Would you like to see Survival Mode?

Thevampirenight

To Hot, To Cold, you could lose health and die. Need to eat and drink. Need to sleep aka use sleep emote or use a bed. As a Vampire you need to drink blood, or start to starve
This system would be based on realism. Say 21 ingame days and nights and you die from starvation. Three days without drinking and you dehydrate.Go without sleep and it debuffs for too long and it debuffs you reduces experiance gains, go 11 days without sleep and you die. Only to be reformed with a clean state after dying. Since you are after all a soul shriven. Vampires their food and drink requirements would be based on blood and not feeding for too long can risk you having an rng chance of feeding on a random justice npc. If your crossheirs are on them and when not attacking innocent npcs option is off would cause you to feed on them unwillingly. Since not having blood won't really kill vampires, not eatting and drinking would not kill them. But they risk the chance of not being able to hold back their thirst.

This system would be adjustable and also optional, I am sure some might be against it do to performance. But then it might not do much to effect it. Even if it does a little. What this would do is make things much more immersive. Without being to much of a pain. It would go good with the provisioning system, and the outfits/costumes system along with the housing system. Not only making it so you have to fight against powerful forces, but also have to take care of ones health and preparing for the weather and climates.


So to recap what this would do is make these things important.
Food and Drink requirement to keep healthy or risk death if you don't eat or drink. Optional
Sleeping requirement debuffing you if you don't and killing you if you go without it for too long. Optional
The need to bath going to long without keeping clean can increase prices for items or make npcs refuse to talk with you. Optional
Being prepared for the elements or risk succumbing. Optional
Unable to use wayshrines as fast travel hardcore mode and custom mode as optional.

Vampires have to feed or risk attacking innocent npcs. So the chance would go up every ten ingame days, so ten days without feeding 25 percent, chance, 15 days, 50 percent chance, 20 days 75 percent chance. 25 days 100 percent chance.

Hot environments, you would need to drink water to keep cooldown and wear less clothing. Using ice warden abilties will keep you cooled down as well.
Cold Environments you to dress warm in either warm light armor or a warm costume.
Camp Fires and fires will warm you up, using dragon knight abilties will also keep you warm.

There would be three preset settings with the option of customizing it and then the off settings.

Hardcore would be, you cannot fast travel, you will die from the elements if exposed for too long, have to eat and drink, sleep and bath. Bathing would be just jumping into a river or ocean or bathtub furnishing or being under a waterfall. You have to feed as a vampire or risk attacking innocents. Attack innocents must be on.
Moderate would be like hard core you will die from the elements, still need to eat, drink and you die if you don't for too long but with the normal wayshrine travel still activated. Must feed as a vampire or risk attacking innocents.
Softcore, not eating and drinking and being exposed for too long in the elements will cause debuffs but it would not kill you and you have the option of fast traveling. from being exposed to the elements but you won't die. You won't feed on the innocent but you get debuffs for not feeding.
Custom would allow you to change things to be the type of survival mode you want it to be.
Off would be where you are not using survival mode at all.

Edaphon

No

No thanks, that sounds terrible.

Thevampirenight

Yes they should do this.

Edaphon wrote: »

No thanks, that sounds terrible.

Why its an optional system,. Skyrim has it with creation club and mods and fallout 4 along with new vegas has a survival mode.

Taunky

No

I can tell you're going to be the kind of OP to give us an option, but shame us for disagreeing. I also say hell no, go play Rust.

Kiralyn2000

No

Ugh, no. I don't even mod those into Skyrim or Fallout.

Bouldercleave

No

So far it looks like you are the only one Vamp...


A hard no from me. I'm too much of a casual player and that sounds like way too much work.

Thevampirenight

Yes they should do this.

Taunky wrote: »

I can tell you're going to be the kind of OP to give us an option, but shame us for disagreeing. I also say hell no, go play Rust.

I'm not going to shame anyone. I only asked the one person why? When he said it would be terrible. I made my guess that it would be possibly performance related. It might never happen. Maybe one day they can get around to making such a system. But I am sure it won't be any time soon. Made the poll because of the camping one inspired me. I am getting the impression most players are not very supportive of a survival mode. That is up to them not everyone would want it. Most might be okay with it but would be against it because of performance issues or they see no need in adding such a system when there is other things they could be doing.

AlienatedGoat

No

It's fine in single player RPGs, but I don't think it works in a PvE MMO environment.

efster

No

Not every Elder Scrolls game needs to be exactly like Skyrim.

jainiadral

No

No way. "Realism" in games shatters my immersion. Having to micromanage stuff on annoying timers detracts from story and exploration-- JMHO, this game has way too many staggered timers as it is.

Besides, the survival market is already jam packed-- why do these mechanisms need to be here too?

BWS2K

Other

I don't want this as a mode in ESO but I'll be super disappointed if TESVI doesn't ship with a robust survival/hardcore mode. Gold has weight, food/drink/sleep essential, every item has a use (even if only to break down into 'scrap' of some kind), weather/temp management, and lycanthropy that isn't just an afterthought - not to mention faith-based guilds/quests/services, crafting, spellmaking, classes, racial bonuses, housing, and basically everything the last two decades of modding should suggest players prefer. #highhopestho

jainiadral

No

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Taunky wrote: »

I can tell you're going to be the kind of OP to give us an option, but shame us for disagreeing. I also say hell no, go play Rust.

I'm not going to shame anyone. I only asked the one person why? When he said it would be terrible. I made my guess that it would be possibly performance related. It might never happen. Maybe one day they can get around to making such a system. But I am sure it won't be any time soon. Made the poll because of the camping one inspired me. I am getting the impression most players are not very supportive of a survival mode. That is up to them not everyone would want it. Most might be okay with it but would be against it because of performance issues or they see no need in adding such a system when there is other things they could be doing.

The camping thing is appealing as an RP/fun social experience. Add in some cooking functionality at a campfire, and it would be a neat convenience feature. Survival mode is an inconvenience.

Thevampirenight

Yes they should do this.

jainiadral wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Taunky wrote: »

I can tell you're going to be the kind of OP to give us an option, but shame us for disagreeing. I also say hell no, go play Rust.

I'm not going to shame anyone. I only asked the one person why? When he said it would be terrible. I made my guess that it would be possibly performance related. It might never happen. Maybe one day they can get around to making such a system. But I am sure it won't be any time soon. Made the poll because of the camping one inspired me. I am getting the impression most players are not very supportive of a survival mode. That is up to them not everyone would want it. Most might be okay with it but would be against it because of performance issues or they see no need in adding such a system when there is other things they could be doing.

The camping thing is appealing as an RP/fun social experience. Add in some cooking functionality at a campfire, and it would be a neat convenience feature. Survival mode is an inconvenience.

Well they could still maybe add some things from it, like the risk of rng attacking an innocent npc by randomly feeding on them if they are in your crossheirs if you go so many in game days without doing so and making killing them in the process getting you to stage one if you are a vampire. I would like to see that bit of immersion at least. As vampires need blood, they just don't get to always stay stage four and well be able to do things without thinking about the red stuff and going to long makes that thirst worse and well turns vampires feral.

Diminish

No

I'd like to see a working base game before any of these "forum modes" sparks even the slightest interest in the minds of anyone on the development team.

Valkysas154

No

Seeing as how most developers still think the human body needs 4 olympic size pools worth a water a day and 4 supermarket worth of food no thanks.

ArchMikem

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Edaphon wrote: »

No thanks, that sounds terrible.

Why its an optional system,. Skyrim has it with creation club and mods and fallout 4 along with new vegas has a survival mode.

Those are singleplayer games. This is an MMO.

Very different.

redspecter23

No

I would make no use of it if it were optional so I personally would not want to see it. I wouldn't fault others for wanting it though. It's a immersion thing.

Sylvermynx

Other

Sweetheart, this game is already survival mode for me. Mega-ping will do that y'know....

If it was added as optional, that's fine. I wouldn't EVER go there. Bad enough what I'm dealing with now. Honestly? If I didn't love TES.... I'd have quit a day after I started.

max_only

I like your idea Op, but still no. Because:

ArchMikem wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Edaphon wrote: »

No thanks, that sounds terrible.

Why its an optional system,. Skyrim has it with creation club and mods and fallout 4 along with new vegas has a survival mode.

Those are singleplayer games. This is an MMO.

Very different.

jainiadral

No

Thevampirenight wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Taunky wrote: »

I can tell you're going to be the kind of OP to give us an option, but shame us for disagreeing. I also say hell no, go play Rust.

I'm not going to shame anyone. I only asked the one person why? When he said it would be terrible. I made my guess that it would be possibly performance related. It might never happen. Maybe one day they can get around to making such a system. But I am sure it won't be any time soon. Made the poll because of the camping one inspired me. I am getting the impression most players are not very supportive of a survival mode. That is up to them not everyone would want it. Most might be okay with it but would be against it because of performance issues or they see no need in adding such a system when there is other things they could be doing.

The camping thing is appealing as an RP/fun social experience. Add in some cooking functionality at a campfire, and it would be a neat convenience feature. Survival mode is an inconvenience.

Well they could still maybe add some things from it, like the risk of rng attacking an innocent npc by randomly feeding on them if they are in your crossheirs if you go so many in game days without doing so and making killing them in the process getting you to stage one if you are a vampire. I would like to see that bit of immersion at least. As vampires need blood, they just don't get to always stay stage four and well be able to do things without thinking about the red stuff and going to long makes that thirst worse and well turns vampires feral.

You mean a spit for roasting innocent civilians? None of my toons are vampires or werewolves pretty much for a) the fugliness factor and b) the feeding annoyance factor. So they'd end up cannibals in your system. Not really my cup of tea

And, honestly, I think there's too much killing in this game. It could use some more silly or downtime features.

MartiniDaniels

Yes they should do this.

If it optional why not. I make use it for my roleplay toons, while not using for my work-horse toons

lokulin

No

I'm not adverse to survival games but I don't think the mechanic would work well in ESO. Even a basic system would be a lot of work to implement.

IndorilArwynLlethran

No

No. Try surviving Cyro lags

Ackwalan

If you spend to much time maintaining "basic" life needs, there would be no time left to just play the game.

MattT1988

No

No because with how this game currently performs I don’t trust them to be able to add something this big without making the game perform worse.

ESO_Nightingale

Yes they should do this.

having the option would be interesting.

Mayrael

No

I love survival modes but it's an MMO, how do you plan to arrange things like sleeping? You can't just press a button and command "sleep 4 hours". What's the point of survival mode when you can or even are forced to pause it because of PvP, group content etc. Nah... It would be better if devs focused on fixing bugs (WW heavy attack restoring only half of the stamina or shadow image not working in Cyrodiil) and improving performance.

starkerealm

No

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Edaphon wrote: »

No thanks, that sounds terrible.

Why its an optional system,. Skyrim has it with creation club and mods and fallout 4 along with new vegas has a survival mode.

Except, it's not. With an MMO, you kinda need players to be on (roughly) equal footing, and subject to the same basic rules. You can tweak some elements of that based on player choices, but entire systems (like adding a survival mode) would need to be server wide, or put some players at a significant advantage over others.

Brrrofski

No

When will people realise this isn't Skyrim v2

Elder Scrolls 6 is coming soon, in like 5 years maybe. There will be a most like this for that at some point.

idk

No

OMG no. LOL.

If OP had even played a survival game they would know this game is not even setup for such things and would require much work that just would not make sense. That much is so obvious.

If OP had trouble figuring that out and for some reason confused this game with Ark Survival then well, that was a huge mistake.

Granted, I did not read the entire post as the first few sentences had me busting at the seams being I have played survival game where things like temperature matters. Makes a great PvP environment.

If this is the type of game OP wants, especially with PvP, there are some great titles out there with one possible large server design that may come to market later this year. Most Survival games are small server designs.

Tandor

No

No, it's just totally wrong for this type of game. The fact that it would be optional is irrelevant, as it would take an inordinate amount of development time to implement which would be wholly disproportionate to the miniscule level of interest likely to be generated in it.