HappyLittleTree wrote: »Orsimer I get because they are considered "both beastfolk and goblin-ken" even tho they are somewhat elven hence the Orsi-MER
But Bosmer? They are Elven aren't they?
Cundu_Ertur wrote: »Lore wise it's questionable if the Bosmer are actually mer or not. Bosmer creation myths say that men, mer, and beasts were shifting form constantly until Yffre gave the Bosmer the elven forms they have now. Khajiit myth says the same, and adds that Khajiit and Bosmer were 'no longer littermates' after Yffre did that (Khajiit followed Azura instead of Yffre).
Don't select Bosmer if you are expecting the 'stealthy archer' archetype from all of the previous games or the past 5 years, though. For reasons that transcend normal human understanding all of the lore around Bosmer has been rejected, ignored, and defiled by the current crop of devs. Orc, Dunmer, Redguard, and Imperial are better archers; Khajiit and Imperial better in stealth -- Khajiit are the only stealthy race at all now.
Several things came to mind while reading this thread:
1) You mentioned Bosmer since they were dark complected and can have black eyes. Have you considered Dunmer? They are dark skinned and can have reddish eyes. They are also top Stamina performers.
2) One of the customization options for Bosmer is to have antlers sprouting out of their foreheads - presumably a throwback to a more bestial form or perhaps a lingering effect of the "Wild Hunt", which the Bosmer can trigger in times of dire need to collectively transform into beasts and drive invaders from their territory.
3) Any race could be a beast if you choose to be bitten and tranform into a werewolf.
When it comes to specifics, I rely on the work of Theory Crafters. If you havnt seen it already, check out this thread, which goes into some detail concerning Argonians and every other race.
Not only stam, but also worst mag dps
Read it, and holy crap, Argonian is the worst Stam DPS Race.
Thoughts on if the Argonian's Potion Passive is helpful for Stam DPS sustain?
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Not only stam, but also worst mag dps
amongst all mag races.
Argonians are also 4th or 5th race for healer (outpreformed by almost all mag races) and 4th or 5th race for tank role (again, outpreformed by other races). Tbh the only use they seem to have currently is RP. Idk other reson one would pick them. Maybe for some niche build utilizing potion passive. LOL, zeni kinda wrecked them in racial rebalance... *sorry for off-topic*.
HappyLittleTree wrote: »Orsimer I get because they are considered "both beastfolk and goblin-ken" even tho they are somewhat elven hence the Orsi-MER
But Bosmer? They are Elven aren't they?
No, thank you for your feedback. The main reason I chose Argonian was due to RP purposes, and, I'm going to just stick with it. I love my Argonian. Also, it will be nice doing great deeps on my Stamblade without the BiS or top Races. I take pride in that kind of thing.
Thanks to all who participated in my thread. Despite my back and forth, I am an Argonian Nightblade. I can't identify as anything else.
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Not only stam, but also worst mag dps
amongst all mag races.
Argonians are also 4th or 5th race for healer (outpreformed by almost all mag races) and 4th or 5th race for tank role (again, outpreformed by other races). Tbh the only use they seem to have currently is RP. Idk other reson one would pick them. Maybe for some niche build utilizing potion passive. LOL, zeni kinda wrecked them in racial rebalance... *sorry for off-topic*.
Potion passive is overrated in general. It may look good on paper, but it wont help you much, simply because on a stamina build you will only get 4K stam every 45 sec. So you will only utilize 33% of its potential and 66% if you wont be at full health.
The only way to fully use this passive is to go hybrid and use 2 resources pools (mag & stam). Although it is much more difficult to manage 2 resources pools instead of one and your DPS will be lower (so it is currently not worth it), you will almost always restore both mag & stam (so you will be utilizing 66% of this passive almost always) and occasionally 100% if you will be missing some health.
Argonians are not good in PvE... but in PvP they're still a solid choice. You will need some potion speed glyphs and tripots though.
Whoever think using potion speed glyphs is a good idea has not done the maths.
The sustain glyphs are much more valuable than whatever sustain you get from lowered potion cooldown even on Argonian.
Ragnarock41 wrote: »
Its actually pretty good with clever alchemist. Just requires a lot of potions.
They really messed up with that passive. No race passive should require tons of farming or gold at least imo.
Orc is best for stamina DPS, you will just have to master sustain.
For the best 'beasty' combination - go Orc, get the Sable Man Beast skin from Moon Hunter Keep and the Beast Man personality from March of Sacrifices