Minor berserk overrides destro staff Ancient Knowledge

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I just tested this out on warden.

Equip a fire staff and a lightning staff and at least one AoE and one single target ability to test without a source of minor berserk.

On each bar the corresponding abilities are buffed(lightning buffs AoE and fire buffs single target)

Now equip a source of minor berserk. I used Bird of Prey.

The numbers on both types of abilities will stay the same regardless of which staff is used as long as minor berserk is being applied.

I think Ancient Knowledge is coded to give the same buff, minor berserk, but only to either single target or AoE depending on the staff type used and therefore cannot be applied further with an actual source of minor berserk.

This means that my ice staff is equal to fire and lightning for dps as long as I have minor berserk in my build.

Edit: this actually makes ice the best staff type for warden for pure single target dps
  • WrathOfInnos
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    That is a crazy discovery. I wonder how long it’s been going on. Might explain why Slimecraw parses are never quite as good as they should be.

    Edit: Proven false
    Edited by WrathOfInnos on March 3, 2019 6:58PM
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    This might be a warden only thing, because on my magblade, minor berzerk, from merciless resolve stacks just fine with the ancient knowledge passive.
  • alexj4596b14_ESO
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    This might be a warden only thing, because on my magblade, minor berzerk, from merciless resolve stacks just fine with the ancient knowledge passive.

    If that's the case, I wonder if it's intentionally doing it then?
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    This might be a warden only thing, because on my magblade, minor berzerk, from merciless resolve stacks just fine with the ancient knowledge passive.

    If that's the case, I wonder if it's intentionally doing it then?

    i would bet more on your testing method is flawed.
  • alexj4596b14_ESO
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    This might be a warden only thing, because on my magblade, minor berzerk, from merciless resolve stacks just fine with the ancient knowledge passive.

    If that's the case, I wonder if it's intentionally doing it then?

    i would bet more on your testing method is flawed.

    Not the OP but is possible.
  • cwp303b14_ESO
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    Some more Wardens should test.

    It could explain the notoriously low dps from pve magdens if it only effects Bird of Prey. However, I think more magblades should test as well to be sure.

    I'm on PS4, btw
  • alexj4596b14_ESO
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    Some more Wardens should test.

    It could explain the notoriously low dps from pve magdens if it only effects Bird of Prey. However, I think more magblades should test as well to be sure.

    I'm on PS4, btw

    It could also be a balance thing for those wardens and the other staffs as far as PvP goes.

    Will try and test when I get home
    Edited by alexj4596b14_ESO on March 3, 2019 1:10AM
  • cwp303b14_ESO
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    I was using infused torugs staves to test. I have 3 identical, 1 of each type
  • T3hasiangod
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    It is working as intended on both magNBs and magdens on PC/NA.

    It is likely that your testing methodology is flawed.

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  • cwp303b14_ESO
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    Tooltips on shalks and cliff racer remain the same with both staves until Bird of Prey is removed and only then are separately buffed by the passive. I will create a resto staff and test with it as well.

    I am looking at the stated damage in the tooltips, going to inventory, equipping identical torugs staves of either fire or lightning in main hand(only bar being tested) and then closing out of in game menu, reopening, and looking at the tooltip damage listed and not observing a change
  • cwp303b14_ESO
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    @T3hasiangod I see fire but my issue is that after Bird of Prey applies minor berserk, equipping ice, fire, or lightning had identical values listed for shalks and cliff racer
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    @T3hasiangod I see fire but my issue is that after Bird of Prey applies minor berserk, equipping ice, fire, or lightning had identical values listed for shalks and cliff racer

    Do not trust tooltips. Hit a dummy.
  • cwp303b14_ESO
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    @Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    It turns out it's not an interaction with bird of prey or minor berserk.

    Ancient Knowledge does not effect the Warden's skills:
    winters revenge, fletcher flies, screaming cliff racer, or deep fissure.

    They hit for exactly the same on a target dummy regardless of which type of staff, fire or lightning, I used. The tooltips agreed with the tested result.
  • WrathOfInnos
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    Yeah, I just tested Slimecraw with the Ancient Knowledge passive on Sorcerer. It works fine on both single target and AoE abilities.
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