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FEAR ---> cmon, too long?

generalmyrick
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too long?
"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.

FEAR ---> cmon, too long? 129 votes

other
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EvergnarAsh_In_My_Sujammabrandonv516eso_lagsgeneralmyrickZarkingFruedtheriftmairwen85 8 votes
no
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yes
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leeuxKidgangster101 2 votes
4 second too long
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    So sorcs were nerfed, now it's NB turn to be nerfed to the ground? :D
  • munster1404
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    no
    Another complain from a PvP perspective. Get rid of it, PvP has caused enough pain and damage already.
    Edited by munster1404 on February 16, 2019 2:51PM
  • generalmyrick
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    Another complain from a PvP perspective. Get rid of it, PvP has caused enough pain and damage already.

    com·plaint Dictionary result for complaint
    /kəmˈplānt/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a statement that a situation is unsatisfactory or unacceptable.


    ques·tion Dictionary result for question
    /ˈkwesCH(ə)n/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a sentence worded or expressed so as to elicit information.
    "we hope this leaflet has been helpful in answering your questions"
    synonyms: inquiry, query; More
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • Moonsorrow
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    no
    As a General, you should know how to use Break-free and not have to spend 5 seconds running in fear. :p
  • generalmyrick
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    i agree @Moonsorrow -- i am gathering opinions.--i am curious! :-)

    I DO NOT WANT A NERF.
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • Heimpai
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    All cc‘s stuns should be removed..unless they fix their servers..i main Mag/stamblade and never run fear
  • Shantu
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    Personally, I just think it's stupid. But then again, that applies to much of PVP.
  • miteba
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    no
    Nerfs help classes loose their identity.
    Threads like this put pressure on the devs, that after some players whining, will take seconds to fear.

    Players should think before asking nerfs, because others will ask them against your classes too ... And we all loose with that.

    Fyi i dont main a NB and i sometimes die because of fear too...

    Each nerf word in forum topics should cost 50 crowns, automatically debitated from the user account!!!
    Edited by miteba on February 16, 2019 4:23PM
  • generalmyrick
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    miteba wrote: »
    Nerfs help classes loose their identity.
    Threads like this put pressure on the devs, that after some players whining, will take seconds to fear.

    Players should think before asking nerfs, because others will ask them against your classes too ... And we all loose with that.

    Fyi i dont main a NB and i sometimes die because of fear too...

    Each nerf word in forum topics should cost 50 crowns, automatically debitated from the user account!!!

    whiningDictionary result for whining
    /ˈ(h)wīniNG/Submit
    noun
    1.
    the making of a long, high-pitched cry or sound.
    "dogs may exhibit signs of anxiety, such as whining, chewing, and excessive barking"
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • Kidgangster101
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    3 second too long
    The real problem is the server, same as the snipe desync insue we have. This actually effects pve as well not just pvp, just got killed in maelstrom arena on the ice level because I wasn't able to break free from fear and it ran me into the water.

    So unless they fix the server certain moves need to be nerfed because you shouldn't have to die because their servers are bad.
  • StarOfElyon
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    NB using fear is utter nonsense when it's them who turn tail and run when you even look at them. NBs are like the Boo ghosts from Mario. Instead of covering their eyes they cloak and run away though. They can only attack from behind when you're busy fighting someone with a pair of acorns. So the idea that they can fear my character is offensive to begin with.
  • Vermethys
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    I don't know -- I hardly ever played NB in PvP and it always felt like such a clunky (and expensive) ability to use. I'm not sure what it is about it, could be a bug or whatnot, but it's always much harder to break-free from fear than it is to break free from Destructive Reach or Templar Javelin for example. I think that's why I always feel like it CC's you for too long.
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  • ATomiX96
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    no
    fear is fine it already got nerfed multiple times, theres other stuff about nightblades thats critical. *cough* cloak *cough*

    but lets not rush anything and fix the *** shadow image bug first, idk how they manage to break some abilties with every patch and not fix them for like a year straight.
  • StarOfElyon
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    I don't know -- I hardly ever played NB in PvP and it always felt like such a clunky (and expensive) ability to use. I'm not sure what it is about it, could be a bug or whatnot, but it's always much harder to break-free from fear than it is to break free from Destructive Reach or Templar Javelin for example. I think that's why I always feel like it CC's you for too long.

    There's at least the first two seconds that are unbreakable. That's what makes it too long. If I could break it immediately it wouldn't be so bad.
  • Rumba1
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    yes
    Last night in PVP I was fighting two indivduals.

    One Fears me, I hit break-free immediately two to three seconds later it actually works, meanwhile the my two opponents have hit me 4-6 times.

    Immediately after the break-free works, the other opponent hits me with fear. Perhaps 6 unanswered hits from my opponents.
    They did not need to fear me again, 10-12 unanswered hits and no time to shield ended the fight.

    The stealth stacking sets and the combination of Fear and Cloak amount to virtual 'I win' buttons.


    There is a Werewolf oriented group in pvp, when 20 or so werewolves are casting the WW equivalent of fear it's pretty hard not to be just breaking free continuously.
  • Urvoth
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    The main problem is it's so buggy to CC break.
  • StarOfElyon
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    Rumba1 wrote: »
    Last night in PVP I was fighting two indivduals.

    One Fears me, I hit break-free immediately two to three seconds later it actually works, meanwhile the my two opponents have hit me 4-6 times.

    Immediately after the break-free works, the other opponent hits me with fear. Perhaps 6 unanswered hits from my opponents.
    They did not need to fear me again, 10-12 unanswered hits and no time to shield ended the fight.

    The stealth stacking sets and the combination of Fear and Cloak amount to virtual 'I win' buttons.


    There is a Werewolf oriented group in pvp, when 20 or so werewolves are casting the WW equivalent of fear it's pretty hard not to be just breaking free continuously.

    The most frustrating part is that they can do this while you have the fight well in hand and then it causes you to lose. It's obnoxiously cheap. It takes zero skills for players to win on cloaks and fears.
  • Nord_Raseri
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    5 second too long
    sorry hit the wrong one, scrolled down to quick and it bugged out. if anything is wrong with fear, it's not the skill itself, it's the broken immunity mechanic. get feared, break free, immediatly feared, breakfree again, immediatly feared a third time....
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  • TequilaFire
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    no
    miteba wrote: »
    Nerfs help classes loose their identity.
    Threads like this put pressure on the devs, that after some players whining, will take seconds to fear.

    Players should think before asking nerfs, because others will ask them against your classes too ... And we all loose with that.

    Fyi i dont main a NB and i sometimes die because of fear too...

    Each nerf word in forum topics should cost 50 crowns, automatically debitated from the user account!!!

    whiningDictionary result for whining
    /ˈ(h)wīniNG/Submit
    noun
    1.
    the making of a long, high-pitched cry or sound.
    "dogs may exhibit signs of anxiety, such as whining, chewing, and excessive barking"

    So fear causes you anxiety so you make a post whining about it. luz
  • Beardimus
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    yes
    Too long yes but more that the break free is broken and we all know it.

    Same with cage. Cage got 5 nerfs tho rather than a fix lol

    Nerf fear or fix it
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  • BomblePants
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    Stop with the nerf threads!
  • rabidmyers
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    no
    no
    at a place nobody knows
  • itscompton
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    2 second too long
    If you need someone to be helpless for more than 2 seconds to get a kill you're a scrub and don't deserve it.
  • itscompton
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    2 second too long
    Another complain from a PvP perspective. Get rid of it, PvP has caused enough pain and damage already.

    And who exactly uses fear in PvE genius?
  • eso_lags
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    There are a bunch of issues with nightblade in pvp, a bunch, but i dont think the time of fear is one of them. My only issue with fear is when you are feared and your character starts running in the same direction that you were already moving in, you cant always tell that you are feared. This is worse when there are a lot of animations going on.. I think it could use a better animation..

    But then again im sure PC players have add ons to let them know when they are CCd in big red letters or something, so this is probably more of a console issue. So most likely we'll never see it.
  • Rikumaru
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    no
    First people calling for an SA nerf now fear? The only thing NB needs is a cloak nerf, with it having an increasing cost like sorcs when spammed. As for fear, I personally dislike using it and will use most other CC's since if I'm snared (which is the usual nowadays) and I fear them, I won't be able to attack them properly which is pretty annoying.
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  • Dojohoda
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    no
    Magblade already gutted. Maybe we will fear you out of dangerous AOE.. you are welcome. :/
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  • Ash_In_My_Sujamma
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    Duration is fine. The problem is that it's a multi debuff skill (like some other nb skills). Affects 2 enemies, can't be blocked, applies snare, and minor maim. Would you like to add anything else?
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    learn to break free learn to imo pots learn to move
    ok im done.
  • itscompton
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    2 second too long
    learn to break free learn to imo pots learn to move
    ok im done.
    learn to get a kill without relying on a crutch
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