Is this cheating?

Quantact

I made a character in the Kyne server because I've wanted the Emperor's Regalia outfit for years. The moment the server opened at 7 am my time, I was out there, got in the lead, and got Emp by the evening of the first day of the campaign. My guildies helped me greatly and I am grateful to them.

There's a person there in my faction that's normally in the lead but she does literally nothing. So, if we're taking a resource, she stands to the side without fighting the hostile guards, runs in to get the tick, and is gone to get free AP elsewhere. She'll repair keeps we've taken and runs in to get the tick for keep defense/keep taking but does next to nothing or nothing to actually fight for the keep. She's got spies in groups telling her where the action is so she can leech where it's most profitable. I managed to outrun her in legit mode because I had several hours of a start on her, have been planning this for years and prepared my toon for months with any legal advantage I could think of (got to lvl 28 strictly on skyshard hunting, crown boosts for the horse, accumulated crown tripots from daily grants, excellent lvl 28 gear etc.) and because my whole guild flooded in to help me in the end. My lead over her was 400k and was diminished to 70k when I was crowned; at the speed she was catching up to me, I consider myself lucky to have gotten it at all.

Is what this person doing legitimate? Or is this some form of cheating?

Alucardo

Communicating with enemy alliances where the action is I wouldn't call cheating, but I'd deem it highly immoral. I don't know if people still do this these days, but people would just kill their friends from enemy factions at resources over and over to get quick and easy AP to farm emp. Not sure if it's still happening, but I haven't cared enough to check.

Ackwalan

It is not cheating, but it is cheesy has heck.

Quantact

Thanks guys, hope I didn't waste anybody's time.

I got my emp outfit, and I am glad beyond measure, but I just feel horrible for the other people in the campaign who deserve to get Emp but have to deal with this.

yodased

Not cheating, there are several hundred boosted emps and probably several thousand wall repair/tick leech emps out there.

It's all accepted and encouraged (for lack of a better term, since its so effective without any counterplay) play style and its why the title of former emperor is pretty unimpressive to a lot of people.

I worked for mine, you worked for yours, but really only we and ours will know that. Enjoy the outfit, enjoy the throne and the color, its what really matters anyway

JamilaRaj

Anyone has good link to triple facepalm?

VaranisArano

Gaining AP via repairing and leeching ticks from your alliance fighters is a valid, non-cheating way of getting Emperor.

At least you know how and when she was gaining her AP. Its when they disappear to some lonesome resource to boost AP with cross-Alliance friends that its cheating.

Quantact

Alright, thanks again everyone.

Mr_Walker

I can't believe you're trying to do it legit? If you look at some of the AP earned in the first 24 hours of a campaign you would find the amount on the leaders stretch credibility.

Quantact

Mr_Walker wrote: »

I can't believe you're trying to do it legit? If you look at some of the AP earned in the first 24 hours of a campaign you would find the amount on the leaders stretch credibility.

Well, I actually did get crowned, so I wasn't merely trying. I am glad I did it the right way, it feels better that way.

I had excellent help, though. My guildies really know their stuff, and aside from all the preparations I made, they helped me a ton as I was accumulating the AP, (giving me advice where to go next, etc.) and in the end the whole guild came for the push to get the keeps. If it wasn't for that, I'd be toast and I know it.

zyk

I have no idea who you're talking about, but it kind of sounds like you've heard salty hearsay.

It's normal for players competing for emp to spend as much AP as possible repairing walls.

It's also normal for players to race to any objective for ticks.

No one needs spies to learn where the action is. The map and zone chat is enough. I doubt she has spies, but probably chats with friends.

Beardimus

Quantact wrote: »

I made a character in the Kyne server because I've wanted the Emperor's Regalia outfit for years. The moment the server opened at 7 am my time, I was out there, got in the lead, and got Emp by the evening of the first day of the campaign. My guildies helped me greatly and I am grateful to them.

There's a person there in my faction that's normally in the lead but she does literally nothing. So, if we're taking a resource, she stands to the side without fighting the hostile guards, runs in to get the tick, and is gone to get free AP elsewhere. She'll repair keeps we've taken and runs in to get the tick for keep defense/keep taking but does next to nothing or nothing to actually fight for the keep. She's got spies in groups telling her where the action is so she can leech where it's most profitable. I managed to outrun her in legit mode because I had several hours of a start on her, have been planning this for years and prepared my toon for months with any legal advantage I could think of (got to lvl 28 strictly on skyshard hunting, crown boosts for the horse, accumulated crown tripots from daily grants, excellent lvl 28 gear etc.) and because my whole guild flooded in to help me in the end. My lead over her was 400k and was diminished to 70k when I was crowned; at the speed she was catching up to me, I consider myself lucky to have gotten it at all.

Is what this person doing legitimate? Or is this some form of cheating?

First of all @Quantact big congrats on getting Emperor i saw the costume doing the main quest in my early months of the game and knew i had to make a plan to have it, feels good to sort it huh

Also huge congrats on doing it legit. I've found that often Its the people more interested in ticking the achievement off or custume hunting over PvP / campaign victory that cross the line i.e. Boosting etc. As they get tempted in, so fair play to you - and it's a shame you have someone that seems to want to rule a campaign 24/7 by any means. Happens tho

Congrats again.

IxSTALKERxI

Not cheating that's pretty normal. Very frustrating when you have the ability to capture keeps on the map etc to crown yourself emp but when doing so you are sacrificing your ap/hr to the point where you may not be in #1 by the time you're finished haha.

Crown

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Not cheating that's pretty normal. Very frustrating when you have the ability to capture keeps on the map etc to crown yourself emp but when doing so you are sacrificing your ap/hr to the point where you may not be in #1 by the time you're finished haha.

That's part of the calculation on how far ahead you need to be before you start capping keeps, and NOT repairing them behind you (leaving that to others) when you rush to cap the next keep or to start sieging walls while others are capping a keep behind you in the ring.

@Quantact Congratulations on getting emperor! It's still the costume I use most, and the throne for your house is very nice!

Crown

@IxSTALKERxI How many toons did you end up deleting and re-making just to keep fighting and getting emp on the sub-level-50 campaigns back in the day? I remember you had a level 40 something templar emperor with 90k health spamming blazing shield. Those were good times!

IxSTALKERxI

Crown wrote: »

@IxSTALKERxI How many toons did you end up deleting and re-making just to keep fighting and getting emp on the sub-level-50 campaigns back in the day? I remember you had a level 40 something templar emperor with 90k health spamming blazing shield. Those were good times!

I've played 4 BWB toons/campaigns, 3 of them got emp

mook-eb16_ESO

emp status worthless