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Doubled dmg in PVP?
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IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Quote(me) = Just saying this from a pvp perspective: If this goes live.... You´ll be sooooooorrrrry There are some really messed up combos where you can abuse the crap out of this passive.
Reaction=If You're talking about ganking or using cloak that gives auto crit on next attack then khajit still is getting nerfed on playstyles like that because of the loss of 10% more stealth dmg passive.
Or
Don't even bother with this guy. When DUnmer was getting 500 less DPS than Altmer, he QQed about how unfair it was. Now Khajiit gets 1k less in everything and now such low DPS does not matter.
ROFL in German there's a word for this. Its called "Schadenfreude"Edited by IlCanis_LupuslI on February 26, 2019 8:08PM
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Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.2 -
LordTareq✭✭✭✭✭I don´t know if u realized but siege isn´t the only thing dealing absurd dmg right now. Players dealing alot more dmg aswell, getting hit by 14k assasins will without any kind of debuff whatsoever, can´t sustain fights anymore when I used to 2days ago, just sort of feeling a big difference in terms of dmg output, even on my part I see myself dealing way more dmg or more dmg than I should be doing.
Exact same experience, I take more damage, do more damage, and sustain less well. But I can't prove it. Very odd.Edited by LordTareq on February 27, 2019 1:44AM2 -
Davadin✭✭✭✭✭
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same observation since patch goes live. I'm taking way more damage now. especially nightblades blowing me up with 8k+ damages, and I'm a heavy armor DK with full pvp Golden gear that I've been playing for years....
oh well. Live and learn i suppose.August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber3 -
fullheartcontainer✭✭✭✭I'M NOT CRAZY THANK YOU
Since the patch, there seems to be a ton of nightblades everywhere and they all hit like trucks, killing me before I can react. Something is going crazy wonky with damage right now4 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
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Jokes console hasn’t got this yet so I haven’t felt ur guys pain 😭Deathlord92 wrote: »Well I got to say to everyone here is L2p 😊
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Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Maybe they broke Battle Spirit?
Thats also my guess aswell. The idea is actually fun though. Halved TTK would make CP campaign finally bearable for me. Though I don't think I would want to play a melee build in no-CP at this point though. And well, I didn't go to cyrodiil yet but I played a few bgs, my damage didn't felt higher than it should be really.Edited by Ragnarock41 on February 27, 2019 9:20AM0 -
Left4Daud✭✭✭✭✭
✭I switched my gear around so I thought maybe I just needed to get used to the bars / resistance differences. Thought it was weird that a Magblade running Earthgore was hitting me harder than stamblades last week. Will be interesting to see the patch notes on this one.1 -
voldran✭✭So yet again the plan is to drift towards the zergs. You must have a zerg to heal you otherwise you get killed by a ballista or an incap with assassins will. So does it matter anymore how much resistance you have? or you can one shot again people in CP campaign.Sotha PC EU
Dravron Stormwing - MagSorc || Voldros Nightwing - MagBlade || Zorvo Morningstar - MagPlar || Dracos Nightwing - Mag/Stam DK0 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭People forgot that some races got a 258 flat bonus on spell or weapon damage.
Yes. This is allarmingI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
bardx86✭✭✭✭✭
✭IMO damage needed to go up. Healing was way to strong in BG's. Groups stacking would never die.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People forgot that some races got a 258 flat bonus on spell or weapon damage.
Yes. This is allarming
258 DMG isn't going to turn a 7k incap after resists into a 9-10k.
It's shadow kitty. 103% chd, is a 1.53 after 3k resistance.
A 103 needs like 7k crit resist to fully negate it. You need trans or impreg to see the same DMG mitigation you saw before theupdate.
But I'd rather see a crit resist mundas+crit resist jewel traits honestly; the chd stacking was an issue before WS update and just needsa like more tweak.Edited by Minno on February 27, 2019 2:34PMMinno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Theignson✭✭✭✭✭I run max resists and 3k critical resists and also notice dizzying swing (7-9k now), dawnbreakers hitting harder than before patch. Also some NB spells. But not all players are hitting this hard.2 GOs, an overlord and bunches of prefects etc-- all classes...I've wasted a lot of time in PVP0
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Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So yet again the plan is to drift towards the zergs. You must have a zerg to heal you otherwise you get killed by a ballista or an incap with assassins will. So does it matter anymore how much resistance you have? or you can one shot again people in CP campaign.
I just went to the CP campaign today and well, time to kill was as boring as usual outside of when I get hit by siege. That actually hurts. Other than that I ran around in medium armor, found 4-5 EP and well, they couldn't kill me and I couldn't kill them , much to my suprise they ended up dying to a fire ballista after 10 minutes of non stop fighting and los abusing.Edited by Ragnarock41 on February 27, 2019 3:22PM0 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭People forgot that some races got a 258 flat bonus on spell or weapon damage.
Yes. This is allarming
258 DMG isn't going to turn a 7k incap after resists into a 9-10k.
It's shadow kitty. 103% chd, is a 1.53 after 3k resistance.
A 103 needs like 7k crit resist to fully negate it. You need trans or impreg to see the same DMG mitigation you saw before theupdate.
But I'd rather see a crit resist mundas+crit resist jewel traits honestly; the chd stacking was an issue before WS update and just needsa like more tweak.
Are you scure. An avarage weapon damage is 3.3k with a nightblade. with a buffable 258 it goes close to 4k. +8% of berserk+ pen.
It's very close to a 2k buffI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
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WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭11k snipes everywhere, insane DoTs
I think Battle Spirit has gone wonkyPC EU3 -
Nerftheforums✭✭✭✭✭
✭People forgot that some races got a 258 flat bonus on spell or weapon damage.
Yes. This is allarming
258 DMG isn't going to turn a 7k incap after resists into a 9-10k.
It's shadow kitty. 103% chd, is a 1.53 after 3k resistance.
A 103 needs like 7k crit resist to fully negate it. You need trans or impreg to see the same DMG mitigation you saw before theupdate.
But I'd rather see a crit resist mundas+crit resist jewel traits honestly; the chd stacking was an issue before WS update and just needsa like more tweak.
Are you scure. An avarage weapon damage is 3.3k with a nightblade. with a buffable 258 it goes close to 4k. +8% of berserk+ pen.
It's very close to a 2k buff
3.3k? Slander, my friend, you are clueless. The average (good) nb wd is around 4.3/5k. And this is on spriggan's builds.Edited by Nerftheforums on February 27, 2019 4:03PM0 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ive noticed an increase in my own dmg, by quite a bit, and also increase in the inc dmg.
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Crixus8000✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't notice a difference most of the time, but sometimes there does seem to be damage spikes, like in one fight I got hit 7.4k frags ( never, ever been hit that high in 2 years of playing and im on the tankiest setup I have played) and also hit a 10k snipe. Just seems odd when I have 30k resists and full impen.Edited by Crixus8000 on February 27, 2019 5:26PM2 -
iCaliban✭✭✭✭✭
✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »11k snipes everywhere, insane DoTs
I think Battle Spirit has gone wonky
Something feels very off.4 -
WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Crixus8000 wrote: »I don't notice a difference most of the time, but sometimes there does seem to be damage spikes, like in one fight I got hit 7.4k frags ( never, ever been hit that high in 2 years of playing and im on the tankiest setup I have played) and also hit a 10k snipe. Just seems odd when I have 30k resists and full impen.
I run a lot of resists usually. Like, Pariah, so I can see 40k resists at 60% health.
To test I took the set off for this evenings PvP. You know what? I didn't even notice losing 10k resists lol.PC EU1 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »Crixus8000 wrote: »I don't notice a difference most of the time, but sometimes there does seem to be damage spikes, like in one fight I got hit 7.4k frags ( never, ever been hit that high in 2 years of playing and im on the tankiest setup I have played) and also hit a 10k snipe. Just seems odd when I have 30k resists and full impen.
I run a lot of resists usually. Like, Pariah, so I can see 40k resists at 60% health.
To test I took the set off for this evenings PvP. You know what? I didn't even notice losing 10k resists lol.
It's not battlespirit. My dark flares the first night were hitting for 5k each cast which means mitigation is also working, because my tooltip is like 18k on the same thing fully buffed.
You all are fighting 103% CHD modifiers kitty blades lol.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual1 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nerftheforums wrote: »People forgot that some races got a 258 flat bonus on spell or weapon damage.
Yes. This is allarming
258 DMG isn't going to turn a 7k incap after resists into a 9-10k.
It's shadow kitty. 103% chd, is a 1.53 after 3k resistance.
A 103 needs like 7k crit resist to fully negate it. You need trans or impreg to see the same DMG mitigation you saw before theupdate.
But I'd rather see a crit resist mundas+crit resist jewel traits honestly; the chd stacking was an issue before WS update and just needsa like more tweak.
Are you scure. An avarage weapon damage is 3.3k with a nightblade. with a buffable 258 it goes close to 4k. +8% of berserk+ pen.
It's very close to a 2k buff
3.3k? Slander, my friend, you are clueless. The average (good) nb wd is around 4.3/5k. And this is on spriggan's builds.
and if you plug in those increases, youll find a 10k tooltip goes up to like 12k. But if you calculate 10k times 1.588, youll get 15880 crits on your "perfect" 3k crit resists.
But incap can be like 20k so 1.588 of that is 31760 lol. After armor penetrated (0.8), hardy (0.9), iron clad (0.8), minor protection (0.92)= 16830 roughly.
Slot trans/impreg. Only way to see mitigation you are used to seeing go back to normal, sorry.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭At least people will stop complaining about heavy armor.
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Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.1 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »Crixus8000 wrote: »I don't notice a difference most of the time, but sometimes there does seem to be damage spikes, like in one fight I got hit 7.4k frags ( never, ever been hit that high in 2 years of playing and im on the tankiest setup I have played) and also hit a 10k snipe. Just seems odd when I have 30k resists and full impen.
I run a lot of resists usually. Like, Pariah, so I can see 40k resists at 60% health.
To test I took the set off for this evenings PvP. You know what? I didn't even notice losing 10k resists lol.
Becusee you’re so far over cap at that point that even fracture won’t bring you down. Imo resists of around 24-26k in medium not counting bloodspawn is a pretty good place.0 -
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✭I run around in no CP with zero crit resist and havn't noticed a change in damage.no CP PvP PC/EU
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭Maybe something is up with attacks from stealth. We will not know for sure if there is anything up with battle spirit or not, if nobody tests it. So ask a buddy from a different faction and test in cyrodiil: compare damage tooltips and actual damage and you maybe will see something.
Maybe that explains the 10k incap plus 8k snipe in no cp pvp from yesterday....0 -
WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »Crixus8000 wrote: »I don't notice a difference most of the time, but sometimes there does seem to be damage spikes, like in one fight I got hit 7.4k frags ( never, ever been hit that high in 2 years of playing and im on the tankiest setup I have played) and also hit a 10k snipe. Just seems odd when I have 30k resists and full impen.
I run a lot of resists usually. Like, Pariah, so I can see 40k resists at 60% health.
To test I took the set off for this evenings PvP. You know what? I didn't even notice losing 10k resists lol.
It's not battlespirit. My dark flares the first night were hitting for 5k each cast which means mitigation is also working, because my tooltip is like 18k on the same thing fully buffed.
You all are fighting 103% CHD modifiers kitty blades lol.
In no CP?WillhelmBlack wrote: »Crixus8000 wrote: »I don't notice a difference most of the time, but sometimes there does seem to be damage spikes, like in one fight I got hit 7.4k frags ( never, ever been hit that high in 2 years of playing and im on the tankiest setup I have played) and also hit a 10k snipe. Just seems odd when I have 30k resists and full impen.
I run a lot of resists usually. Like, Pariah, so I can see 40k resists at 60% health.
To test I took the set off for this evenings PvP. You know what? I didn't even notice losing 10k resists lol.
Becusee you’re so far over cap at that point that even fracture won’t bring you down. Imo resists of around 24-26k in medium not counting bloodspawn is a pretty good place.
I'm at 29k now fully buffed in heavy. I'd like to get that in medium but impreg is better in medium. Impreg heavy lol?PC EU0