Alter no death achievement from no death in the whole run to no death for each boss

Lyserus

Trying to get no death is just soooo hard
One mistake at last boss and boom let's start over again

I rather hope the no death achievement is sliced to few steps, you need to kill each boss with no death, and if you have done all bosses' no death (even if you achieved in different run throughs), you get the achievement.

aka like this: 1st boss no death, 2nd boss 1 death, but I can still go on to other bosses to try to unlock no death on that boss. I can do the dungeon again for the bosses we have failed last time, and as long as I got a no death in one of the encounter to all bosses, I get the achievement

This way the no death achievement is still hard to get, but you don't have to start over and over and over again to grind a perfect run

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Nay

Neigh.

It's part of the challenge.

If you can't do the run with no deaths then you don't deserve the achievement. Just the way I see it.

KhajiitFelix

Nay

I don't think this is a good idea. It's not meant to be easy!

Edaphon

Nay

Lyserus wrote: »

Trying to get no death is just soooo hard

That's the whole point.

ACaptiveMind

How would you compensate the people who did it the hard way?

KhajiitFelix

Nay

ACaptiveMind wrote: »

How would you compensate the people who did it the hard way?

If they are going to do this, then they should give them a cool personality maybe.

idk

Nay

It is intended to be a challenge. We do not need to start watering down challenges.

FlyingSwan

Nay

Basic dungeon content is easy enough anyway, we need some meaningful challenges!

Tasear

Nay

Practice makes perfect ....

zaria

Nay

Depend on the dungeons, CoA1 people die jumping down the tree, VoM also splat if people handle the first boss.
BC1 is pretty hard on last boss in low cp group if people are not very careful.

Getting into vet dlc, then yes they are hard. However you don't need them for getting undaunted 9 fast they are just for achivements.

daemonios

Nay

No death per boss is a completely different beast than a complete no-death run. It's not fun because it's easy - it's fun because it's hard.

If you specifically want to go after no-death runs (nothing wrong with that), make sure you run with a like-minded group and that everyone knows what they're doing.Trying to pug a no-death is setting yourself up for failure and frustration.

Thevampirenight

Other

Either make the no death personal or remove the requirement.

Gnortranermara

Nay

No. But I would be in favor of making them individual achievements rather than group achievements.

Cave_Canem

Nay

You can have your "some death" achievement when I get my "lots of deaths" achievement!

srfrogg23

Other

Introduce "no armor" dungeon run achievements.

ZeroXFF

Yay

TBH I never understood these achievements. If you're capable of doing HM, you're capable of doing no death, it's just a matter of how much time you're willing to waste on getting favorable RNG so that your tank doesn't get stomped on by the bear the very second the damn spriggan decides to turn him into a rat (yes, I'm talking about vMHK). Nothing to do with skill, nothing to do with tactics, everything to do with luck. So really, there is no achievement in it, just a pointless RNG based time sink.

AbysmalGhul

I go back and forth with the idea of the no death run. Sometimes I feel they should make the no death on an individual basis or remove them all together etc etc etc. I only really feel this way because of the extreme lag or broken mechanics I go through for a few weeks after a new update hits.

TC, practice, practice, practice, practice. It's worth it when you finally get that no death. There's no better feeling than meeting a goal.

I know how you feel though. I have tried for the no-death in Falkreath for several months (since June 2018) straight with Domihuas at 3% or less and someone dies....I know it's frustrating, I played with the perfect team last Thursday night and after many runs of me not dying, I was the one who died at the last 6% *cries*

Just keep getting over those hurdles and it will be worth it.

Diminish

Other

If they were to make changes to this, then it should be to make the no death requirement only for you, not your entire group. This would make it more accessible to a lot of people. Personally though, I could care less in the grand scheme of things. Just don't make it "too easy"; which is how I view the suggestion of the OP.

Odovacar

Nay

It’s what makes it challenging...besides do you want to go around seeing all those shiny skins, personalities, etc everywhere..? I know I don’t...I love the feeling of earning challenger achievements...I wouldn’t want it any other way.

ccfeeling

Nay

I strongly suggest that you should use pre-made group to try no death achievement .

zaria

Nay

ccfeeling wrote: »

I strongly suggest that you should use pre-made group to try no death achievement .

This, for one you would not try to combine it with HM unless an easy dungeon.

And don't ask for no death in VoM and spat on drop down into the pool.
That brings salt.

commdt

Nay

No, it doesnt make any sense. First, this achievement is something you should work on to get, than you can say "man, I was there and did it". If it were your way it wouldnt be any achievement at all "man I facerolled it too like everyone on this server". Second, you forgot about adds. On our no-Death vMOL attempt 2 of 3 deathes were on adds, where will you put that part in your scheme? Not supporting

efster

Nay

The current no-death achievements are fine; they're a good gauge of player awareness and team cohesion. However, I'd love to see individual no-death achievements added, too (ones for not dying, personally, in a particular vet dungeon/trial). All the tanks would be able to rack up so many Undaunted points quickly. :

WrathOfInnos

Yay

As someone who has nearly all of the no-death achievements, I would be fine with this change. It takes exactly the same amount of skill to do each boss deathless individually, just requires less grind and luck for them all to align on the same run.

MattT1988

Nay

No it’s fine the way it is. It’s meant to be a challenge for the good players. Not everything in this game needs to be aimed towards the lowest denominator as far as skill level goes.
If you can’t do it, tough luck. Get better, learn and try again. If you can’t get better then that challenge isn’t for you.

VDoom1

Nay

I don't do dungeons that often so I don't have much of an opinion on this. However it does seem like part of the challenge. It is difficult yes, but that's the point. Everyone would do it if it was easy.

Rygonix

Nay

For me no death is one of the easier requirements. Your experience may vary but vet HM final bosses take me and my group more tries.

Bigevilpeter

Yay

No death is the main reason I dont even try challenger achievements

YamiKuruku

Nay

The current no death is fine.

I am one of these persons that usually dies to stupid mistakes XD But then we just start over and try no death again
I like that kind of challenge, even if it can be frustrating at times.
But that only makes you better and after getting that achievment you feel like you mastered this dungeon

Vildebill

Nay

I don't understand why. Just to get skins easier?

It's not that hard to get some friends together, learn the mechanics and use some survival gear and skills, like change monster set to a defensive one, use more heals in the group, slot barrier, tank can use damage shield sets like Imperium. You will absolutely make it with that. I like achievements it takes some dedication to get.

D0PAMINE

Nay

Other groups worked hard to get the achievement. Im sure many of them failed numerous times and had to restart. So thats what they did. They took the loss and tried again and again until they did it.