Necromancer just another Warden?

proteinexe

SO. First off, let me start by saying I am VERY excited for Necromancer. No matter what I say below, Im over the moon that ZoS has taken such large strides, and this just makes me more devoted to this year in ESO.

I looked at the necromancer, and the first thing that came to mind was no hard CC and no execute - this worried me.

Ok - I wrote a lot here but deleted it. It detailed the relationship between Magden/Magmancer and Stamden/Stammancer, but there's too much to say. Id like to hear from the opinions of others. Im worried that for PvP it'll just be another magden that spews damage like a 14 yr old sprays lynx africa but cant finish anyone (there are exceptions).

Intextio

The necro execute is tied in with it's passives not it's abilities.

proteinexe

Intextio wrote: »

The necro execute is tied in with it's passives not it's abilities.

Its currently too powerful for PvE and too weak for PvP - its not working like intended.

ccmedaddy

Bone Totem:
Call forth an Effigy of Bone that gives Minor Protection to you and your allies for 8 seconds, reducing your damage taken by [x%]. After 2 seconds, the totem instills fear in enemies, holding them in place for 4 seconds..

This is a weird skill but it's still a better CC than anything in the Warden kit (RIP deep fissure stun). They also have an amazing execute passive that increases their crit chance by 20% after a certain health threshold. Fits right into the current PvE meta.

KhajiitFelix

Nope necromancer is spelled different.

BlazingDynamo

proteinexe wrote: »

Intextio wrote: »

The necro execute is tied in with it's passives not it's abilities.

Its currently too powerful for PvE and too weak for PvP - its not working like intended.

Good. Maybe we wont have to worry about it getting nerfed into the ground to accommodate pvp babies.

Nerouyn

proteinexe wrote: »

It detailed the relationship between Magden/Magmancer and Stamden/Stammancer, but there's too much to say.

One damage line. One tanking line. One healing line.

Not many magicka damage abilities total. Six for necro. Four for warden.

Very high proportion of damage abilities with stamina morphs.

No execute - which personally I don't mind.

Yes the similarities are glaring.

I'm very disappointed with warden. 2/3rds of their abilities are garbage. At this point the only reason I might continue playing them is out of fear. I have a wardens of every race I might possibly play. For me that class is buffered against future racial passive changes. I was hit hard in that respect by the recent ones. The nerf in power I didn't mind. The style of passives I got lumped with I definitely do. I loathe the new altmer and bosmer passives and I have a lot of them.

Necromancer is a very easy pass for me. I may make one eventually and level it to 50 but then it would just join my stable of crafting writ / storage mule alts. Not being especially into Khajiit and necromancer having no appeal beyond their rez ultimate, that makes not buying Elswyr now an easy choice.

ku5h

Honestly that execute passive looks stupid OP, especially since all the skills in the line including ULT are all good and can easily find its way on your bar. It will be brutal on stamNecro using 2H execute, or spin2win.
IMO entire class is way overtuned.

proteinexe

ku5h wrote: »

Honestly that execute passive looks stupid OP, especially since all the skills in the line including ULT are all good and can easily find its way on your bar. It will be brutal on stamNecro using 2H execute, or spin2win.
IMO entire class is way overtuned.

It is for PvE and doesnt work for PvP