Armour sets for Stamina Solo PvE and maybe PvP

Iziquiel

Hi, I have a Stam Sorc that's just hit lvl 50 and I'm thinking ahead to what armour sets I could use.

I play 90% of the time solo PvE, and my main ambition is to be very survivable, but I would like to start doing s bit of PvP too.

Are there are any sets you would recommend me looking at, especially crafted and overland sets. Hunding's Rage, Seventh Legion Brute?

Also I would like to know more about how I can know which of my 2 sets my main weapons should come from

TBois

The two sets you listed are good. Briarheart would be a good set to pick up for those types of gameplay as well.

Iskiab

I’m in a similar situation, I just leveled a stam alt to 50 through pvp. I’ll tell you one thing, 50 pvp is a lot different and the TTK (total time to kill) is way lower (meaning how fast someone can blow you up).

I just switched to impregnable armour and it’s a bit better than 2 dps sets. If you want to be able to melee you have to spec more defensively. Otherwise you can get bursted in two seconds.

Soris

Bone pirate, hundings, automaton, veiled heritence, furry, 7th legion, ravager etc they are all good sets for pvp and pve.

For pvp and brawler type of gamestyle you must go all impenetrable traits on your gear. 3k crit resist is the bare minimum for
CP campaigns and i believe 2k is for noCP (btw crit resist is useless in pve as mobs dont have crit dmg)
Then you might use protective traits on your jewelries OR one piece pirate skeleton and one piece lord warden as monster set. If you wear heavy armor with this setup, then you will have around 30k armor and resist which is just under the cap. That way you can use 2 damage sets and still can tank quite well.

My suggestions is, build a good tank first. Then gradually remove some defense add more damage to your build as you become more comfortable with the playstyle and the game.

SoLooney

Vicious ophidian, two fanged snake, bone pirate, advancing yokeda, relequen, hundings, automaton, night mothers gaze if you lack major fracture, briarheart

Iziquiel

Thanks for the responses! Really helpful.

Would you put 2 sets together like 7th Legion and Veiled Heritance or Briarheart and Spriggan's Thorns? (I chose them randomly). I can see why these sets are good - Stamina, Weapon Damage, Weapon Crit, Resistance - but I'm unsure of the best way of knowing which set goes well with another and so ending up with more of a stat than I really need

TBois

Iziquiel wrote: »

Thanks for the responses! Really helpful.

Would you put 2 sets together like 7th Legion and Veiled Heritance or Briarheart and Spriggan's Thorns? (I chose them randomly). I can see why these sets are good - Stamina, Weapon Damage, Weapon Crit, Resistance - but I'm unsure of the best way of knowing which set goes well with another and so ending up with more of a stat than I really need

That will come with knowledge, experience, and your preferred playstyle. Generally speaking a good place to start would be to stack the same thing with each set, but this becomes a bit more complicated as their are certain caps, like penetration which has a cap dependent on the target. So night mother's gaze + spriggans will be good against high resistance targets like in pvp, but you might hit the cap and waste some set bonus in pve.

Iziquiel

Thank you, that's good to know! Are the caps for PvE available anywhere?

TBois

Iziquiel wrote: »

Thank you, that's good to know! Are the caps for PvE available anywhere?

PvE armor is at 18.2k always I'm pretty sure, but I'm a PvP main. It's possible that I'm wrong on that. Keep in mind that debuffs put on npcs by your group mates will factor into your damage calculations. So in a fully optimized 12 man raid you could hit cap without much penetration in your build.

El_Borracho

Iziquiel wrote: »

Thanks for the responses! Really helpful.

Would you put 2 sets together like 7th Legion and Veiled Heritance or Briarheart and Spriggan's Thorns? (I chose them randomly). I can see why these sets are good - Stamina, Weapon Damage, Weapon Crit, Resistance - but I'm unsure of the best way of knowing which set goes well with another and so ending up with more of a stat than I really need

For PVE: Meta is Relequen body + Advancing Yokeda weapons and jewelry. Hundlings + Briarheart/Spriggans works very well. Vicious Ophidian is the king of stamina sustain. Heard of some people mixing Hundlings/VO with Veiled Heritance weapons & jewelry. Someone said Bone Pirate works in PVE. It can, but you can get better results with something like VO. You main goal is to max damage, crit and sustain. Tons of stamina and regen are great, but your weapon damage will suffer. Just as too much weapon damage and crit will leave you with a smaller stamina pool. Heavy armor doesn't do much for you in PVE. Its the heavy sets weapons and jewelry that work, like Advancing Yokeda. Survivability should not be a problem with medium divines armor in PVE, especially if you get the right food and glyphs on your weapons.

For PVP: Avoid Relequen, Advancing Yokeda, VO, or really any crit sets. They do not perform well in PVP. Bone Pirate + Spriggans is a great combo. Vipers Sting, Torug's Pact, Shacklebreaker, and Impregnable are also great. You can run medium armor with impen traits and be successful. Heavy works but you will have a tankier build.

As for weapons, more people are running DW in PVP, but typically the 2H are preferred for melee. There are better PVP-specific skills with 2H, though there are the "spin to win" builds with DW. Conversely, DW is king in PVE. Better sustain, better damage. 2H is viable, but not preferred.

GrumpyDuckling

In PVP this setup could definitely help with survival:

5 Briarheart (Front bar weapons, and jewelry)
5 Willow's Path
2 Troll King
2 Master Bow (Back bar weapon)

You'll want to time your burst when Briarheart is up because that's your main source of damage after Master Bow. You should be getting enough healing back to go all-out on attack without worrying too much. If you get focused on while attacking then you can roll dodge and heal because you'll have a some nice passive healing stacking up.

You can also add Werewolf into this build as well.

Edit: Forgot to mention Master Bow -- added it in. Same with Werewolf.

Iziquiel

TBois wrote: »

Iziquiel wrote: »

Thank you, that's good to know! Are the caps for PvE available anywhere?

PvE armor is at 18.2k always I'm pretty sure, but I'm a PvP main. It's possible that I'm wrong on that. Keep in mind that debuffs put on npcs by your group mates will factor into your damage calculations. So in a fully optimized 12 man raid you could hit cap without much penetration in your build.

Thanks, that's great to know

El_Borracho wrote: »

Iziquiel wrote: »

Thanks for the responses! Really helpful.

Would you put 2 sets together like 7th Legion and Veiled Heritance or Briarheart and Spriggan's Thorns? (I chose them randomly). I can see why these sets are good - Stamina, Weapon Damage, Weapon Crit, Resistance - but I'm unsure of the best way of knowing which set goes well with another and so ending up with more of a stat than I really need

For PVE: Meta is Relequen body + Advancing Yokeda weapons and jewelry. Hundlings + Briarheart/Spriggans works very well. Vicious Ophidian is the king of stamina sustain. Heard of some people mixing Hundlings/VO with Veiled Heritance weapons & jewelry. Someone said Bone Pirate works in PVE. It can, but you can get better results with something like VO. You main goal is to max damage, crit and sustain. Tons of stamina and regen are great, but your weapon damage will suffer. Just as too much weapon damage and crit will leave you with a smaller stamina pool. Heavy armor doesn't do much for you in PVE. Its the heavy sets weapons and jewelry that work, like Advancing Yokeda. Survivability should not be a problem with medium divines armor in PVE, especially if you get the right food and glyphs on your weapons.

For PVP: Avoid Relequen, Advancing Yokeda, VO, or really any crit sets. They do not perform well in PVP. Bone Pirate + Spriggans is a great combo. Vipers Sting, Torug's Pact, Shacklebreaker, and Impregnable are also great. You can run medium armor with impen traits and be successful. Heavy works but you will have a tankier build.

As for weapons, more people are running DW in PVP, but typically the 2H are preferred for melee. There are better PVP-specific skills with 2H, though there are the "spin to win" builds with DW. Conversely, DW is king in PVE. Better sustain, better damage. 2H is viable, but not preferred.

Thanks, as I mainly play solo I'm not sure I will be in a position to get the Meta sets, but I could get Hundings + Briarheart/Spriggans/Veiled Heritance.

I suspect with time I will move more into playing PvP, partly because I prefer 2H, so great to know which sets to get for there as well!

John_Falstaff

Solo PvE means mostly overland, questing, delving, public dungeons, Maelstrom? Current meta - Relequen + AY - may not perform in those conditions: by the time you got those sets up and running, your targets are already dead.

For lightweight PvE and dungeoning, I'm yet to find better single set than Vicious Ophidian. It's not -the- most damage done, it's just cozy. It's like a drug, you do get addicted to it - great sustain, great mobility. So I'll add my voice to the others - if you're not opposed to running normal Craglorn trials, take some time and farm VO, chances are you'll love the set. And mobility and sustain are both integral components of survivability.

Pair with Briarheart for a little heal, or with Leviathan that will fuel your Surge with criticals - will also make you more survivable while boosting your damage.

Elwendryll

Iziquiel wrote: »

I suspect with time I will move more into playing PvP, partly because I prefer 2H, so great to know which sets to get for there as well!

I also prefer 2H, and I was tired of playing DW for 2 years, so I made a build with 2H.
Leviathan Body, Veiled Heritance jewelry and weapon. Maelstrom bow...

Just to let you know it works, I have 35-36k dps solo buffed with it on a sorcerer. I did depths of Malatar vet twice yesterday with it, I had around 50% of the group dps.

You could probably get better results with DW on optimal setups, sure. But I personally perform better with that than with my previous DW build (before the patch), partly because I have executioner available. You need to tweak your CP a little too.

Anyway, you don't have to choose between pve and pvp, although some morphs are BiS in pve while the other is BiS in pvp (Dawnbreaker for example).

Edit: The absolute best set combination I could recommend you for soloing with a stamsorc is Vicious Ophidian + Night Mother Gaze with Iceheart monster set and a Maelstrom bow.

Iceheart is a magicka set, BUT, it gives you a nearly 10k shield that lasts 6 seconds every 6 seconds, with fixed AOE damage, It works well with Critical surge and hurricane.

Vyvrhel

Veiled Heritance is certainly good, if you can get the weapons which are expensive (daggers are sold for insane prices). I have almost 100% uptime on dummy. Not bad.

Elwendryll

Vyvrhel wrote: »

Veiled Heritance is certainly good, if you can get the weapons which are expensive (daggers are sold for insane prices). I have almost 100% uptime on dummy. Not bad.

It drops in auridon. I sent my little brother in a public dungeon and asked him to farm while I was doing pvp He got me the dagger in like 30 minutes, while I have been farming for 2 days prior to that. I already had an axe, and the jewelry are easy to get. But the dagger prices are indeed insane, around ~70k gold.

Vyvrhel

Elwendryll wrote: »

Vyvrhel wrote: »

Veiled Heritance is certainly good, if you can get the weapons which are expensive (daggers are sold for insane prices). I have almost 100% uptime on dummy. Not bad.

It drops in auridon. I sent my little brother in a public dungeon and asked him to farm while I was doing pvp He got me the dagger in like 30 minutes, while I have been farming for 2 days prior to that. I already had an axe, and the jewelry are easy to get. But the dagger prices are indeed insane, around ~70k gold.

I know, I have been farming it for myself. Infused or Sharpened dagger costs 300k+ (as shown on TTC). Funny thing though it looked like I get magicka stuff on stamina characters and viceversa. A dagger in 30 minutes is *** lucky.

Daimmyo

N/M

Elwendryll

Vyvrhel wrote: »

I know, I have been farming it for myself. Infused or Sharpened dagger costs 300k+ (as shown on TTC). Funny thing though it looked like I get magicka stuff on stamina characters and viceversa. A dagger in 30 minutes is *** lucky.

I usually try to bring my brother when I need loot, he's the kind to loot a monster mask in perfect trait/weight on first run.

Iziquiel

John_Falstaff wrote: »

Solo PvE means mostly overland, questing, delving, public dungeons, Maelstrom? Current meta - Relequen + AY - may not perform in those conditions: by the time you got those sets up and running, your targets are already dead.

For lightweight PvE and dungeoning, I'm yet to find better single set than Vicious Ophidian. It's not -the- most damage done, it's just cozy. It's like a drug, you do get addicted to it - great sustain, great mobility. So I'll add my voice to the others - if you're not opposed to running normal Craglorn trials, take some time and farm VO, chances are you'll love the set. And mobility and sustain are both integral components of survivability.

Pair with Briarheart for a little heal, or with Leviathan that will fuel your Surge with criticals - will also make you more survivable while boosting your damage.

Thanks! I would like to definitely get that set. My main limitation is often the amount of time I can commit but hopefully its possible.

I currently don't have the Orsinium DLC to be able to get Briarheart, that's why I was looking at 7th Legion. Is there another alternative to that that offers a heal?

Iziquiel

Elwendryll wrote: »

Iziquiel wrote: »

I suspect with time I will move more into playing PvP, partly because I prefer 2H, so great to know which sets to get for there as well!

I also prefer 2H, and I was tired of playing DW for 2 years, so I made a build with 2H.
Leviathan Body, Veiled Heritance jewelry and weapon. Maelstrom bow...

Just to let you know it works, I have 35-36k dps solo buffed with it on a sorcerer. I did depths of Malatar vet twice yesterday with it, I had around 50% of the group dps.

You could probably get better results with DW on optimal setups, sure. But I personally perform better with that than with my previous DW build (before the patch), partly because I have executioner available. You need to tweak your CP a little too.

Anyway, you don't have to choose between pve and pvp, although some morphs are BiS in pve while the other is BiS in pvp (Dawnbreaker for example).

Edit: The absolute best set combination I could recommend you for soloing with a stamsorc is Vicious Ophidian + Night Mother Gaze with Iceheart monster set and a Maelstrom bow.

Iceheart is a magicka set, BUT, it gives you a nearly 10k shield that lasts 6 seconds every 6 seconds, with fixed AOE damage, It works well with Critical surge and hurricane.

Great to know thanks! I hadn't seen Iceheart among the monster set recommendations before.

El_Borracho

Iziquiel wrote: »

TBois wrote: »

Iziquiel wrote: »

Thank you, that's good to know! Are the caps for PvE available anywhere?

PvE armor is at 18.2k always I'm pretty sure, but I'm a PvP main. It's possible that I'm wrong on that. Keep in mind that debuffs put on npcs by your group mates will factor into your damage calculations. So in a fully optimized 12 man raid you could hit cap without much penetration in your build.

Thanks, that's great to know

El_Borracho wrote: »

Iziquiel wrote: »

Thanks for the responses! Really helpful.

Would you put 2 sets together like 7th Legion and Veiled Heritance or Briarheart and Spriggan's Thorns? (I chose them randomly). I can see why these sets are good - Stamina, Weapon Damage, Weapon Crit, Resistance - but I'm unsure of the best way of knowing which set goes well with another and so ending up with more of a stat than I really need

For PVE: Meta is Relequen body + Advancing Yokeda weapons and jewelry. Hundlings + Briarheart/Spriggans works very well. Vicious Ophidian is the king of stamina sustain. Heard of some people mixing Hundlings/VO with Veiled Heritance weapons & jewelry. Someone said Bone Pirate works in PVE. It can, but you can get better results with something like VO. You main goal is to max damage, crit and sustain. Tons of stamina and regen are great, but your weapon damage will suffer. Just as too much weapon damage and crit will leave you with a smaller stamina pool. Heavy armor doesn't do much for you in PVE. Its the heavy sets weapons and jewelry that work, like Advancing Yokeda. Survivability should not be a problem with medium divines armor in PVE, especially if you get the right food and glyphs on your weapons.

For PVP: Avoid Relequen, Advancing Yokeda, VO, or really any crit sets. They do not perform well in PVP. Bone Pirate + Spriggans is a great combo. Vipers Sting, Torug's Pact, Shacklebreaker, and Impregnable are also great. You can run medium armor with impen traits and be successful. Heavy works but you will have a tankier build.

As for weapons, more people are running DW in PVP, but typically the 2H are preferred for melee. There are better PVP-specific skills with 2H, though there are the "spin to win" builds with DW. Conversely, DW is king in PVE. Better sustain, better damage. 2H is viable, but not preferred.

Thanks, as I mainly play solo I'm not sure I will be in a position to get the Meta sets, but I could get Hundings + Briarheart/Spriggans/Veiled Heritance.

I suspect with time I will move more into playing PvP, partly because I prefer 2H, so great to know which sets to get for there as well!

No biggie. No need to force group play if its not your thing. Plenty of good sets out there. Like @John_Falstaff said, the meta ones are skewed towards group play. If you do head over to Maelstrom, I would consider farming VO. Not 100% necessary, but makes a stam player's life easier in vMA.

For stamina PVP, I would highly recommend dipping your toes into some group play, specifically Blackheart Haven. Its where Bone Pirate is. Its SUPER EASY and takes about 15 minutes with a PUG crew, no communication necessary. The mechanics are a joke. 2-3 runs should net you the body pieces you need, maybe a few more to get them all in impen.

Have fun!

John_Falstaff

@Iziquiel , Briarheart is an overland set, it's bind-on-equip, so pieces are sold at guild traders. (Jewelry costs pretty penny though - ugh - because there are no dolmens there, it only comes from chests, and for some reason in three possible traits - be careful of those Arcane and Healthy necklaces out there, unless you plan to transmute anyway.)

There are other sets with healing, but I think that your Surge trumps them all, it's awesome for survivability. So maybe you could look into having Leviathan (it's almost same stats as Advancing Yokeda, but it's medium and much easier to get), would give you more crit and synergize with Surge.

And yes - will in turn point to @El_Borracho's advice; hear hear, Bone Pirate is a great PvP sustain set, never left the popularity charts. ^^

Iziquiel

Thank you both! I will keep an eye out for Briarheart in guild stores and try and pick up the other overland sets that have been mentioned when I get to CP160. Getting VO, Bone Pirate and Leviathan would be great if possible. I'm not in a rush so hopefully soon I will get a bit more time to dedicate to ESO