Lizard-like animals from Murkmire: where did they come from?

logarifmik

Is there any lore explanation for lizard-bears, lizard-horses, lizard-senches and such? Maybe an in-game book or something? They look man-made to me.

Aliyavana

The book https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Scaly_Steeds_of_Black_Marsh explains that the hist liked the forms of the mounts the other races had and made them based on them. They have a similar origin to argonian themselves. Here is a UESP note on both things

"The Argonians have an allegory known as the Parable of Becoming that exists to explain Argonian’s humanoid form. It states that the Hist found the forms of humans and mer useful and then molded the swamp’s lizard’s forms after them to form Argonians. Scholars believe that the Helstrom Ancestor Lizard is what Argonians were uplifted from. Adding to this theory, the Argonian Mere-Glim had a vision while on Umbriel. Within this vision Mere-Glim experienced being a lizard living every day and year the same until the root and taste of sap came bringing changes to both body and mind. Similarly, theories exist that the hist also mimicked the forms of the mounts of both humans and mer, from horses, to the senches, all the way to the camel, to be used for Argonians to ride long distances."https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Argonian

Korah_Eaglecry

ZOS is making the lore up as they go. Which in of itself isnt a bad thing since ESO generally is here to fill in gaps in the lore for this period and Tamriel overall. But the case of lizard mounts being lizard versions of other types of mounts is just down right lazy. Instead of creating new animations for new lizard mounts theyre slapping a skin on the preexisting animations and using some poorly crafted excuse as a lore reason.

Sekt_Tiberlus

Argonian boimancy. They use hist-magic to reshape living forms for their uses. One tribe, that like to use frost spells even created the frozen and chilled version of a senche-lizard.

“This Chilling Senche-Lizard is quite rare; it comes from very deep in the swamp, from a tribe said to be dedicated to Frost spells as a means of living longer by living slower. Their Hist tree even drips with icicles (whatever they are)!” —Ukaspa

But, not only the standart lizard-mounts. One of the daily gifts include guar with gills with lore-description. Also created by tribe, that not presented in Murkmire.

“These Glowgill Guar mounts come from a coastal tribe over near Archon. Handsome, are they not? I’ve been told thet can breathe underwater through those gills, though personally, I have never tested this.” – Ukaspa, Stablemaster of Lilmoth.

Capabilities of hist-magic and alteration are unlimited.

SirAndy

logarifmik wrote: »

They look man-made to me.

Probably Mer-made ...

GChaseXmas

I don't think there is any lore book out on them, if there is my answer is probably irrelevant. I mean maybe you have some magic ritual that turned the lizards' shape/form. Or in the alternative the ritual turns horses/senches/bears/etc into lizard-esque creatures. I mean I'd like to think it isn't cross-breeding because getting a lizard and a horse to breed . . . lol

Itzmichi

My guess: Argonian humped a bear,senche and horse!:)

PrayingSeraph

When a camel and a Lusty Argonian Maid love eachother very very much...

Scythe_Mercer

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

When a camel and a Lusty Argonian Maid love eachother very very much...

Pretty sure that’s Bosmer, at least an isolated as hell clan of them.

Nisekev

They came from the skeleton model of main types of mounts and normal mounts barely fitting into marshland-themed crate. Whatever lore excuse ZOS came up with doesn't convince me there weren't some less lazy way to use those models instead of turning them into some mutant lizards and slapping a "Hist made them" sticker.

Alucardo

Dude, I just played Murkmire for the first time a few days ago since coming back to ESO. My housemate came into my room because I was making a lot of noise and asked what was up.
My completely uncontrolled and excessive response was me shouting "LIZARD BEARS WTF"

In other news, I need to get out more.