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Will you race-change?
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Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceI don't choose races for the passives, I choose based on how I want the character to look and which race I think suits them best/offers the most interesting back story.
Honestly I'd give away my race change tokens if I could because there's very little chance I'm ever going to use them, not just for this update but ever.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"0 -
barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Favorite race? The only races I don't use are the ugly ones.
If I'm mag, I go Breton or High Elf
For Stam It's Imperial or wood elf or Khajiit
What would the point in having a single "favorite" race be?0 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceNo need to race change, I picked my race from a theme/appearance standpoint.0 -
DTStormfox✭✭✭✭✭I will not race change because I don't want to spend cash on race change tokensIt's an easy cash grab, end of discussion.0 -
Loralai_907✭✭✭✭✭
✭I haven't decided. I'm super grumpy right now, but I didn't pick BiS races to begin with, and I am horribly attached to many of my characters the way they are right now. I am prepared for having to change how I play, what skills I use etc, we are used to that. But the dumb af changes to Bosmer have me almost ready to start flipping tables. I don't know why. I think its because it lacks sense on such a profound level I cannot begin to wrap my mind around it. If it at least made sense, even if it was still lame, I think I could hate it less than I hate the current plan.PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts3 -
bellanca6561n✭✭✭✭✭
✭The whole business of races having certain inherent combat-related characteristics is simply too bizarre to begin with and you can't have a sensible conversation about it. Then again, you can put massive siege equipment IN YOUR POCKET in this game. Thus how sensible can anything really be?
I created three Dunmers who are sisters and did so from the beginning. And I wrote backstories for them, not for RP, but to step outside myself and experience the game as an alternate life story that was, for me, more interesting than treating characters just as so much game gear.
Uh....change their races? What!?
Uh, no. And, as usual, none of the poll options suit
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RaddlemanNumber7✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceMy characters are all RP characters, not just a collection of stats. Even the ones with the super-competitive, solid gold PvP builds have a home life and backstories.
I did consider changing my Bosmer PvP Bow ganker to Dunmer, but it turns out there is no need. He can just stay at home in Snugpod nursing that arrow wound to his knee while he guards my equipment bag. I have a Khajiit Stam NB as well, and with a bit of adjustment to take advantage of the changes I find he can now do an even more scary amount of damage with a bow from stealth in 2 seconds.
What sound do Khajiit make when they want to laugh like a maniac?PC EU1 -
Mudcrabber✭✭✭✭I will race change for optimal performanceI main an argonian magplar dps. I didn't want to play a different role, or change it to a human or elf. So khajiit becoming magicka-viable has made it a really tempting option.
Khajiit got a bit weaker this week, and less favorable to my class and current gear, and I haven't figured out the character's new appearance, but it's still on the table.
Either way this will put me at 4 tokens so at least one of my 14 characters is getting turned into a Khajiit one way or another.1 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite racebellanca6561n wrote: »The whole business of races having certain inherent combat-related characteristics is simply too bizarre to begin with and you can't have a sensible conversation about it. Then again, you can put massive siege equipment IN YOUR POCKET in this game. Thus how sensible can anything really be?
I created three Dunmers who are sisters and did so from the beginning. And I wrote backstories for them, not for RP, but to step outside myself and experience the game as an alternate life story that was, for me, more interesting than treating characters just as so much game gear.
Uh....change their races? What!?
Uh, no. And, as usual, none of the poll options suit
I think it's pretty rare for a game to offer different races without different abilities. I've played a lot of RPGs and I can't remember any where that happens. It's not always passive bonuses of course, sometimes it's the classes (or sub-classes) they can choose or the weapons they can use, but there's almost always a difference.
The nearest I've seen to purely cosmetic races is in Guild Wars 2 where the only combat difference is a small selection of racial skills, all of which are designed to be weaker than the class skills so there's no need to worry about race when designing a build.
Personally I like the idea of cosmetic races, because it gives me more freedom to make characters as I like without worrying about being useless in combat, but I can also see the logic behind them having different abilities based on their culture and physical form.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceNot exactly my position, but near enough. I'll stay true to my characters as opposed to their race.0 -
Irfind✭✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceIrfind my stam NB Dunmer was my first char, so ... no change.
And Dunmer got a nice stam buff
PC EU no CP PVPEP Irfind - Stam NB DunmerEP Iswind - Mag Warden DunmerEP Ko'runa Silberklaue - Mag Temp KhajiitEP Eldrid Hagal - Mag DK DunmerEP Feyne R'is - Stam Sorc Dunmer ...with BowEP Wynn Loraethaine - Mag NB DunmerAD Runare Loraethaine - Stam Sorc AltmerAD Skadi Hagal - Stam DK Khajiit0 -
Mintaka5✭✭✭✭✭I will race change for optimal performanceWill feel it out after patch. If things go south with Altmer, will be switching to Breton. *** second time doing it too, since my magsorc was originally Breton. So annoying.0
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whitecrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceMy favorite race did get buffed but I would not change race anyway. I am surprised they offer it. If you role-play even a little bit it feels absurd and wrong.0 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm not sure. Probably half of my characters will be affected in a way I don't like. I'll feel like I'm between a rock and hard place. I won't like it either way.
The upcoming racial changes are purely lose/lose for me.0 -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭
✭I will Race change my Argonian (he is only level 20, but he is 60/60/60 Horse). Keeping my Redguards and Imperials.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceNo significant changes to warrant a race change. Everything went down a bit. Races good for X are still good and no good race is significantly out performing other good races.
Also, bad poll options so I guessed at which would be more popular. Was rightEdited by notimetocare on February 12, 2019 10:36PM0 -
PocketNova✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceAltmer since 2014. I am not changing now. I refuse.PC NA
Master Angler
Dressed as Wonder Woman
Living in Hogwarts0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭At least two toons will be goijg dark elf so I can swap between mag and stam. I’m too sick of the grind to level up new toons.0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceAll races except orc and argonian are my "favorites", and those two are just "okay" (have one of each, that's it). I'm not race changing anyone - I have some of everything over two accounts, and cover pretty much the entire gamut of classes etc.0 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I like seeing different reasons people have for switching or staying. We have people who switching races cause their favorite race is now viable. There's a person going between stamina and Magicka with just 1 race. Some just like all different options now. Only worrisome thing is a lot of players switching altmers.0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceI like seeing different reasons people have for switching or staying. We have people who switching races cause their favorite race is now viable. There's a person going between stamina and Magicka with just 1 race. Some just like all different options now. Only worrisome thing is a lot of players switching altmers.
I only have one (because they're just not all that appealing to me). I'm not changing her.0 -
Wildberryjack✭✭✭✭✭
✭You need another category. I'm likely to race change one character but only because I'm bored with his current race and want something different. I don't care about meta builds, just having fun.The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso0 -
KBKB✭✭✭✭✭
✭I will race change for optimal performanceI have 8 Max toons
Breton M Sorc - Same (has been resto destro since release wouldn't dream of changing race)
Orc S Sorc - Same
Imp S Templar Most likely Arognian or Khajit and back to Heals
Imp S DK - Same (was leaning towards Dunmer but Imp looking dece)
Redguard S NB - Same
Altmer M NB - Same (I really dont like Altmer's from law tho so maybe a Dunmer or Breton again)
Bosmer S Warden - Same
Altmer M Warden - Unsure
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »I like seeing different reasons people have for switching or staying. We have people who switching races cause their favorite race is now viable. There's a person going between stamina and Magicka with just 1 race. Some just like all different options now. Only worrisome thing is a lot of players switching altmers.
I only have one (because they're just not all that appealing to me). I'm not changing her.
Yeah I have one too but all changes make me kinda sad that I picked her race for meta at time. It was only 1/2 I did that with. Now honestly I just don't see enough reasons to keep it for my Templar healer. The altmer race just doesn't seem as interesting as Breton or Nord healer...hell even khajitt, dummer and bosmer look more fun. For me personally, I lost appeal of character concept.0 -
Vanthras79✭✭✭✭✭I will not change for my favourite race got buffedI still love my Breton
Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will not change to stay true to my favourite raceI like seeing different reasons people have for switching or staying. We have people who switching races cause their favorite race is now viable. There's a person going between stamina and Magicka with just 1 race. Some just like all different options now. Only worrisome thing is a lot of players switching altmers.
I only have one (because they're just not all that appealing to me). I'm not changing her.Sylvermynx wrote: »I like seeing different reasons people have for switching or staying. We have people who switching races cause their favorite race is now viable. There's a person going between stamina and Magicka with just 1 race. Some just like all different options now. Only worrisome thing is a lot of players switching altmers.
I only have one (because they're just not all that appealing to me). I'm not changing her.
Yeah I have one too but all changes make me kinda sad that I picked her race for meta at time. It was only 1/2 I did that with. Now honestly I just don't see enough reasons to keep it for my Templar healer. The altmer race just doesn't seem as interesting as Breton or Nord healer...hell even khajitt, dummer and bosmer look more fun. For me personally, I lost appeal of character concept.
I NEVER chase meta. When you live with 2k+ ms ping, there's no point in the first place. Second thing.... I just don't run that way. I play ESO the way I've always played the SPMR games: a character idea pops up., I make that person, and I play it. They all have elaborate backstories, they all have personalities.... they're PEOPLE to me.
Nope. Not going there as for race changes.Edited by Sylvermynx on February 13, 2019 1:31AM0
