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User shouldn't be logged out during character editing
logarifmik
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Greetings, comrades!
Today I finally found some time to use one of those free Race Change tokens kindly provided by devs for correcting appearance of my main character a bit. To put long story short, after 20 minutes or so spent on tinkering with sliders I decided to get myself a cup of Earl Grey hot from the replicator kitchen. After I came back, I found my account logged out for the high time of inactivity. I know that I shouldn't have left the game in such state, and I don’t complain or something, and I’ll certainly finish character editing later. However, this time he’ll look a bit less like Lenin… Which is quite sad.
Anyway, don’t you think that the game should at least save the changes you made during character editing, if it logs you out?
Today I finally found some time to use one of those free Race Change tokens kindly provided by devs for correcting appearance of my main character a bit. To put long story short, after 20 minutes or so spent on tinkering with sliders I decided to get myself a cup of Earl Grey hot from the replicator kitchen. After I came back, I found my account logged out for the high time of inactivity. I know that I shouldn't have left the game in such state, and I don’t complain or something, and I’ll certainly finish character editing later. However, this time he’ll look a bit less like Lenin… Which is quite sad.
Anyway, don’t you think that the game should at least save the changes you made during character editing, if it logs you out?
EU PC: @logarifmik | Languages: Русский, English
Dimitri Frernis | Breton Sorcerer | Damage Dealer | Daggerfall Covenant
Scales-of-Ice | Argonian Warden | Tank / Healer | Daggerfall Covenant
Dimitri Frernis | Breton Sorcerer | Damage Dealer | Daggerfall Covenant
Scales-of-Ice | Argonian Warden | Tank / Healer | Daggerfall Covenant
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭On console we don't even have numbers or names for the different options. Just sliders. Now that's hella fun. I was logged out so often because of a time out... it's just mind-boggling that they haven't fixed this or that we can't save templates. MMORPGs 15 years back offered those options.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -3 -
DBZVelena✭✭✭✭✭Why does a character creation bit even have that. Some people can work for hours to get a character just right. Only to get logged out because you took to long deliberating an eye color or whatever.What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
I believe in Genie-Gina.6 -
Mudcrabber✭✭✭✭The character creation timeout's as low as 2 minutes for some. I don't know why.
I've gotten pretty fast at finding an appearance I like, but I've chosen some pretty awful character names because I'm racing against the clock after the first few names I wanted were already taken.2 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh and it's not like 10 or 20 min must pass. I have the feeling it's something between 2-3 min when you get logged out.
Sometimes I am finished and want to name my character and think about it and BOOM! disconnected after I tried to fix the jaw and nose of my character for 20 minutes...PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -2 -
disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I've got through to the naming stage on a new character and been kicked off, losing everything.
I also get bored very easily, so by the time I'm half way through I start leaving the default settings in place, so my characters will never be great works of art - unless you want to put them into the Picasso gallery.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.0 -
nine9six✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've yelled at my screen so many times over this. Eventually, you'll memorize your settings as you go so that on the "final" attempt you can fly through it.
***.Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭disintegr8 wrote: »I've got through to the naming stage on a new character and been kicked off, losing everything.
I also get bored very easily, so by the time I'm half way through I start leaving the default settings in place, so my characters will never be great works of art - unless you want to put them into the Picasso gallery.
After that happened to me I started taking screen shots of the sliders so I could get back. Still a pain in the behind though.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
Gundug✭✭✭✭✭It wouldn’t be the worst thing if it saved your settings before logging you out so you could choose to continue from where you left off.3 -
VaxtinTheWolf✭✭✭✭✭I use my phone, or OBS, to record the screen once I'm satisfied with the end result, knowing that the game wont allow me to proceed beyond that after taking so long. I exit then re enter character creation, and use the recording to set the desired options from there.|| AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
|| DC - Ja'Kiro Feral-Heart Lv50 Khajiit Dragonknight (Damage) || EP - VaxtinTheWolf Lv50 Redguard Templar (Tank) || AD - Velik Iranis Lv50 Dark Elf Sorcerer (Tank ) ||
|| EP - Einvarg The Frozen Lv50 Nord Warden (Tank/Healer) || EP - Keem-Ja Lv4 Argonian Necromancer (Healer/Tank) ||PC - North American Server (Champion 1300+)0 -
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✭Yes, I could never understand why your character doesn't save as a template/draft. I made the most handsome boi, was googling a name for him and when I came back he was gone. I tried to re-create him but it wasn't the same and I was disheartened. I also take a screenshot now periodically when creating a character, that's the best thing I can think to do.PC EU & NA0 -
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Oh god I hated spending an hour making a character, then have to find a name that isn’t taken, have the game say it’s taken, look five more times and type them- taken and finally kicked for “being inactive”disintegr8 wrote: »I've got through to the naming stage on a new character and been kicked off, losing everything.
I also get bored very easily, so by the time I'm half way through I start leaving the default settings in place, so my characters will never be great works of art - unless you want to put them into the Picasso gallery.
Edited by Reistr_the_Unbroken on February 28, 2019 8:36PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The time out while logged in game is 10 minutes, more or less.
The time out while on character select is 2 to 5 minutes.
Chargen is done on the Character Select Screen.
Therein lies the problem, we need a separate timer for Chargen.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"4 -
logarifmik✭✭✭✭✭
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That's exactly what I have tried to say. Thank you for finding the right words. The timer must be separated and increased, definitely.The time out while logged in game is 10 minutes, more or less.
The time out while on character select is 2 to 5 minutes.
Chargen is done on the Character Select Screen.
Therein lies the problem, we need a separate timer for Chargen.Edited by logarifmik on February 28, 2019 8:45PMEU PC: @logarifmik | Languages: Русский, English
Dimitri Frernis | Breton Sorcerer | Damage Dealer | Daggerfall Covenant
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Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Or at least a way to save progress, either manually with a warning message to give us a chance to save. Or, better yet, the warning message can be clicked to extend the time. Of course, that won't help the folks who make tea while creating a character....Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"4 -
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✭Or at least a way to save progress, either manually with a warning message to give us a chance to save. Or, better yet, the warning message can be clicked to extend the time. Of course, that won't help the folks who make tea while creating a character....
I'll admit to wandering off to make a cup of tea or feed the cats... Perhaps a warning message with a really loud beep would help
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✭✭That's why I'm thankful of those 3 free race change haircut tokens. Getting timed out while twiddling with character generator is marjorly annoying.0 -
logarifmik✭✭✭✭✭
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Hey, that was crucially vital!Or at least a way to save progress, either manually with a warning message to give us a chance to save. Or, better yet, the warning message can be clicked to extend the time. Of course, that won't help the folks who make tea while creating a character....EU PC: @logarifmik | Languages: Русский, English
Dimitri Frernis | Breton Sorcerer | Damage Dealer | Daggerfall Covenant
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I got my friend into eso not too long ago and he was spending a lot of time making his first charecter exactly like he wanted when he got logged out for inactivity. Was not a good first impression of the game for him.@DragonHeart000 NA PC
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✭The worst is when you are not even inactive, typing in multiple names. All of sudden logged out. Guess I couldn’t find a name not taken.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
{time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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✭✭Just editing a char does not time out (unless one takes a 2+min to meditate looks / making tea / toilet break) but trying different names after getting it perfect does not count as being active and does too often eats the work.
I myself prefer as short name as possible so choosing one that is not already in use can take some significant tries. I think I've timed out on naming every character I've created at least once.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Bear in mind that you will pretty well never get the "name taken" message if you add a second name. Not everyone wants their characters to have two names, of course, but it is a pretty good way of getting names that at first attempt aren't available.0 -
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✭I always build my characters on the PTS so I can test in game and then go back to make adjustments. Then I take screenshots of everything and do it on Live.PC-NA0 -
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✭✭✭✭I was making a new character the other day, and the first 5 names I tried were all taken, I ended up just going for a name I don't particularly like because I didn't want to get timed out while I was looking up lore/naming conventionsGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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✭This happened to me once years ago and never again. Now I always come up with a few ideas for names before starting the creation process. I also make a conscious effort to spin and zoom my character every few seconds to reset the idle timer. Bit of a hassle, but I never lost a character again.1 -
Temeraire507✭✭✭Moloch1514 wrote: »I always build my characters on the PTS so I can test in game and then go back to make adjustments. Then I take screenshots of everything and do it on Live.
Same.
Still the log out timer is utterly useless in there and there being no saving option is still triggering me every time I see this menu.Or at least a way to save progress, either manually with a warning message to give us a chance to save. Or, better yet, the warning message can be clicked to extend the time. Of course, that won't help the folks who make tea while creating a character....
When you are searching for name references in the internet or you are trying to build nice names or searching screenshots outside of the game it doens't really help you as well.Ragged_Claw wrote: »Or at least a way to save progress, either manually with a warning message to give us a chance to save. Or, better yet, the warning message can be clicked to extend the time. Of course, that won't help the folks who make tea while creating a character....
I'll admit to wandering off to make a cup of tea or feed the cats... Perhaps a warning message with a really loud beep would help
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✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »The worst is when you are not even inactive, typing in multiple names. All of sudden logged out. Guess I couldn’t find a name not taken.
Didn't know it is a thing. I choose the name beforehand. One more reason to separate and increase the timer, I suppose.Just editing a char does not time out (unless one takes a 2+min to meditate looks / making tea / toilet break) but trying different names after getting it perfect does not count as being active and does too often eats the work.
I myself prefer as short name as possible so choosing one that is not already in use can take some significant tries. I think I've timed out on naming every character I've created at least once.EU PC: @logarifmik | Languages: Русский, English
Dimitri Frernis | Breton Sorcerer | Damage Dealer | Daggerfall Covenant
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✭That is not the worst thing that can happen. FYI: if your char is ready to be saved, but you are too curious and decide to check what other races will look like with those sliders, after you go back to the race you've been working so hard on it will look the same. HOWEVER! After saving you will realize that there is a bug and the eyebrows slider got reset. I lost 1 token in that way....
Since I've done all changes I wanted I decided not to submit a ticket.. Whatever..0
