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Drop eso+ or sub to vpn service?
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BRogueNZ✭✭✭✭✭This one if I sub and if use a vpn (which should be listed as a requirement for anyone outside the US/EU)
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Lelldorano✭✭✭Not sure what VPN you are using but check out mudfish. $3.00 of credit lasts well over a month playing several hours a day. I'm also from NZ, its not perfect but generally shaves 100ms off my ping with minimal spikes.6 -
BRogueNZ✭✭✭✭✭Lelldorano wrote: »Not sure what VPN you are using but check out mudfish. $3.00 of credit lasts well over a month playing several hours a day. I'm also from NZ, its not perfect but generally shaves 100ms off my ping with minimal spikes.
That's what I've noticed as well, used to be 300- 350ms without one, but whatever has happened in the last 3 or some months has shifted that to 350-450 unless I'm at the gate. Pretty much just in observer mode if there's anything mildly adventurous going on. Might check out mudfish.0 -
russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭I play in tondo, manila, Philippines.
5mbps, 250-300 ping. 60 fps 1080 uhs.
Plays great, except in cyrodiil.
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AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I use Private Internet Access: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/
Bought two years at a time it works out to less than 3 USD per month (or yearly is a bit over 3 USD), and I can attest that it does shave ping off with ESO. They also have a mobile VPN app you can use with iOS or Android.
Used this VPN for about 5 years now and it works great.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa1 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VPN should rater increase your ping as you as to be routed trough the VPN system who will add delays and probably an detour. It might be cases there it helps, but they should be rare.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.2 -
BRogueNZ✭✭✭✭✭VPN should rater increase your ping as you as to be routed trough the VPN system who will add delays and probably an detour. It might be cases there it helps, but they should be rare.
Used to be the case in the past, never noticed an improvement. I get the impression non business traffic gets sent the long way lately, at times I've been going through freakin Germany to get to the US.
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Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭A lot of people seem very confused as to what a VPN does. If you need your gaming data to be secure, have at it, but as a tool to help with latency, don't waste your money.3 -
fred4✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I'm on Express VPN, because my ISP uses a form of load balancing that breaks ESO without a VPN. Ping is unaffected.
Nord VPN is a possibly cheaper alternative, while Speedify is one that was originally made for gamers. The latter appears to be totally unique among VPNs, as it is able to bond multiple connections together, such as your mobile and landline. It transmits and receives on those connection simultaneously and, I believe, reduces average ping times by dynamically going with the service that offers the best latency at any given moment. They developed their own VPN protocol for that.
I use 4G+, which has good consistency and marginally better pings than my landline had. Might be the exception, though. i live in a city.
ESO+ is, what?, $13 a month for 6 months? Once you've started using the extra bank space and craft bag, it's hard to go back, at least when you are always trying new builds. It took me a long time to sign up, but If you perhaps like buying some costumes and haircuts, the crowns you get, and of course the DLC, makes it good value.2 -
fred4✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭A lot of people seem very confused as to what a VPN does. If you need your gaming data to be secure, have at it, but as a tool to help with latency, don't waste your money.
Right and wrong. Look up Speedify.
There is also the issue that ESO uses TCP, whereas a VPN might get you close to ZOS' server in Germany or the States and use UDP for the main stretch of the connection. That might not help nearly as much as ZOS using UDP themselves, but it is technically possible for a VPN to implement more aggressive packet repetition than TCP has, which might just help on what is a low bandwidth data stream. I also had frequent lag spikes with my previous ISP that appeared related to the particular routing from that ISP to Germany. A VPN would allow you to change and play around with the routing.
In principle you are correct. A VPN - aside from Speedify - ought not help. In practice, I think it can. No guarantees and maybe not the first thing I'd try, but it can.Edited by fred4 on February 11, 2019 2:04AM1 -
Lelldorano✭✭✭A lot of people seem very confused as to what a VPN does. If you need your gaming data to be secure, have at it, but as a tool to help with latency, don't waste your money.
This is true if you're in the US but from New Zealand, without a VPN my ping in game is 350+ with a random chance of 999+ spikes whenever changing zone. With the VPN it is 210-230ms with no big spikes.
It's all to do with the way our game packets are routed. Normally they are sent through the Netherlands and god knows where before getting to the US server, resulting in the high latency and packet loss. With the VPN we can connect straight to a west US node then to the game server. There is an overhead of about 20-30ms but the ping is still way lower than without it.2 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A lot of people seem very confused as to what a VPN does. If you need your gaming data to be secure, have at it, but as a tool to help with latency, don't waste your money.
Right and wrong. Lookup Speedify.
There is also the issue that ESO uses TCP, whereas a VPN might get you close to ZOS' server in Germany or the States and use UDP for the main stretch of the connection. That might not help nearly as much as ZOS using UDP themselves, but it is technically possible for a VPN to implement more aggressive packet repetition than than TCP has, which might just help on what is a low bandwidth data stream. I also had frequent lag spikes with my previous ISP that appeared related to the particular routing from that ISP to Germany. A VPN would allow you to change and play around with the routing.
In principle you are correct. A VPN - aside from Speedify - ought not help. In practice, I think it can. No guarantees and maybe not the first thing I'd try, but it can.
Depends on the reason for a the lag.
I agree that a VPN MAY reduce lag if your path to the services are roundabout and/or go through slow hops along the way, but they won't do much if ZoS servers are choking on too many calculations.
That said, a VPN is very useful in many situations, for privacy or sometimes to get around zone restricted content. For example I live in Canada and we have Comedy Network, which is the Canadian version of Comedy Central. For some reason I can't watch videos on Comedy Central even though it is all programming I have paid for with Comedy Network. The CN website is terrible compared to the CC website.
So I use a VPN so the site thinks I am in the US. Lots of examples like that.0 -
AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A lot of people seem very confused as to what a VPN does. If you need your gaming data to be secure, have at it, but as a tool to help with latency, don't waste your money.
Except that many modern VPN service providers go to great lengths to ensure that their traffic pathways are optimized for speed and latency. Connecting to a server in this manner oftentimes is more direct and has less nodes to path through.
That's why even though I live 2 hours away from the NA server farm in Dallas, I have 200+ ping a lot of times. It's because of the default pathing through nodes that ZOS uses to route traffic to Dallas, up to Maryland for the DDoS protection service they use, and then back to Dallas, then back to you. Connecting through VPN, ping drops by half to 100 or less. Less nodes to path through = less latency.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa1 -
Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A lot of people seem very confused as to what a VPN does. If you need your gaming data to be secure, have at it, but as a tool to help with latency, don't waste your money.
Either youre a troll or you have no idea what youre talking about
Many people, me included, use vpn to reduce our ping in TESO
We do it on a daily basis and yet successfully.
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fred4✭✭✭✭✭
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Where I live, normal in-game ping is in the 100ms to 120ms range. When ZOS servers are choking, it rises to between 130ms and 180ms. When it's consistently elevated, like that, I've learnt that it's ZOS servers and it's time to leave Cyro for IC, where the problem is immediately fixed.I agree that a VPN MAY reduce lag if your path to the services are roundabout and/or go through slow hops along the way, but they won't do much if ZoS servers are choking on too many calculations.
Whatever your normal ping is - perhaps it's better or worse than mine - when you notice that consistent in-game ping elevation, as opposed to large spikes, that probably tells you it's ZOS' servers. Or you could just crouch, then get up and run. If there is a noticeable delay before you start moving faster, that tends to be ZOS' server lag, in my case. That test may not work on a vampire, I guess.Edited by fred4 on February 11, 2019 2:30AM0 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have Windscribe. My game won't update without it. I've been told its a Fios issue.0 -
EllieBlue✭✭✭✭Australia here. Without VPN, I won't be on ESO at all as I get disconnected every 2-5 minutes continuously. I use Strong VPN, USD60/year so USD$5/month. Eso+ cost me 11.95 euro/month (or something like that), renewed every 3 months. I connect to a server in Frankfurt. My ping is still insane at 350+ on good days to 500-999+ on bad days. But I managed. A VPN service and eso+ should not cost $40/month though.Nirn Traders GM (est 2015)
PC EU
Semi-retired. Playing games for fun. Super casual.0 -
wolf486✭✭✭✭I've been using PIA for about 3 years now (20 days my yearly sub runs out). With the currency conversion from USD -> CDN it costs me about $60/year. I use it more for privacy concerns though, not gaming. Also since PIA updated their client software completely recently, I use it so I can access the American Netflix since the Canadian one is so terrible.
I get 100-140ping in ESO, it *usually* goes up with the vpn on so I disable it while playing.
So PIA/yearly sub + ESO+/6 months sub would = about $20/month (even tho you pay up front).
IMO vpn > ESO+ (if choosing only one).PC/NAMoved onto BDO and GW2 Skyrim, ATS/ETS2, ACNH and the overall goodness of single player games
RIP to the following:
(DC) Tharbûrz gro-Glumgrog - Orsimer -Stamden (lvl 50)
(AD) Vukz - Bosmer - Stamblade (lvl 50)0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mudfish. Takes a bit to figure out what settings work best for you and you might have better luck choosing a node but it does work and most importantly keeps spikes to a very minimal amount. It’s not a VPN really, it’s a routing service and it applies only to ESO so other trafffic won’t use up the credit. 5 bucks gets you 40gb and lasts me for months.0
