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Lower the crown store price of stick mounts to be more in line with prior Pay To Lose offerings, refund the difference back to those who bought the item. Increase the crown gem stick mount's speed to that of a full mount, modify it's animations accordingly.

Then we have a cheap, fun pay to lose option as well as an expensive and exclusive full mount.
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  • Enemoriana
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    coop500 wrote: »

    But you don't ride it if you sprint....

    Hmmm. Does it make you a mount?..

    Well, while walking/running, you are riding ) And sprint is, imho, great idea.
    And still useful if you have max horse stamina.
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    Enemoriana wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »

    But you don't ride it if you sprint....

    Hmmm. Does it make you a mount?..

    Well, while walking/running, you are riding ) And sprint is, imho, great idea.
    And still useful if you have max horse stamina.

    and then (I guess as I wont buy it) we probable cant use our normal mount with speed to ride fast somewhere while we ahve in use that crap and then we need specially switch those mounts everytime we want to just ride fast in most content or just chill in town while have limited quickslots for faster use of that crap if we want
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Enemoriana wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »

    But you don't ride it if you sprint....

    Hmmm. Does it make you a mount?..

    Well, while walking/running, you are riding ) And sprint is, imho, great idea.
    And still useful if you have max horse stamina.

    and then (I guess as I wont buy it) we probable cant use our normal mount with speed to ride fast somewhere while we ahve in use that crap and then we need specially switch those mounts everytime we want to just ride fast in most content or just chill in town while have limited quickslots for faster use of that crap if we want

    Eh? I don't see where problem is. Why do you have to often change it?

    Honestly, in most content there is no real need for horse. Cyrodiil, yes, but in pve zones difference between running and riding is just... tiny. I'd say running is even more useful, because you can gather materials faster.
    That makes it nearly same as "oh, I want ride both that senche and that wolf!"
    And that's reason to speak not about mounts, but about "give us possibilily to mark favourite items in collection" - that thing will be very useful.
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    @Enemoriana yea atlest mark as favorite collectibles would be very good with things like this

    and well...this is good for afk in cities
    and about running is better than ridding...yes ins some cases running is better than riding by simple thing - animation of mounting is so long if we move very fast so it is just more comfortable to dont mount up with this an=imation if there us short distance to travel

    and unfortunately this stick have same long animation to mount up so still pure running would be much better than this and simple mount also would be better than this as mount up animation is same long but on normal mount we have atleast this additional speed from mount training
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    Edziu wrote: »
    @Enemoriana yea atlest mark as favorite collectibles would be very good with things like this

    and well...this is good for afk in cities
    and about running is better than ridding...yes ins some cases running is better than riding by simple thing - animation of mounting is so long if we move very fast so it is just more comfortable to dont mount up with this an=imation if there us short distance to travel

    and unfortunately this stick have same long animation to mount up so still pure running would be much better than this and simple mount also would be better than this as mount up animation is same long but on normal mount we have atleast this additional speed from mount training

    I meaned, in most pve zones there's just no need in faster mount. Want funny look? Use stick. Just go somewhere? Why use mount, just run to/from nearest wayshire.
    Not like you'll have to switch from funny to fast and back twenty times a day. And if you just want - that's another problem, with too long list of collectibles.

    (No favourite collectibles is only thing that prevents me from buying pack of face markings...)
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    When you sprint with the stick mount, does it use your stamina or the stick's?
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    WuffyCerulei wrote: »
    THEY'RE STICK ANIMALS. I don’t know what else you expected.

    To magically transform into a unicorn, of course! :D
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    When you sprint with the stick mount, does it use your stamina or the stick's?

    Mount stamina. They are mounts, just like with 0/60 speed instead of your actual training.
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    When you sprint with the stick mount, does it use your stamina or the stick's?

    It uses the stick mount's stamina. :smile:
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    Enemoriana wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    When you sprint with the stick mount, does it use your stamina or the stick's?

    Mount stamina. They are mounts, just like with 0/60 speed instead of your actual training.
    meekmiko wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    When you sprint with the stick mount, does it use your stamina or the stick's?

    It uses the stick mount's stamina. :smile:

    Thank you for the answers! :)
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    Patsy had coconut shells.
    All you folk with stick codpieces are now Patzies.


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    If I'm wearing jailbreaker and a swift necklace in full medium, will the stick slow me down?
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    Enemoriana wrote: »
    citats wrote: »
    modify it's animations accordingly.
    But their animations are the best things about them!
    Wildberryjack wrote: »
    They call it a mount, it is not a mount. Either stop calling it a mount or make it a real mount.

    You can ride it? It is in "mounts" section of collection? Then it is mount.
    Lower speed doesn't make it not mount.
    You can play with the broom.
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    Wildberryjack wrote: »
    They call it a mount, it is not a mount. Either stop calling it a mount or make it a real mount.

    Yeah, price things how you want, but this is misleading AF. It says mount, and should behave like any other mount other than aesthetics. So glad I didnt buy any.
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    Leave it the way it is....


    No I didn't buy one.
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    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, a Breton monk and two Imperial soldiers. One of the Imperials claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (Ras Kalik's mentor in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn is really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son, that was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired battle-mage soldier and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn is also a master of disguise, and uses his disguises while he robs various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Tharn also runs an illegal gambling ring...

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    No. Its a NOVELTY, a joke, treat it as such. It was never meant to be a legit mount.
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    One really funny thing. When you set your mount to the sticky boi and enter your house, your jumping animation still looks like the animation with the mount active.
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    Enemoriana wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    @Enemoriana yea atlest mark as favorite collectibles would be very good with things like this

    and well...this is good for afk in cities
    and about running is better than ridding...yes ins some cases running is better than riding by simple thing - animation of mounting is so long if we move very fast so it is just more comfortable to dont mount up with this an=imation if there us short distance to travel

    and unfortunately this stick have same long animation to mount up so still pure running would be much better than this and simple mount also would be better than this as mount up animation is same long but on normal mount we have atleast this additional speed from mount training

    I meaned, in most pve zones there's just no need in faster mount. Want funny look? Use stick. Just go somewhere? Why use mount, just run to/from nearest wayshire.
    Not like you'll have to switch from funny to fast and back twenty times a day. And if you just want - that's another problem, with too long list of collectibles.

    (No favourite collectibles is only thing that prevents me from buying pack of face markings...)

    that may be your preference, but it sure isn't mine. I use my mount 90% of the time. I use it so much that I genuinely dislike playing new characters for at least a month, usually more - because I need my speedier mount, darn it.

    you not finding mounts useful =/= everyone not finding mounts useful.

    the fact that these stick horses do not scale of mount speed was pretty much the reason why I decided NOT to buy them. I don't see where I'd use them as a decor and to be honest, I find the price to be WAY too high to use as decor anyways.
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    that may be your preference, but it sure isn't mine. I use my mount 90% of the time. I use it so much that I genuinely dislike playing new characters for at least a month, usually more - because I need my speedier mount, darn it.

    you not finding mounts useful =/= everyone not finding mounts useful.

    the fact that these stick horses do not scale of mount speed was pretty much the reason why I decided NOT to buy them. I don't see where I'd use them as a decor and to be honest, I find the price to be WAY too high to use as decor anyways.

    Can be also said that's your preference, yes?
    It is joke item for jester festival. And it is just character running. What else can be expected?

    There's a lot of housing items that cost much. Even those that doesn't have any functionality at all. Damned imperial medaillion cost 410, and it does nothing. Fabricant tree cost 870, and it does nothing. Ra Gada statues cost two thousands, and they do nothing. 900 for thing that can be used both as joke mount and furniture? Not the worst price.

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    I like it, but it would be better if it was a proper mount.
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    Enemoriana wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    that may be your preference, but it sure isn't mine. I use my mount 90% of the time. I use it so much that I genuinely dislike playing new characters for at least a month, usually more - because I need my speedier mount, darn it.

    you not finding mounts useful =/= everyone not finding mounts useful.

    the fact that these stick horses do not scale of mount speed was pretty much the reason why I decided NOT to buy them. I don't see where I'd use them as a decor and to be honest, I find the price to be WAY too high to use as decor anyways.

    Can be also said that's your preference, yes?
    It is joke item for jester festival. And it is just character running. What else can be expected?

    There's a lot of housing items that cost much. Even those that doesn't have any functionality at all. Damned imperial medaillion cost 410, and it does nothing. Fabricant tree cost 870, and it does nothing. Ra Gada statues cost two thousands, and they do nothing. 900 for thing that can be used both as joke mount and furniture? Not the worst price.

    everything but Ra Gada statues assuming we are talking about the same ra gada statues? can be crafted. it doesn't have to cost so many crowns.

    you cannot craft a stick mount. and as a decoration - it has a pretty limited use IMO. ergo - its too high. then again, I find most crown store decoration prices to be far too high, and craft everything that is not vendor based.

    in any case - for what you get out of it, it honestly doesn't seem like a good price to me. I'm glad that people enjoy it, but I have a feeling more people would enjoy it and buy it if it was either cheaper, or actualy moved at mount speed.

    P.S. yes, I have both bucket and the broom. they are funny and they cost like.. a tenth of what this "mount" costs. and yet tey both have roughly the same degree of usefulness.
    Edited by Linaleah on March 22, 2019 6:19AM
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