Magicka Builds Are Awesome, Because of Class Skills

Vaerth

But I do not use them. I have tested it before. But, at the end of the day, even when I love all class skills way more than weapon skills... I hate, with a passion, using a staff

ZoS... Please make a viable Magicka build that does not require / scale off of only a staff.

Yedax

I love Magicka Nightblade, I absolutely despise throwing fireballs and raining meteors down from the sky, really doesn't feel Nightblade like, you know. I wish weapon skills and the like would have a different appearance based on what class you are playing, I just feel like a Sorcerer with shadowy abilities.

Enrif

Wouldn't it be better if all class skills just scale of and use your higher stat? thus all those stamina morphs could be something more interesting then just the same skill but with stamina

Vaerth

Enrif wrote: »

Wouldn't it be better if all class skills just scale of and use your higher stat? thus all those stamina morphs could be something more interesting then just the same skill but with stamina

Yup, been saying that for quite some time now. That would allow us to (shockingly) play our own way and still be viable for group content

Vaerth

Yedax wrote: »

I love Magicka Nightblade, I absolutely despise throwing fireballs and raining meteors down from the sky, really doesn't feel Nightblade like, you know. I wish weapon skills and the like would have a different appearance based on what class you are playing, I just feel like a Sorcerer with shadowy abilities.

Exactly, I can not enjoy either of my NB if they are not Stamina based. The irony is that I made 2 NB, one for Magicka and one for Stamina. Could not stand seeing a fireball or lightning bolt from my Blood build. Was so off looking, that I had to redo the whole character to Stamina lol. Only reason he was not deleted is because he is on AD and my other NB is on EP.

VaranisArano

Magicka Builds need more Weapon options.

Stamina builds need more Class Skill options.

Vaerth

VaranisArano wrote: »

Magicka Builds need more Weapon options.

Stamina builds need more Class Skill options.

This should be pinned to the top of the forums

Nerouyn

Enrif wrote: »

Wouldn't it be better if all class skills just scale of and use your higher stat? thus all those stamina morphs could be something more interesting then just the same skill but with stamina

Nope.

Just don't scale off any of the resource stats.

That's how the Elder Scrolls single player games work. That's how every other single player and multiplayer online game I've played (which is a lot) worked.

Resources like magicka and stamina are just for spending on abilities. Their total shouldn't affect the strength thereof.

Most likely it does in ESO because scaling for magic in Skyrim sucked balls compared to weapons, which could be significantly boosted with smithing and enchanting. Magic had nothing comparable so fell way behind late game. A simple but not necessarily great fix was to make magic damage scale from max magicka.

WoppaBoem

Go for magDK with S&B or Dual Wield, You can also go for melee range for a Magplar. That is not possible across the board but if you really wanted to really wanted you would make one this on a personal note.

It would be great for some mix up changes in the weapons, I really like staffs but I get the fact for many people it feels less diverse compared to stam.

eliisra

Stamina builds are more limited in terms of class skills and magicka builds have less weapon skills. So it's obviously fair in a way, but can still hope for improvement and more diversity!

I sort of agree it's boring that magicka builds only have different types of staffs to choose from. What to do if you dislike staffs? But I guess it's a matter of lore. They can't just introduce new primary weapon types like totems, sceptre, wands etc.

Spellsword or battle mage archetype exists in TES though, so adding a sword skill-line for magicka would be really be cool!

NordSwordnBoard

Alas, poor dual wield Sorc, I knew him well....

Vaerth

eliisra wrote: »

Stamina builds are more limited in terms of class skills and magicka builds have less weapon skills. So it's obviously fair in a way, but can still hope for improvement and more diversity!

I sort of agree it's boring that magicka builds only have different types of staffs to choose from. What to do if you dislike staffs? But I guess it's a matter of lore. They can't just introduce new primary weapon types like totems, sceptre, wands etc.

Spellsword or battle mage archetype exists in TES though, so adding a sword skill-line for magicka would be really be cool!

Uhh, Lore wise and in other ESO games you do not need a staff at all to cast a spell, it is done bare hands. 1H and Magicka is more lore friendly than a staff

Tasear

Enrif wrote: »

Wouldn't it be better if all class skills just scale of and use your higher stat? thus all those stamina morphs could be something more interesting then just the same skill but with stamina

This is interesting

Vaerth

WoppaBoem wrote: »

Go for magDK with S&B or Dual Wield, You can also go for melee range for a Magplar. That is not possible across the board but if you really wanted to really wanted you would make one this on a personal note.

It would be great for some mix up changes in the weapons, I really like staffs but I get the fact for many people it feels less diverse compared to stam.

As I already have mentioned, I want to be able to do group activities.

Thanks

Vaerth

Tasear wrote: »

Enrif wrote: »

Wouldn't it be better if all class skills just scale of and use your higher stat? thus all those stamina morphs could be something more interesting then just the same skill but with stamina

This is interesting

Agreed

TheShadowScout

Vaerth wrote: »

But I do not use them. I have tested it before. But, at the end of the day, even when I love all class skills way more than weapon skills... I hate, with a passion, using a staff

ZoS... Please make a viable Magicka build that does not require / scale off of only a staff.

All magica builds are viable and do not scale off a staff, but off, well, magica.

...but you still beed the darn stick for resource management, and sometimes, well... that just messes with a really nifty character setup!

A goth magsorc "daedric cultist" that has to mix lightning into their beloved dark crystals?
A magblade "blood mage" - that has to use a firestaff in all the red magic?
A nature-loving magden who cannot have a green nature staff?
And soon, a necromancer without the signature "coldfire" staff???

We really need morestaff flavor options.

And what about the staves themselves... not everyone wants to carry a stick, right? At the very least there should be an alternate weapon for resto and destro magic... and there also should be more options when it comes to skill lines for mages! Like, One-handed and magic for those spellsword types, and once we have an offhand magic wand/rune/whatever, there is no reason not to let mages dual-wield those for an "twin fisted magic-slinger" setup, riiiight??

Been there, posted that: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-ii

Enrif wrote: »

Wouldn't it be better if all class skills just scale of and use your higher stat? thus all those stamina morphs could be something more interesting then just the same skill but with stamina

No, it would not.
Because then it would make all characters exactly the same - the fun is in having -differences- and needing to make a choice either way. More options would be fun, making the options mean less would not!