Help with stamblade dps

LyraCordram

Hi. I have been trying to upgrade the dps of my orc stamblade but I simply cannot do more than 18-19k. I know that my gear is not perfect, and probably I'm not executing the rotation well but I simply dont understand how can others do 30-50k dps. So could someone please explain to me what are those small, or not so small upgrades/tweaks that can help me to get from 18k dps to let's say 30k?

I have 483 champ points and I used Alcast's stamblade guide to allocate them.
I have full Briarheart and Hawk's Eye set (epic quality) with Max stamina enchantment and Divines trait on them.
Front bar is Briarheart daggers (both epic), backbar is Hawk`s Eye bow (legendary). The jewels are Robust + Weapon damage enchanted. Nerien'eth monster set.

The rotation im doing is this:
Before combat: Relentless focus + Leeching strikes
Endless hail + LA + caltrops +LA + Poison Inj. (bar swap) Rearming Trap + Blood craze + Surprise attack (1-2 heavy attack) or Killer's blade <20% -> REDO FROM START
Assassins scourge + Rend (ult) when they are up.

Here is a screenie of combat metrics:


I'd be really grateful for any tips how to improve. Thanks.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Its your rotation. Sure BIS gear and more CP will help, but your rotation, weave, and management of relentless focus are struggling pretty hard from that report.

You have 55 light attacks in 164 seconds. That is a light attack per second ratio of .33. It should be up around 9. You did 23 heavy attacks. You should honestly be doing ZERO on a 3 million dummy. You fired 14 spectral bow procs, meaning approximately 11 seconds is passing on average between them. Much more than bout 6-7 seconds is troublesome.

Dont lose a seconds thought over CP or gear until you get those numbers in line a bit better, as I assure you, it's all rotation.

Few other things, on a stamblade, dont use rend. Use soul harvest, also, is the lich crystal from Nerienth? As monster sets go, nerienth isnt even on the list for a stamblade, but again, gear is not your primary concern right now.

El_Borracho

@Oreyn_Bearclaw is the man, listen to him. So I'll just toss in a handful of suggestions he didn't hit on.

Go with Rending Slashes over Blood Craze. My partial DW bar rotation looks like Rearming trap > LA > Rending Slashes > LA > Surprise Attack (3-5 mixed with LA, depending on sustain). You should recognize it from alcast's site. It doesn't look like much on paper, but the additional weapon damage from Rending Slashes is noticeable (1230 vs. 1091).

I have a bigger issue with Nerineth. Nerineth is not a practical monster set, IMO. That 2 second lag before exploding allows too many mobile bosses to move away. Throw in the 4 meter radius, low proc rate, and low damage, I don't like it. Its one thing to get numbers on a dummy parse, but your goal is to use them in actual combat scenarios. Obviously Velidreth is the best, Stormfist and Selenes' are quality (though Selene's is single-target), but even something like Infernal Guardian would be better with the proc rate and damage. Not recommending Infernal Guardian, but if Nerineth is the alternative, I'm going with IG.

Finally, what is your food? If you have to throw in heavy attacks, is that for sustain? Dubious Camoran Throne + Stormfist was always the band-aid that worked for me until I cleaned up my rotation.

LyraCordram

Thanks guys. I will work on the rotation and will get Velidreth.

El_Borracho wrote: »

Finally, what is your food? If you have to throw in heavy attacks, is that for sustain? Dubious Camoran Throne + Stormfist was always the band-aid that worked for me until I cleaned up my rotation.

I use Longfin Pasty and yes the HA is for sustain. Otherwise I run out of stamina midway through. So I will look into that too.

John_Falstaff

LyraCordram wrote: »

Thanks guys. I will work on the rotation and will get Velidreth.

El_Borracho wrote: »

Finally, what is your food? If you have to throw in heavy attacks, is that for sustain? Dubious Camoran Throne + Stormfist was always the band-aid that worked for me until I cleaned up my rotation.

I use Longfin Pasty and yes the HA is for sustain. Otherwise I run out of stamina midway through. So I will look into that too.

Unless you're one of sustain races (bosmers, redguards) - which you're not? I think that's orc icon in Combat Metrics? - then you probably will have to use regen food, Dubious Camoran Throne or Artaeum Takeaway Broth. Sustaining blue food would be difficult.

Hibernato

Go farm normal cloud rest if you have summerset and earn Relequen. It is automatically 5k+ dps from the proc.

Replace your nerineth with kraghs or selenes if you can't earn velidreth. Use incapacitating strike as your ultimate instead of rend. You want it on your bow bar so when you cast it you also bar swap at the same time so you get your dw bonus and you want dawnbreaker on your front bar for the passive wep dmg.

Never use tri food in pve unless you're a tank, use max stam+health food or dubious. Lots of people use max stam+stam regen in dps tests to be like hhhh look at my 50k but it's silly imo since they won't use that food in actual content.

I see no major brutality on your cmx screenshot, when ppl do dps dummy tests they use a power pot (gives major brutality, the critical buff and stam) let it go down to like 25sec cooldown then start the test with using the pot on cooldown for 100% uptime.

I think with just major brutality and Relequen you would be near 30k.

Its just lots of practice on rotation too, last June I struggled to hit 20k on a 3m dummy test and by September I got 46.5k on 6m dummy, as a bosmer at that time so don't be discouraged

Narvuntien

I suck for dps on my stamblade as well one thing I found made it work better for me was to actually slow down and make sure I hit every single light attack NBs are so hard on 300 ping .

In the end, I just leveled up a Stamwarden instead (using the stamblade for PVP)

ATomiX96

LyraCordram wrote: »

Here is a screenie of combat metrics:

Just the stuff I can see from the linked parse.

• Nerien'eth is a Magicka Monster set, use Kragh/Selene/Velidreth/Stormfist instead
• I wouldnt play Hawk Eye on a melee oriented Stamina Nightblade, use Hundings Rage (crafted set) instead until you get access to Relequen (easy to farm from normal cloudrest)
• Gold out your weapons, if you dont have alot of Gold you should still look into golding out Weapons before you gold out anything else
• Wrong Bufffood, You should not use Tri-Stat Food as a DD in PvE, use Maximum Stamina / Maximum Health instead and if you struggle with sustain use Dubious Camoran Throne (Max Stam/Health + Stamina Regen)
• Dont use Rend as your ultimate of choice, Use Flawless Dawnbreaker (Fighters Guild ultimate) frontbar and Incap Strike (Assassination Ultimate) Backbar (bow), you slot flawless on frontbar to boost your weapon damage by a total of 8%, for single target you will always use incap strike on your backbar and have the flawless dawnbreaker just be a buff for your frontbar.
• As many people mentioned, too many heavy attacks, too little light attacks, you should not run out of stamina on a 3 Million HP Dummy, light attacks are a major part of your total damage. Also way too little light attacks for how long the combat is going, work on your light attack weaving. You also need your light attack weaving to activate relentless focus, which is also a huge chunk of your overall damage.
• You dont seem to use any potions at all (Mandatory, 20 ultimate every 45 seconds on nightblade), optimal potion would be Essence of Weapon Power (Stamina, Weapon Crit, Weapon Damage), they would boost your weapon damage by another 20% and your weapon crit by a good chunk as well (dont know the exact percentage), if you cant afford them look into running Absorb Essence (Nightblade Siphoning Tree 5th Skill, Stamina base morph) and run dropped Stamina Potions instead.
• Aim for at least 16k HP with bufffood active, if you are below that treshold, either distribute few Attributes from Stamina towards Health or replace Armor Glyphs with Health Glyphs until you hit those 16k.
• For CP Allocation I can recommend looking up Alcasts CP distributions for lower CP players on his website, ill link you the specific site for his stamina nightblade there -> https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-build-for-pve/
• Also addons like Action Duration Reminder or Srendarr Buff Tracker, help you track your buffs and step up your game.

Your bar setup should look something along those lines (you can order the skills around however you want, just make sure they stay on the same bar):



Happy Parsing.

John_Falstaff

@Hibernato , to be a devil's advocate for a moment, I wouldn't say that Lava Foot (and the magicka counterpart) is such a cheese on 6mil parses. It's actually a good imitation of raid sustain - if you can parse through 6mil with max resource + regen food, then it's a good indication that you can sustain DCT / Witchmother's in a trial where you'll have spears / orbs and resource return from Undaunted Command.

ThePhantomThorn

I recommend running hundings + briarheart + kraghs until u can get sets like rele and lokesjiberish but ur Rota needs work too
Check out the almighty YouTube and channels like theaisiangod and xynode gaming for tips with the rota
Don’t be to concerned about pulling 50k dps 30k is fine for most content (except vdlcs and vhm trials) also make sure ur running the right food I’d recommend dubious or blue food and the shadow mundus