I want to be super aggressive in pvp

bongtokin420insd16 · February 2019

The title says it all. I just don't know whats the best way to go about it. Stamdk seems legit, so does stamplar, so does stamden lol. I don't hate mag in any way, but i was hoping to roll a race i don't have, like orc?

Thoughts? What could put me in the middle of the action and be able to survive and damage as well as play group or solo? I'm not asking for much am i lol.

If not orc, then maybe Dumner? I just don't want to play an AD character (i have 5) or a human. Something fun and flashy. Doesn't have to be easy per say. Thanks for the input.

Idinuse · February 2019

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

The title says it all. I just don't know whats the best way to go about it. Stamdk seems legit, so does stamplar, so does stamden lol. I don't hate mag in any way, but i was hoping to roll a race i don't have, like orc?

Thoughts? What could put me in the middle of the action and be able to survive and damage as well as play group or solo? I'm not asking for much am i lol.

If not orc, then maybe Dumner? I just don't want to play an AD character (i have 5) or a human. Something fun and flashy. Doesn't have to be easy per say. Thanks for the input.

Oh I'd suggest a Stamden. Use a 2H and DW then have your cat walk over the keyboard and count your kills.

Luigi_Vampa · February 2019

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

The title says it all. I just don't know whats the best way to go about it. Stamdk seems legit, so does stamplar, so does stamden lol. I don't hate mag in any way, but i was hoping to roll a race i don't have, like orc?

Thoughts? What could put me in the middle of the action and be able to survive and damage as well as play group or solo? I'm not asking for much am i lol.

If not orc, then maybe Dumner? I just don't want to play an AD character (i have 5) or a human. Something fun and flashy. Doesn't have to be easy per say. Thanks for the input.

Check out some Fengrush builds. His playstyle has always been one to get into the fight, get in your face and charge breeches. He also mostly builds Orcs.

Heimpai · February 2019

Orcs will be good for brawler builds unless the passives change again

I’m going with orc or redgaurd on my stamden

Idinuse · February 2019

Luigi_Vampa wrote: »

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

The title says it all. I just don't know whats the best way to go about it. Stamdk seems legit, so does stamplar, so does stamden lol. I don't hate mag in any way, but i was hoping to roll a race i don't have, like orc?

Thoughts? What could put me in the middle of the action and be able to survive and damage as well as play group or solo? I'm not asking for much am i lol.

If not orc, then maybe Dumner? I just don't want to play an AD character (i have 5) or a human. Something fun and flashy. Doesn't have to be easy per say. Thanks for the input.

Check out some Fengrush builds. His playstyle has always been one to get into the fight, get in your face and charge breeches. He also mostly builds Orcs.

Also don't forget to always bring two pocket healers if using those builds.

TiZzA93 · February 2019

I use 2h/SnB on stamden Orc its really fun to play, i have 2 main set-ups:

Solo / 1vX: 5pc 7th legion (weaps/jewellery) 5pc fury 2pc bloodspawn skills make sure to have bugs a couple heals.
Group play: 5 piece hunding (heavy chest/legs,3 med) 5 piece automaton (weaps/jewellery) and 2pc balorgh.

Both builds have insane burst u need dubious food for sustain

Jules · February 2019

If you're looking to be equally aggressive in group & solo I'd say go stamden.
AOE fracture and spin2win makes for great dmg and can be translated to group or solo fights.

Stamplar is very good in groups, solid damage and purify is invaluable to your teammates. However, stamplar is likely in medium due to healing restraints and this makes it squishier, with worse sustain than stamden solo.

Stamdk and stamden are pretty neck & neck in terms of damage output and tankability, depends on who you talk to as to whether they think one or the other is more effective solo. However in group, stamden brings minor toughness and a burstier aoe fracture, as well as major resolve/ward if needed to group, and perhaps even aoe defiles/healing ults. In comparison, stamdk lacks a very good identity group wise. They do bring minor brutality and damage, but imo this just pales in comparison to what stamden brings.

Luigi_Vampa · February 2019

Idinuse wrote: »

Luigi_Vampa wrote: »

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

The title says it all. I just don't know whats the best way to go about it. Stamdk seems legit, so does stamplar, so does stamden lol. I don't hate mag in any way, but i was hoping to roll a race i don't have, like orc?

Thoughts? What could put me in the middle of the action and be able to survive and damage as well as play group or solo? I'm not asking for much am i lol.

If not orc, then maybe Dumner? I just don't want to play an AD character (i have 5) or a human. Something fun and flashy. Doesn't have to be easy per say. Thanks for the input.

Check out some Fengrush builds. His playstyle has always been one to get into the fight, get in your face and charge breeches. He also mostly builds Orcs.

Also don't forget to always bring two pocket healers if using those builds.

True. I knew my post would get a response like this. The guy did use to solo a lot way back. Now he usually has a pocket healer or his Orc army with him. His playstyle is still aggressive though. And at the risk of being called a fanboy, he is one of the only PvP streamers that I find enjoyable to watch.

Disclaimer: I don't personally use his or any other streamer / YouTube builds. I build for myself. I was just giving OP some direction to look into.

TiZzA93 · February 2019

I see alot of stamdk suggestions ive very rarely seen a death tooltip with anything stamdk? I only have a pve dk tank tho, are stamdks actually as aggressive as stamden genuinely interested been thinking of playing a new toon until necro here

Rake · February 2019

For super aggressive maybe go Redguard.
Their passives are tied with attacking enemy.

Beardimus · February 2019

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

The title says it all. I just don't know whats the best way to go about it. Stamdk seems legit, so does stamplar, so does stamden lol. I don't hate mag in any way, but i was hoping to roll a race i don't have, like orc?

Thoughts? What could put me in the middle of the action and be able to survive and damage as well as play group or solo? I'm not asking for much am i lol.

If not orc, then maybe Dumner? I just don't want to play an AD character (i have 5) or a human. Something fun and flashy. Doesn't have to be easy per say. Thanks for the input.

Stamsorc are ON it

Nestor · February 2019

Being super aggressive is easy, just attack everything.

Being successful at it? That is the real trick...😁

Iskiab · February 2019

As a healer watching other players. Go DK, hands down no contest. Werewolf is another good option, only problem with werewolves is they tend to use their charge and jump too far ahead of teammates and get themselves into trouble.

Get_Packed · February 2019

Pick a playstyle you can excel at and dont wear heavy.

mursie · February 2019

Jules wrote: »

If you're looking to be equally aggressive in group & solo I'd say go stamden.
AOE fracture and spin2win makes for great dmg and can be translated to group or solo fights.

Stamplar is very good in groups, solid damage and purify is invaluable to your teammates. However, stamplar is likely in medium due to healing restraints and this makes it squishier, with worse sustain than stamden solo.

Stamdk and stamden are pretty neck & neck in terms of damage output and tankability, depends on who you talk to as to whether they think one or the other is more effective solo. However in group, stamden brings minor toughness and a burstier aoe fracture, as well as major resolve/ward if needed to group, and perhaps even aoe defiles/healing ults. In comparison, stamdk lacks a very good identity group wise. They do bring minor brutality and damage, but imo this just pales in comparison to what stamden brings.

agree with the above. stamden is tier A. that said, if you do play more solo than group, maybe give stamsorc a look. I would significantly prefer stamden to stamsorc in group play but solo the stamsorc brings excellent mobility and some good kit features that allow it to excel. The issue wtih stamden solo is that your dmg is very telegraphed and predictable. it's still very efficient, but also more easily countered.

Ragnarock41 · February 2019

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

The title says it all. I just don't know whats the best way to go about it. Stamdk seems legit, so does stamplar, so does stamden lol. I don't hate mag in any way, but i was hoping to roll a race i don't have, like orc?

Thoughts? What could put me in the middle of the action and be able to survive and damage as well as play group or solo? I'm not asking for much am i lol.

If not orc, then maybe Dumner? I just don't want to play an AD character (i have 5) or a human. Something fun and flashy. Doesn't have to be easy per say. Thanks for the input.

Well short answer is stamina warden, since it blows every other option out of consideration. But without the obvious answer, I will give you a very basic list of what every stam class is good at:

1. StamSorc: fast, hits hard, but lacks any sort of healing, Its the perfect class to get in, kill some scrubs, then get out.
2. StamDk: Slow, sturdy,easy to heal. I see stamDk as more of a tanky ''guardian'' in group play , you can easily use guard on allies to help them stay alive and your kit is very good for 1v1'ing enemies.
3. Stamplar: Very strong this patch, has good burst but not the best, good healing but not the best, has the ability to cleanse debuffs, overall strong class but not as straightforward as the two above.
4. Stamblade: Despite what people think if you build them as a brawler they are like a more damage oriented version of stamDk. Heavily 1v1 focused, but with less healing and tons more damage.

I played a bit of every class above, that is my opinion on them. Depending on what you ask for I would say stamsorc or stamden suits your playstyle but you might also like stamplar despite its flaws. Also keep in mind stamsorc and stamDK are very heavily based on weapon abilities unlike the others.

psychotic13 · February 2019

Stamsorc is my main and i play that as a brawler, orc as race. Troll King, Hulking and Cyrodils Ward with master bow back bar. Arteum takeaway broth as food.

Works great at the moment but not sure if it will work next patch with all races losing the 20% health recovery passive.

Iskiab · February 2019

Yea, you might want to listen to everyone else instead of me. I pvp heal so see them in action, but you won’t always have a healer.

With that being said, as a NB healer when you group with a good DK it’s pretty ridiculous. They get over 20 PKs with 0-3 deaths.

Other classes just don’t consistently perform as well from my experience.

validifyedneb18_ESO · February 2019

Rather counter-intuitively, if you want to be aggressive, you want to play with heavy armor sets.

There are lots of builds out there for all races that are able to shrug off large amounts of damage and then pile enough burst into a few procs and and ult for example and get the kills.

Personally I like my magwarden, Living Trellis + Ice Fortress make for a much more tanky full-clothie than you would expect. Then 30% damage mitigation on top with the ult and I can push into large groups, and assuming my team is with me, clear them up.

Metemsycosis · February 2019

Stamplar. Jabs is an advanced version of spray and pray.

Waylander · February 2019

Super aggressive whispers after each fight? Class race doesn't matter.

I've met some super aggressive whisperers and I couldn't tell you what race/class they were.

Vapirko · February 2019

Am I the only one who can’t stand playing Stam Warden? To me it’s just Stam Sorc with better passives, you’re still relying on wpn skills primarily, dizzy swing sucks and spin to win is cheese. Are people using cliff racer to good effect?

devilsTear · February 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

Am I the only one who can’t stand playing Stam Warden? To me it’s just Stam Sorc with better passives, you’re still relying on wpn skills primarily, dizzy swing sucks and spin to win is cheese. Are people using cliff racer to good effect?

I don't like stamden either, I know everyone says they're so good but I do way better on my stamdk personally.

Kadoin · February 2019

devilsTear wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Am I the only one who can’t stand playing Stam Warden? To me it’s just Stam Sorc with better passives, you’re still relying on wpn skills primarily, dizzy swing sucks and spin to win is cheese. Are people using cliff racer to good effect?

I don't like stamden either, I know everyone says they're so good but I do way better on my stamdk personally.

Stam DK the best stam class in my opinion. There is no fight you can't win on a stam DK with patience...

Though mabye I'm biased because I honestly hated stam warden too (and I don't like mag warden that much either, but meh already leveled it up).

ChunkyCat · February 2019

The best way to start your adventures in aggression is to obviously queue up for some PvP. Once you’re found some PvP areas, get yourself out of your safe zone and hippity hop on into some danger.

But don’t go looking for a massive Zerg Fight, just look for a onesie or twosie. Then, engage!

But here’s the real trick... here’s what they don’t tel you in the history books... if you truly want to be an Aggressive PvP’er.... lose the fight.

Don’t get me wrong, put up a good fight! But just don’t win it! Very important!

So, when you finally respawn, scroll up to see who had the killing blow. Armed with that juicy bit of info, send your would be assassin a hate filled rant of a whisper. It could start out with something like: “

“you only killed me because my ulti was down!”

Or

“you suck! Good players don’t rely on -insert random thing- to win”

Or

Pretty much anything else you can come up with. Be original. Be crazy. Have some fun with it.

And with that... Congratulations!! You’re finally on your way to becoming the most aggressive PvPer out there!

vamp_emily · February 2019

Stam warden seems to be a good choice but what I have seen lately, while watching players duel, stam dk seems very strong.

I'm not a great player but very aggressive. To be good and aggressive you need to master your skills and your environment. Knowing how to move around your environment will help you survive against 1vX situations.

Study how other players play will also make you better.

bongtokin420insd16 · February 2019

A big thanks all. I have decided to roll the orc stamden but I did consider the other options as well. FYI I have a redguard stamdk and sorc already and I agree they both also rock.

Jules · February 2019

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

A big thanks all. I have decided to roll the orc stamden but I did consider the other options as well. FYI I have a redguard stamdk and sorc already and I agree they both also rock.

Good luck! Hope you have fun

TheBonesXXX · February 2019

Find someone who killed you ig and kick em in the nards IRL.

thedude33 · February 2019

Nestor wrote: »

Being super aggressive is easy, just attack everything.

Being successful at it? That is the real trick...😁

Agree, just ask Leroy

TiZzA93 · February 2019

@thedude33 i was running vCR+3 with my progression guild and the lead kept saying brb instead of starting while everyone was already waiting, so i thought *** it 'leeeeerrrroooooooyyyyjjjjeeeeeenkiiiiiiinnnsss' and ran into it then after everyone laughed and wiped the lead kicked me XD