Pick pocketing - has the timing for the green "light" changed?

KMarble

A couple of days ago I noticed that it's taking a very long time to get the numbers to turn green and to hear the bell sound.

Is anyone else encountering similar issues?

Since I'm in the topic of stealing, if I steal once and someone else comes along and uses BoW, I get two items from the corpse, correct? (at least that's how it worked in the past). Two days ago I grouped with a friend and we went on a thieving/back stabbing spree, but I only got one item after the friend killed each NPC. Was it because we were in a group? I also had the worst time remaining undetected, was it because I was in a group?

Sera67

On Ps4 side, there this weird lag since last few updates.... not mention blasted random load screen all over place.

For me, its a 1/2 seconds of time the green is even up, and if I click steal. It'll not be green no more.
Thou I havn't been caught during this phase.. it seems game gives it to me.

But its off, and weird looking.

I'm not good at button prompts, and i use to be able click it fine. Now every time feels like its broken or off.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Since last update I randomly fail pick-pocketing at 100%.

BretonMage

I've noticed failing a LOT more this update. I figured they must've changed something.

I've also noticed practically ZERO drops of motifs and recipes/blueprints now from NPCs/containers. Where did they go???

Caligamy_ESO

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Since last update I randomly fail pick-pocketing at 100%.

Yeah this has happened to me a on a few rare instances too, thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me. I usually get frustrated and just stab them and move on lol..

KMarble

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Since last update I randomly fail pick-pocketing at 100%.

Yeah this has happened to me a on a few rare instances too, thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me. I usually get frustrated and just stab them and move on lol..

I know it has happened to me at least once, but it was before the Wrathstone update and I chalked it up as me clicking at the wrong time (for me, at least, sometimes I'll get the green 100% that goes away really fast and then I'll get the green 100% + the bell sound. I usually only hit the E key once I get both the green and the bell)

As a side note, I think part of my problem was that I was grouped with a friend. Yesterday after I posted here I went to play and had less problems picking pockets. That said, the game was acting weird yesterday for me (it could be because one of the addons that was disabled got updated) - at one point I was in Vivec City and when I toggled to the map, my marker was somewhere in the north of Vvardenfell, sometimes I was unable to preview items in the guild stores and, the oddest, I was detected after killing the beggar on Vos (the one by the entrance of town), even though I made sure the guard had turned the corner before stabbing her. He was on top of me immediately after I stabber her.

@BretonMage , I didn't notice a change in drop rate, but I haven't been doing a lot of stealing&stabbing lately - the irony of an event dedicated to the assassins and thieves, where the thing you do the least is...steal and kill.

BretonMage

KMarble wrote: »

@BretonMage , I didn't notice a change in drop rate, but I haven't been doing a lot of stealing&stabbing lately - the irony of an event dedicated to the assassins and thieves, where the thing you do the least is...steal and kill.

Thanks, I spent yesterday thieving and got a couple of furnishing plans, so perhaps I was just having bad RNG last week. Still seems quite low compared with previously but I suspect they've been gradually nerfing containers anyway.

cheifsoap

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Since last update I randomly fail pick-pocketing at 100%.

That logic is sound. I think you need to have a > 100% chance to pickpocket!

KMarble

BretonMage wrote: »

KMarble wrote: »

@BretonMage , I didn't notice a change in drop rate, but I haven't been doing a lot of stealing&stabbing lately - the irony of an event dedicated to the assassins and thieves, where the thing you do the least is...steal and kill.

Thanks, I spent yesterday thieving and got a couple of furnishing plans, so perhaps I was just having bad RNG last week. Still seems quite low compared with previously but I suspect they've been gradually nerfing containers anyway.

Good to know RNG got better for you. As for the bold part, I feel the same. I don't know if it's a nerf or if there is some sort of saturation thing going on - as in, the more you loot from a certain area, the less loot (or valuable loot) you get from it.

For example: Elden Root is my main hub, it's the place I got back to many times a day to sell, decon and fix gear. Soon after I started taking loot seriously in this game I found a purple furnishing pattern there. The next few days I also got purple recipes and blue treasures. Nowadays I get almost nothing out of the many containers there. It makes me wonder if I reached the saturation point.

cheifsoap wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Since last update I randomly fail pick-pocketing at 100%.

That logic is sound. I think you need to have a > 100% chance to pickpocket!

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, so here it goes: the game doesn't go higher than 100%. When you see that number it means that you have a 100% chance of being successful. One can successfully pick a pocket at lower numbers, I've done it many times. I usually draw the line at 75% because RNG, but if I'm feeling lucky I'll go for it and have had success at less than that.