Is it a bug that Selene's doesn't proc with flurry?

donmuerte

Is it a bug that Selene's doesn't proc with flurry? Seems like it's obviously a direct melee attack, but it just won't proc with it.

SpringEternal

IIRC, Flurry is considered a channeling attack. So not a bug, even though it seems counter-intuitive.

redspecter23

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

donmuerte

ah. channeled. well, that's disappointing. it also seems ridiculous that steel tornado procs it.

donmuerte

I guess I'll just have to make sure I get my lights in between channels. Thanks guys!

SaintSubwayy

Doesnt mean that flurry aint bugged!
Its szill not considered as meeledmg, and will therefor not proc sets tied to meeledmg.

MaxJrFTW

Flurry doesn't count as melee dmg. As stupid as that sounds, that's how zos rolls.

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

Flurry doesn't proc ravager, and ravager just requires melee dmg. Guess what though? Jabs can proc ravager, and jabs is also a channel. A lot of people also claim that only the initial hit from jabs can proc it. That's not true, any hit can.

Flurry is just bugged and they refuse to fix it.

Alucardo

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

So how do stamplars proc Ravager (also melee) with jabs? This is also considered a DoT as thaumaturge buffs it

SaintSubwayy

Alucardo wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

So how do stamplars proc Ravager (also melee) with jabs? This is also considered a DoT as thaumaturge buffs it

Ravager procs from meeledmg...which jabs are

nothing to do with either channel or dot...

the term "Meeledmg" only takes the Range of skills into account (range, or meele)
while DOT defines the type of DMG (DOT or DirectDMG)
Channel is how the skill is fired (Channel or instandcast)

MaxJrFTW

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

So how do stamplars proc Ravager (also melee) with jabs? This is also considered a DoT as thaumaturge buffs it

Ravager procs from meeledmg...which jabs are

nothing to do with either channel or dot...

the term "Meeledmg" only takes the Range of skills into account (range, or meele)
while DOT defines the type of DMG (DOT or DirectDMG)
Channel is how the skill is fired (Channel or instandcast)

Except jabs is both a channel and a dot.

Ravager is also supposed to proc from any melee dmg.

Flurry is obviously a melee attack but it doesn't count as one, therefore it's bugged...

SaintSubwayy

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Flurry doesn't count as melee dmg. As stupid as that sounds, that's how zos rolls.

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

Flurry doesn't proc ravager, and ravager just requires melee dmg. Guess what though? Jabs can proc ravager, and jabs is also a channel. A lot of people also claim that only the initial hit from jabs can proc it. That's not true, any hit can.

Flurry is just bugged and they refuse to fix it.

tha major problem of the skill jeah...they shoul dmake it meeledmg, and flurry will finally be in a viable spot again. (still keeping the approx 20% dmg buff planned for EW)

SaintSubwayy

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

So how do stamplars proc Ravager (also melee) with jabs? This is also considered a DoT as thaumaturge buffs it

Ravager procs from meeledmg...which jabs are

nothing to do with either channel or dot...

the term "Meeledmg" only takes the Range of skills into account (range, or meele)
while DOT defines the type of DMG (DOT or DirectDMG)
Channel is how the skill is fired (Channel or instandcast)

Except ravager is both a channel and a dot.

Ravager is also supposed to proc from any melee dmg.

Flurry is obviously a melee attack but it doesn't count as one, therefore it's bugged...

ehm whut?

Ravager is a set, not a skill...unless you mixed something up^^

if you meant jabs then jeah...but I never said that a skill cant be both, or even all three of those different "Types"...
like jabs -> meele, channel, DOT

Alucardo

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

So how do stamplars proc Ravager (also melee) with jabs? This is also considered a DoT as thaumaturge buffs it

Ravager procs from meeledmg...which jabs are

nothing to do with either channel or dot...

the term "Meeledmg" only takes the Range of skills into account (range, or meele)
while DOT defines the type of DMG (DOT or DirectDMG)
Channel is how the skill is fired (Channel or instandcast)

Except jabs is both a channel and a dot.

Ravager is also supposed to proc from any melee dmg.

Flurry is obviously a melee attack but it doesn't count as one, therefore it's bugged...

This is pretty much what I was getting at. Flurry is basically a weak version of jabs, so they should be able to proc the same sets

SaintSubwayy

Alucardo wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

So how do stamplars proc Ravager (also melee) with jabs? This is also considered a DoT as thaumaturge buffs it

Ravager procs from meeledmg...which jabs are

nothing to do with either channel or dot...

the term "Meeledmg" only takes the Range of skills into account (range, or meele)
while DOT defines the type of DMG (DOT or DirectDMG)
Channel is how the skill is fired (Channel or instandcast)

Except jabs is both a channel and a dot.

Ravager is also supposed to proc from any melee dmg.

Flurry is obviously a melee attack but it doesn't count as one, therefore it's bugged...

This is pretty much what I was getting at. Flurry is basically a weak version of jabs, so they should be able to proc the same sets

yes, but it will very likely get buffed with Elsweyr.
Atleast it slipped after the NDA was lifted, that FLurry should get a 20% dmg increase

sadly thats not enough, since its still not considered as meeledmg, and therefor cannot proc sets that require the dmg to be meele.
Furthermore the cost is still insane on this skill, it should be reduced by 20% aswell...then we might have a great skill once again.


Jabs will probably always remain stronger, dut to the Burning Light passive beeing able to proc from Jabs
But thats fine....flurry would only be needed on stamDK and Stamsorc anyways, since those are the only Classes with no class spammable for stamina.

Alucardo

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Direct in this context means a non dot ability. Flurry counts as a damage over time and as such, will not trigger abilities that require a direct attack.

So how do stamplars proc Ravager (also melee) with jabs? This is also considered a DoT as thaumaturge buffs it

Ravager procs from meeledmg...which jabs are

nothing to do with either channel or dot...

the term "Meeledmg" only takes the Range of skills into account (range, or meele)
while DOT defines the type of DMG (DOT or DirectDMG)
Channel is how the skill is fired (Channel or instandcast)

Except jabs is both a channel and a dot.

Ravager is also supposed to proc from any melee dmg.

Flurry is obviously a melee attack but it doesn't count as one, therefore it's bugged...

This is pretty much what I was getting at. Flurry is basically a weak version of jabs, so they should be able to proc the same sets

yes, but it will very likely get buffed with Elsweyr.
Atleast it slipped after the NDA was lifted, that FLurry should get a 20% dmg increase

sadly thats not enough, since its still not considered as meeledmg, and therefor cannot proc sets that require the dmg to be meele.
Furthermore the cost is still insane on this skill, it should be reduced by 20% aswell...then we might have a great skill once again.

They would be super welcome buffs. Maybe once they do that they'll flip a switch and flag it as melee, if we're lucky. Although it's a channel, you still have to be within melee distance, so you should get all the benefits that entails.