weakest classes for battleground pvp 2019

Girl_Number8

stam nightblade

Whiners are the top but no option for that. Stamblades in bgs die by the droves and I don't see them in a good spot there. Magblades do need a mild buff imo, as they are not in the best of spots. Of course, if someone brings a magblade into bgs, that's on them because they should fully be aware of the class limits atm. I see more Stamblades to destroy in bgs so I have to go with them.

Dottzgaming

mag nightblade

Noctus wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Stamblade is the most popular class, so youll see a lot of bad people playing it. The class in reality is actually top-tier and one of the best.

Magblade is def in the roughest spot PvP wise for BGs/open world. Magicka in general is in a tough spot right now, but of all the mag classes, i think MagNB has it the hardest.

are u the youtuber dottz ? nice that u have the same opinion. i saw in the pvp forums that many other ppl think that way too.

Yep thats me!

Urvoth wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Stamblade is the most popular class, so youll see a lot of bad people playing it. The class in reality is actually top-tier and one of the best.

Magblade is def in the roughest spot PvP wise for BGs/open world. Magicka in general is in a tough spot right now, but of all the mag classes, i think MagNB has it the hardest.

In open world, yeah stamblade is top tier, but it's quite the opposite in BGs. That stealth sniper style doesn't work effectively in a team game mode, and having them on your team virtually guarantees a loss if you're playing against competent opponents. They will get chained or leashed, chased down by stamsorcs, beamed by magplars, executed by s2w, and just overall rekt by aoe. This leaves the brawler playstyle as a much better option, and although it can be very strong, it can be difficult to play with only a few high MMR stamblades able to do so effectively in PC NA.

Who says stamblades have to be stealth snipers? There's multiple playstyles outside of being a bow ganker that stamblade has access to such as your typical medium armor stamblade (2h/bow or 2h/dw) as well as heavy armor brawler stamblde (my personal favorite). A properly built brawler stamblade is a force to be reckoned with in BGs; theyre not #1 but are a far cry from the "weakest"

MaxJrFTW

stam nightblade

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Noctus wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Stamblade is the most popular class, so youll see a lot of bad people playing it. The class in reality is actually top-tier and one of the best.

Magblade is def in the roughest spot PvP wise for BGs/open world. Magicka in general is in a tough spot right now, but of all the mag classes, i think MagNB has it the hardest.

are u the youtuber dottz ? nice that u have the same opinion. i saw in the pvp forums that many other ppl think that way too.

Yep thats me!

Urvoth wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Stamblade is the most popular class, so youll see a lot of bad people playing it. The class in reality is actually top-tier and one of the best.

Magblade is def in the roughest spot PvP wise for BGs/open world. Magicka in general is in a tough spot right now, but of all the mag classes, i think MagNB has it the hardest.

In open world, yeah stamblade is top tier, but it's quite the opposite in BGs. That stealth sniper style doesn't work effectively in a team game mode, and having them on your team virtually guarantees a loss if you're playing against competent opponents. They will get chained or leashed, chased down by stamsorcs, beamed by magplars, executed by s2w, and just overall rekt by aoe. This leaves the brawler playstyle as a much better option, and although it can be very strong, it can be difficult to play with only a few high MMR stamblades able to do so effectively in PC NA.

Who says stamblades have to be stealth snipers? There's multiple playstyles outside of being a bow ganker that stamblade has access to such as your typical medium armor stamblade (2h/bow or 2h/dw) as well as heavy armor brawler stamblde (my personal favorite). A properly built brawler stamblade is an absolute force to be reckoned with in BGs; a far cry from the "weakest"

Are we playing the same game? Other than magblades who can actually be very good healers. What other class would you consider weaker than stamblade?

Urvoth

mag nightblade

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Noctus wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Stamblade is the most popular class, so youll see a lot of bad people playing it. The class in reality is actually top-tier and one of the best.

Magblade is def in the roughest spot PvP wise for BGs/open world. Magicka in general is in a tough spot right now, but of all the mag classes, i think MagNB has it the hardest.

are u the youtuber dottz ? nice that u have the same opinion. i saw in the pvp forums that many other ppl think that way too.

Yep thats me!

Urvoth wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Stamblade is the most popular class, so youll see a lot of bad people playing it. The class in reality is actually top-tier and one of the best.

Magblade is def in the roughest spot PvP wise for BGs/open world. Magicka in general is in a tough spot right now, but of all the mag classes, i think MagNB has it the hardest.

In open world, yeah stamblade is top tier, but it's quite the opposite in BGs. That stealth sniper style doesn't work effectively in a team game mode, and having them on your team virtually guarantees a loss if you're playing against competent opponents. They will get chained or leashed, chased down by stamsorcs, beamed by magplars, executed by s2w, and just overall rekt by aoe. This leaves the brawler playstyle as a much better option, and although it can be very strong, it can be difficult to play with only a few high MMR stamblades able to do so effectively in PC NA.

Who says stamblades have to be stealth snipers? There's multiple playstyles outside of being a bow ganker that stamblade has access to such as your typical medium armor stamblade (2h/bow or 2h/dw) as well as heavy armor brawler stamblde (my personal favorite). A properly built brawler stamblade is a force to be reckoned with in BGs; theyre not #1 but are a far cry from the "weakest"

They are definitely one of the weakest in BGs, and there isn't much of a reason to bring one on your team instead of another class. There are very few actually good high MMR brawler stamblades, so it's not like someone can throw together a brawler build and be fine.

Ragnarock41

stam dragonknight

Urvoth wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

This poll is BS. PvP comes in many forms. for 1v1, stamDK is top tier. For open world its garbage tier, so I might aswell select my own class to show my bias to everyone

The post says Battlegrounds...

It was later edited.

LordTareq

stam nightblade

(Melee) Nightblades generally underperform in my experience. The main flaw with being forced to ‘patiently wait and pick vulnerable targets’ in group PvP is that in the meantime your team is 1 man short.

Ragnarock41

stam dragonknight

Noctus wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

I can tell already that there are going to be a lot of BS answers.

have some faith i hope ppl are just honest

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

This poll is BS. PvP comes in many forms. for 1v1, stamDK is top tier. For open world its garbage tier, so I might aswell select my own class to show my bias to everyone

i play to much bg so i have the expectation that everyone immadiately thinks of bg . yeh silly me. stamdk is even better than magdk im a little shocked that u pick that

As far as Bgs are concerned how strong a class is depends on how useful they are in a team versus team enviroment, and thats why I believe stamDk and any class that is also 1v1 focused is directly inferior to any class that comes with group utility, which includes magDks

Single target focus is not something you really want in battlegrounds, as result stamDk and stamblade are not really strong picks. There is a reason high MMR games are full of warden-templar premades sticking all together, and the lower you go in the MMR bracket, the more gankblades, snipe builds, stamDKs,magblades and petsorcs you start to face.

But hey, I'm not trying to say single target setups are garbage and can't compare, but they are not veery likely to win against a meta warden setup either. After all player skill is a factor aswell, and any setup, even stamblades and stamDks, can build to be more group focused instead of 1v1 to reduce their weakness, just to a limited degree.

Deathlord92

Magblade just so weak please zos I beg of you to buff magblade survive ability 🙏

InvictusApollo

It's hard to pick one. They all die easily to appropriate counter. I'd say: none but there isn't such option. Im also surprised that so many people have chosen magblade. Last time I played it in BG... well lets just say it was a lot of fun 1vXing.

ccmedaddy

mag nightblade

InvictusApollo wrote: »

It's hard to pick one. They all die easily to appropriate counter. I'd say: none but there isn't such option. Im also surprised that so many people have chosen magblade. Last time I played it in BG... well lets just say it was a lot of fun 1vXing.

If you're 1vXing with a magblade in BGs this patch your MMR is probably on the lower side.

Jeremy

Noctus wrote: »

as the title says choose the one class that u can demolish the easiest

This will likely depend on the class and build you play because this game seems to have a a rock paper scissor design to its PvP. I also never know if what I'm fighting is stamina or magicka but Nightblades tend to be the least threatening class I fight. That being said: they're also good at getting away so they are difficult for me to kill.

Commancho

This poll is a joke.

Dracan_Fontom

All classes are excellent in the right hands.

Strider__Roshin

stam nightblade

Nightblades as a whole honestly.

Strider__Roshin

stam nightblade

ezio45 wrote: »

Magsorc
Magden
Magblade

Having 1 magsorc in your group is meta for BGs and Magdens are also one of the strongest BG specs. You're right about magblades though.

Zevrro

mag nightblade

BGs is full of aoe spam and snare spam so anything without snare removal will have a hard time in BGs right now. Playing BGs as a magblade I'm usually permarooted and can't successfully cloak because of how many aoes there are.

russelmmendoza

Me, in all classes, in all matches, I just get stomp all over.

I love pvp, but all the other players are just better than me, but I never quit.

HEBREWHAMMERRR

mag nightblade

All bias aside, magblade. I came back to a shell of the class I loved. I do well enough in BGs and don’t cost my team but I also am one of the few to seem to still be playing the class at a high mmr.

Vapirko

mag nightblade

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

This isn't how this works.

Personally, I find my easiest kills are bad stamblades. But I don't think anyone would say stamblades are in a bad place right now. And good stamblades kill me more often than any other class.

Stamina NB is the class of noobs. There has to be more bad stamina NBs per good stamblade than any other class by a long shot. If stealth wasn’t so easily abused this would be very different.

AngelFires333

susmitds wrote: »

Noctus wrote: »

as the title says choose the one class that u can demolish the easiest

I won't call StamNB the weakest class in PvP (they are somewhat useless in High End BGs though) but I kill them the easiest and usually facepalm when I see one in my team in random BGs.

I often get the highest kill count than anyone on the team.

So I guess it's a mater of perception and personal preference innit...

AngelFires333

If you have a passion for a class.
You can make almost anything work.


This is ridiculous.

VDoom1

I haven't a clue, I haven't done any battlegrounds. But this sure gives me an idea what I should not go as if I ever do one. In general when it comes to PvP I believe StamSorc and StamBlade are pretty good, not sure.

Vapirko

mag nightblade

AngelFires333 wrote: »

If you have a passion for a class.
You can make almost anything work.


This is ridiculous.

Idk man, I know some really good, really dedicated magblades who have been playing only that class for a long time and they can make it work but it’s a *** struggle. It shouldn’t be that way.

Mayrael

mag nightblade

AngelFires333 wrote: »

If you have a passion for a class.
You can make almost anything work.


This is ridiculous.

Mhm... Especially when you are magblade that tries to do anything other than killing people.

When you cary totem, ball your 2 main defensive skills are disabled - cloak and shadow, and if that wasn't enough, mist form is locked to.

When you try to take a flag you shouldn't use cloak to, shadow can be utilised but it needs to be done the smart way, not just standing on the flag pressing the button.

Not to mention roots and snares everywhere (and magblades have no other way to counter it than being vampire), aoes everywhere do the job to. Yes you can go heavy armored troll tank build but why, when you'll be better with that on other classes?

mocap

so according to this poll stam sorc is toughest?

Trancestor

mag nightblade

Wheres all the comments from the people who voted magden lol, would like to see dat reasoning

HEBREWHAMMERRR

mag nightblade

Vapirko wrote: »

AngelFires333 wrote: »

If you have a passion for a class.
You can make almost anything work.


This is ridiculous.

Idk man, I know some really good, really dedicated magblades who have been playing only that class for a long time and they can make it work but it’s a *** struggle. It shouldn’t be that way.

Exactly. I make it work but I also am a day 1 magblade and it’s all I play. The struggle is very real I mean the snares and aoe make the play very difficult, top that will wings just flat out reflecting virtually all of your abilities it can be a tough time in BGs for magblade. I just flat out don’t see really any others in high mmr BGs.

Commancho

Vapirko wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

This isn't how this works.

Personally, I find my easiest kills are bad stamblades. But I don't think anyone would say stamblades are in a bad place right now. And good stamblades kill me more often than any other class.

Stamina NB is the class of noobs. There has to be more bad stamina NBs per good stamblade than any other class by a long shot. If stealth wasn’t so easily abused this would be very different.

Exactly, I have tried to duel my friend's nightblade multiple times with stealth and without stealth with my stamsorc and he could win only when he was using stealth and that's only a duel, because in open world PVP or BGs it's much harder to counter cloak than in duel. Most of nightblades are one trick ponny - at least untill they encounter a solid team and they end up sniping and cloaking forever while being ignored by other players.

Tommy_The_Gun

Every class that is not in pre-made team. That is imho the problem.

eliisra

mag nightblade

Gonna say magblade to. They're good at sustain, PvE dps, has some off-healing and tricks up their sleeves, but neither of those things are super useful in BG's sadly.