Warden frost suggestions

stevenyaub16_ESO

I've just been reading through some of the warden concerns, and I wanted to throw in some ideas.

I personally do not believe wardens should be equal in terms of damage per second vs other classes, But I do think they should be ON PAR with them in terms of usefulness and have good utility to bring to the table that other DD classes would not.

Reworking some useless unpicked skills would be a good start:

Old: Arctic blast
Envelop yourself in winter winds, healing for 15% of Max Health instantly and an additional 10% Health over 10 seconds.
The targeted enemy is stunned for 3 seconds.

New: Biting Winds
Envelops target with Biting winds, deal x amount of damage to it and enemies within 4 meters for 10 seconds. The damage increasing over it's duration.

Old: Frozen Retreat
Summon an ancient portal, which arms after 1.5 seconds and lasts for 30 seconds.
When triggered the enemy is teleported to you, immobilized for 3 seconds, and dealt 636 Frost Damage
An ally in the portal can activate Icy escape synergy, teleporting them to you and granting them Major Expedition, increasing their Movement Speed by 30% for 8 seconds.
You can have up to 3 Frozen Retreats active at a time.

New: Frozen Prison
Summons a ward, which arms after 1.5 seconds and lasts for 30 seconds.
When triggered the Prison activates and deals XX frost damage for 8 seconds. If an enemy tries to leave the prison and are rooted for 1.5 seconds, or stunned for 1.5 seconds if affected by chill.

Also changing this passive would be a good idea since right now it only applies one skill (and one ultimate).

Old: Glacial presence
1. Increase the chance of applying Chilled to enemies with Winter's Embrace abilities by 100%
2. Increase the chance of applying Chilled to enemies with Winter's Embrace abilities by 200%

New: Glacial presence
1. Increase the chance of applying Chilled to enemies with Frost abilities by 75%
2. Increase the chance of applying Chilled to enemies with Frost abilities by 150%

Feel free to throw in your own ideas or criticise these. I strongly believe that we should not all be doing exactly the same thing (dps wise, but instead fill different roles like the MMOs of old.)

ESO_Nightingale

Certainly would be better than what we have now. And we do need more synergy with chilled along with an actual stun. If you haven't already, i recommend joining the frost discord. More people means more ideas. We could even include yours. Your Biting Winds and Frozen Prison ideas have been suggested before in similar forms. I like the "root. if chilled, stun instead" idea a lot actually. But we need to stray away from raw damage skills.

If you want magden to be more useful with utility, you'd need to include a useful synergy and/or a group damage buff like with minor courage.

alexj4596b14_ESO

I said something similar. There are a number of issues with Warden but the main problem is the 3 skill trees we do have don't synergizes with themselfs first nor do they synergize well with any of weapon or guild skills. Wardens are buff utility bots in the current form. Which is nice because they are Tanky and full CCs but damage abilities don't synergize.

Make the artic Wind do DOT in a radius and heal for X % of the damage or apply damage boosting buff to targets in the radius would be great. Them make the lotus do something else along with give the crit buff.

The last move on the Ice tree needs to be completely reworked into something useful. It would be nice if it was a single target attack.

The bird needs to be unblockle.

Winters embrace would be better if it applied to all frost based attacks.

The reps do have things planned and the class update is coming next either with big content drop or after.

ESO_Nightingale

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

I said something similar. There are a number of issues with Warden but the main problem is the 3 skill trees we do have don't synergizes with themselfs first nor do they synergize well with any of weapon or guild skills. Wardens are buff utility bots in the current form. Which is nice because they are Tanky and full CCs but damage abilities don't synergize.

Make the artic Wind do DOT in a radius and heal for X % of the damage or apply damage boosting buff to targets in the radius would be great.

The last move on the Ice tree needs to be completely reworked into something useful. It would be nice if it was a single target attack.

The bird needs to be unblockle.

Winters embrace would be better if it applied to all frost based attacks.

The reps do have things planned and the class update is coming next either with big content drop or after.

The Biting Wind idea is almost identical to my Arctic Wind Master Plan. You dont need to tell me what warden is and what it needs. I know, and I've been arguing for it for several months. The class was poorly planned and executed and people are extremely upset over magden. Lots of people expected a damaging cryomancer. But they didn't get that. They got the least useful mag dps class in pve with the least damage and group viability with unrelateable animals and a slapped-on element. We have room to make a cryomancer AND more warden dps skills because of Winter's Embrace's poor morphs. You already identified 2, but there are 2 others. The list is:

Expancive Frost Cloak
Arctic Blast
Crystallized Slab
And Frozen Gate.

Soundles1990

Im actually using Artic blast. I like the heal and the stun, thats exactly what i need. All this skill needs is a buff. 15% Heal and 15% extra heal over 8 seconds + 3 seconds "unblockable and undodgeable" stun would be nice and fine. Just dont change this skill completly to something else..

alexj4596b14_ESO

Soundles1990 wrote: »

Im actually using Artic blast. I like the heal and the stun, thats exactly what i need. All this skill needs is a buff. 15% Heal and 15% extra heal over 8 seconds + 3 seconds "unblockable and undodgeable" stun would be nice and fine. Just dont change this skill completly to something else..

What content are you playing? Also a morph
with the stun is fine but the other version should be a damage move.

ESO_Nightingale

Soundles1990 wrote: »

Im actually using Artic blast. I like the heal and the stun, thats exactly what i need. All this skill needs is a buff. 15% Heal and 15% extra heal over 8 seconds + 3 seconds "unblockable and undodgeable" stun would be nice and fine. Just dont change this skill completly to something else..

This skill needs a massive buff. Nearly useless in its current form.