Buff 1h pls.

russelmmendoza

You nerf the damage and enchant for 1h because its not fair to 2h.

But to make it fair, buff the attack/swing speed of 1h, because 1h should be faster than 2h.

This should put things in balance. Maybe 2x speed on 1h would be enough.

Kulvar

It would be too fast and make 1H feel like toys you wave.
Showing the weight of the metal is important to give a feeling of effectiveness.

DocFrost72

How do you propose reworking the entire way cooldowns function in this game?

russelmmendoza

X2 swing speed is enough to balance that damage nerf to 1h. I'll take x1.5 if x2 swing is a bit too much for the global icd.
The weight of 1h is lesser than 2h or am I wrong on this one.
As for the global icd, it should remain the same. Just give the 1h weapons speed buff on its passive skill, both the dw and snb.

Strider__Roshin

2H still needs to catch up. Why buff what's BiS?

ShadowKyuubi

Daus wrote: »

2H still needs to catch up. Why buff what's BiS?

Two Handers are actually catching up, especially on the classes that don't have an execute, like stamsorcs. Now, will they ever overcome DW daggers? No, but you can get pretty darn close.

Siohwenoeht

russelmmendoza wrote: »

X2 swing speed is enough to balance that damage nerf to 1h. I'll take x1.5 if x2 swing is a bit too much for the global icd.
The weight of 1h is lesser than 2h or am I wrong on this one.
As for the global icd, it should remain the same. Just give the 1h weapons speed buff on its passive skill, both the dw and snb.

But skills and light attacks have separate 1 sec cooldowns so for "faster" attacks, other than animation, they'd have to reduce the cooldown for la's. Can't imagine they'd do that.

Alucardo

ShadowKyuubi wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

2H still needs to catch up. Why buff what's BiS?

Two Handers are actually catching up, especially on the classes that don't have an execute

Tell that to the guys spinning around like helicopters in Cyrodiil with steel tornado. The only thing they use 2h for is forward momentum. Why take a slow dodgeable, up close execute, when you can use an AOE with a larger radius that can't be dodged.

John_Falstaff

Alucardo wrote: »

ShadowKyuubi wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

2H still needs to catch up. Why buff what's BiS?

Two Handers are actually catching up, especially on the classes that don't have an execute

Tell that to the guys spinning around like helicopters in Cyrodiil with steel tornado. The only thing they use 2h for is forward momentum. Why take a slow dodgeable, up close execute, when you can use an AOE with a larger radius that can't be dodged.

Just as an aside, I think that it's almost obsolete, no? Still early to say, but apparently Tornado is losing its execute feature in the next update.

Grianasteri

russelmmendoza wrote: »

You nerf the damage and enchant for 1h because its not fair to 2h.

But to make it fair, buff the attack/swing speed of 1h, because 1h should be faster than 2h.

This should put things in balance. Maybe 2x speed on 1h would be enough.

1h is significantly faster than 2h. No buff is required in my opinion.

NordSwordnBoard

Make a passive for 1h&shield that gives your enchantment full (2h) power.

InvictusApollo

This isn't Skyrim (sadly). Changing LA speed would go against global cooldowns. I don't see this idea to be viable unless OP is talking about HA speed.

idk

OP says acknowledges they nerfed 1H because it was not fair (balanced) with 2H but then asks to buff 1H which would make it unbalanced again. It does not make sense.

ShadowKyuubi

Alucardo wrote: »

ShadowKyuubi wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

2H still needs to catch up. Why buff what's BiS?

Two Handers are actually catching up, especially on the classes that don't have an execute

Tell that to the guys spinning around like helicopters in Cyrodiil with steel tornado. The only thing they use 2h for is forward momentum. Why take a slow dodgeable, up close execute, when you can use an AOE with a larger radius that can't be dodged.

I was referring more to PvE and single target. But yes, steel tornado is a nice execute ability in PvP.

Davadin

no.

buff 2H first so they're on par, then we'll talk.

Davadin

russelmmendoza wrote: »

You nerf the damage and enchant for 1h because its not fair to 2h.

But to make it fair, buff the attack/swing speed of 1h, because 1h should be faster than 2h.

This should put things in balance. Maybe 2x speed on 1h would be enough.

1H is already faster than 2H. light and heavy attacks already faster than 2H.

are u asking that if im on 1HS or DW that it'll speed up my skills time too?

GTFO

russelmmendoza

Davadin wrote: »

russelmmendoza wrote: »

You nerf the damage and enchant for 1h because its not fair to 2h.

But to make it fair, buff the attack/swing speed of 1h, because 1h should be faster than 2h.

This should put things in balance. Maybe 2x speed on 1h would be enough.

1H is already faster than 2H. light and heavy attacks already faster than 2H.

are u asking that if im on 1HS or DW that it'll speed up my skills time too?

GTFO

YOU GET THE BLEEP OFF!!!

THEY NERF THE DAMAGE AND ENCHANT FOR DW. FOR THE SAKE OF BALANCE.
ITS NOT BALANCE, BUFF ATTACK SPEED ON DW, SO I CAN DO THE SAME DAMGE ON DW WHEN IT WASNT NERF.

HENCE, FOR BALANCE, GIVE DW 2X ATTACK SPEED OF 2H.

LET ME SWING MY DW 2X BEFORE HE CAN LAND A SINGLE 2H SWING.

FOR BALANCE AND ALL THAT.

russelmmendoza

idk wrote: »

OP says acknowledges they nerfed 1H because it was not fair (balanced) with 2H but then asks to buff 1H which would make it unbalanced again. It does not make sense.

I acknowledge they did for balance, is it balance no.

Give dw a 2x or 1.5x attack speed to make it balance.

DarkerDreams

Lol, I always love when I see people mention balance in any mmo. Balance is a myth companies perpetuate so that they can keep constantly moving the bar. It keeps people playing more when they have to keep changing their builds , learn new rotations, farm new gear. That's why it's a never ending process that constantly changes direction.

DocFrost72

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

russelmmendoza wrote: »

You nerf the damage and enchant for 1h because its not fair to 2h.

But to make it fair, buff the attack/swing speed of 1h, because 1h should be faster than 2h.

This should put things in balance. Maybe 2x speed on 1h would be enough.

1H is already faster than 2H. light and heavy attacks already faster than 2H.

are u asking that if im on 1HS or DW that it'll speed up my skills time too?

GTFO

YOU GET THE BLEEP OFF!!!

THEY NERF THE DAMAGE AND ENCHANT FOR DW. FOR THE SAKE OF BALANCE.
ITS NOT BALANCE, BUFF ATTACK SPEED ON DW, SO I CAN DO THE SAME DAMGE ON DW WHEN IT WASNT NERF.

HENCE, FOR BALANCE, GIVE DW 2X ATTACK SPEED OF 2H.

LET ME SWING MY DW 2X BEFORE HE CAN LAND A SINGLE 2H SWING.

FOR BALANCE AND ALL THAT.

There's a mythical button on the left side of the keyboard which is said to hold the mystical power of amplifying your voice while simultaneously lessening the likelihood you are taken seriously.surely such a thing cannot be real...?

idk

russelmmendoza wrote: »

idk wrote: »

OP says acknowledges they nerfed 1H because it was not fair (balanced) with 2H but then asks to buff 1H which would make it unbalanced again. It does not make sense.

I acknowledge they did for balance, is it balance no.

Give dw a 2x or 1.5x attack speed to make it balance.

I clearly stated you acknowledged it was for balance. I also clearly stated you know want a buff to 1H and make it clear it would then make it unbalanced again. It is pretty obvious logic going on here.

Davadin

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

russelmmendoza wrote: »

You nerf the damage and enchant for 1h because its not fair to 2h.

But to make it fair, buff the attack/swing speed of 1h, because 1h should be faster than 2h.

This should put things in balance. Maybe 2x speed on 1h would be enough.

1H is already faster than 2H. light and heavy attacks already faster than 2H.

are u asking that if im on 1HS or DW that it'll speed up my skills time too?

GTFO

YOU GET THE BLEEP OFF!!!

THEY NERF THE DAMAGE AND ENCHANT FOR DW. FOR THE SAKE OF BALANCE.
ITS NOT BALANCE, BUFF ATTACK SPEED ON DW, SO I CAN DO THE SAME DAMGE ON DW WHEN IT WASNT NERF.

HENCE, FOR BALANCE, GIVE DW 2X ATTACK SPEED OF 2H.

LET ME SWING MY DW 2X BEFORE HE CAN LAND A SINGLE 2H SWING.

FOR BALANCE AND ALL THAT.

LOL there is no balance if u can swing your DW twice at the same time a 2H swing once.

say, DW was doing 150% damage, considering buff, enchant, speed, all that. Roughly, ok? Roughly.
2H was doing maybe 100% damage, so they nerf enchant so now they're both around 100%, ok? Roughly.

Making DW attack speed TWICE the speed of 2H is literally, effectively, doubling it 200% damage.

Stop whatever you're smoking, there's no chance in hell they'll speed 1H to twice the speed a 2H... LOL

get out, troll.

russelmmendoza

Davadin wrote: »

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

russelmmendoza wrote: »

You nerf the damage and enchant for 1h because its not fair to 2h.

But to make it fair, buff the attack/swing speed of 1h, because 1h should be faster than 2h.

This should put things in balance. Maybe 2x speed on 1h would be enough.

1H is already faster than 2H. light and heavy attacks already faster than 2H.

are u asking that if im on 1HS or DW that it'll speed up my skills time too?

GTFO

YOU GET THE BLEEP OFF!!!

THEY NERF THE DAMAGE AND ENCHANT FOR DW. FOR THE SAKE OF BALANCE.
ITS NOT BALANCE, BUFF ATTACK SPEED ON DW, SO I CAN DO THE SAME DAMGE ON DW WHEN IT WASNT NERF.

HENCE, FOR BALANCE, GIVE DW 2X ATTACK SPEED OF 2H.

LET ME SWING MY DW 2X BEFORE HE CAN LAND A SINGLE 2H SWING.

FOR BALANCE AND ALL THAT.

LOL there is no balance if u can swing your DW twice at the same time a 2H swing once.

say, DW was doing 150% damage, considering buff, enchant, speed, all that. Roughly, ok? Roughly.
2H was doing maybe 100% damage, so they nerf enchant so now they're both around 100%, ok? Roughly.

Making DW attack speed TWICE the speed of 2H is literally, effectively, doubling it 200% damage.

Stop whatever you're smoking, there's no chance in hell they'll speed 1H to twice the speed a 2H... LOL

get out, troll.

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Balance means equal.

Dw got damage nerf and enchant nerf, and they didnt nerf the enchant cooldown, hence, the attack speed buff for dw is asked.

1.5 was ok for just the damage nerf, but the enchant was also nerfed, hence the request for 2x attack speed, let the global icd be the same whatever.

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Taleof2Cities

That ship has sailed, @russelmmendoza.

Your best bet is to stop living in February 2019 and move to the present with the rest of us.

Not to mention a 1H weapon does not make or break an overall character build.

russelmmendoza

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

That ship has sailed, @russelmmendoza.

Your best bet is to stop living in February 2019 and move to the present with the rest of us.

Not to mention a 1H weapon does not make or break an overall character build.

Well it did for me, my dw was competitive before the dw nerf, now goodluck getting a kill wi dw in bg, because now I never get a kill using dw in bg.

Bobby_V_Rockit

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

That ship has sailed, @russelmmendoza.

Your best bet is to stop living in February 2019 and move to the present with the rest of us.

Not to mention a 1H weapon does not make or break an overall character build.

Well it did for me, my dw was competitive before the dw nerf, now goodluck getting a kill wi dw in bg, because now I never get a kill using dw in bg.

Use a 2H then?

russelmmendoza

I tried but no luck.
Im stuck being a bowtard.
2h feels really sluggish to me.

KhajiitFelix

OP is so dumb.

russelmmendoza

Well I was doing fine before the nerf, so blame the bleeping nerf.

russelmmendoza

When your doing great with a skill set, then those skill set gets dumb down, yeah that is dumb.

Bobby_V_Rockit

russelmmendoza wrote: »

When your doing great with a skill set, then those skill set gets dumb down, yeah that is dumb.

But that was the problem, DW was outperforming DPS 2H by too large of a margin. By making any change that reverts it back to pre nerf damage levels would completely undo the balance changes. DW still outperforms 2H, just by not as much.