.Pugging. Pugging all the way to victory.Imperial Dragonknight --- male, stamina, heavy & medium armor, dual wield, one hand and shield, two handed.
Breton Templar --- female, magicka, light armor, restoration staff.
Redguard Warden --- female, stamina, medium armor, bow.
Breton Sorcerer --- male, magicka, light armor, destruction staff.
Imperial Templar --- male, stamina, medium armor, two handed.
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »
It is a necro class. Not a lich class. Also, as Visikul pointed out, ults have short durations. Being a lich is rather permanent.
Edited by idk on April 6, 2019 3:48PM2 -
PandaPalace✭✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »
but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.
Same can be said for Colossus. They didn't want necro to have permanent pets because necromancy is difficult magic, they could've gave a ult were they "almost" become full Lich but it not mastered yet so won't last long.Edited by PandaPalace on April 6, 2019 4:01PM2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »
but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.
Same can be said for Colossus. They didn't want necro to have permanent pets because necromancy is difficult magic, they could've gave a ult were they "almost" become full Lich but it not mastered yet so won't last long.
Do you know what a lich is?6 -
SilverIce58✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »
but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.
Same can be said for Colossus. They didn't want necro to have permanent pets because necromancy is difficult magic, they could've gave a ult were they "almost" become full Lich but it not mastered yet so won't last long.
No the same cannot be said for colossus. Changing form into the Colossus can be considered a type of power illusion or alteration magic. To change into a lich is completely different than changing into a Colossus.PC - NACP 1125
Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
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PandaPalace✭✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »
but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.
Same can be said for Colossus. They didn't want necro to have permanent pets because necromancy is difficult magic, they could've gave a ult were they "almost" become full Lich but it not mastered yet so won't last long.
Do you know what a lich is?
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Necromancy#The_Path_of_Lichdom0 -
exeeter702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »
but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.
Same can be said for Colossus. They didn't want necro to have permanent pets because necromancy is difficult magic, they could've gave a ult were they "almost" become full Lich but it not mastered yet so won't last long.
Do you know what a lich is?
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Necromancy#The_Path_of_Lichdom
Thats nice.
The point still stands.3 -
SilverIce58✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »
but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.
Same can be said for Colossus. They didn't want necro to have permanent pets because necromancy is difficult magic, they could've gave a ult were they "almost" become full Lich but it not mastered yet so won't last long.
Do you know what a lich is?
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Necromancy#The_Path_of_Lichdom
Did you even read the whole thing? To become a lich, you've got to put your soul in a physical item, and once its out of the body, thats it. That's definitely not something you can do for an ult.PC - NACP 1125
Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC2 -
rei91✭✭✭You do understand that becoming a lich is basically achieving an afterlive through dying via complex rituals, right? How can it possibly be achieved at will, multiple times and just for 30 seconds? =\
A not-curable but powerful lich skill-line (i mean after you become a lich you can't return back) would be interesting though.0 -
rei91✭✭✭Oh, I just realised - Vestige can't possibly become a lich because he or she, well, have no soul)) wouldn't work...4
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Commancho✭✭✭✭✭ESO is just hack & slash MMO, please don't argue here about TES's lore, because it's ridiculus! ;D3
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »PandaPalace wrote: »
but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.
Same can be said for Colossus. They didn't want necro to have permanent pets because necromancy is difficult magic, they could've gave a ult were they "almost" become full Lich but it not mastered yet so won't last long.
Do you know what a lich is?
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Necromancy#The_Path_of_Lichdom
Glad you can provide a link to it. I suggest you read it and understand it a little better. Then you will know it is not a temporary change that one can just be a lich for 30 second, then return to their normal state..Once the transference is complete and the necromancer's soul has left his body, the ascension to lichdom is completed, and the physical object holding the soul becomes inconsequential
The above is to help. There is no indication the process can be reversed.Edited by idk on April 6, 2019 6:55PM2 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well lore wise a lich would be darn OP
- correct me if I'm wrong, but they're essentially damn near immortal
Anyway.... I'm cool with it, in CP PvE you might as well consider yourself a lich as everything is a field of souls for your harvest1 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lichdom? Sure, im done to preforming an overly convoluted ritual that has already a extremely long process of torturing 4 mortal man/mer souls and once in the worst possible ways and hope that i dont get interrupted at any moment or explode into a fire magical ball of death.
500 ult.
Cast time 25mins
Self / 12 meters
Sacrifices either three of your group members or three other man/mer enemies with in 3meters of your current humanoid foes to become a lich.
If interrupted at any moment during the cast time will result in permanent death of all characters involved destroying them and everything they have on them and in their bags.
If ritual is successful, archer/mage, mender and blast bones will last until killed or unsummoned.
Gotta keep it lore friendly and balanced right?
Im ready for this.
We're getting Lich in here, so why dont you give me all your souls - R.SkellyEdited by StormeReigns on April 6, 2019 8:34PM2 -
Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭but it's not supposed to be a temporary thing like a 30 seconds transformation. Once you made it to become a Lich, you can't transform back, which is why a Lich transformation Ultimate ability makes no sense.
They've told us that the bone goliath "transformation" isn't really a transformation. It's an illusion.
So a lich transformation illusion would make literally as much sense as the goliath one.1
