Login Rewards are not free

spartaxoxo

They are encouraging you to perform a task you wouldn't normally do. Most people do NOT login every single day. But that's what ZOS wants you to do.

They then will be able to say to their money guys that they have x amount of players logging in every day.

It's an incentive, not a free gift. And they push that incentive fairly aggressively with the notifications.There is nothing wrong with being critical of the system.

Neoealth

It costs me nothing, ergo it's free.

MartiniDaniels

Yes, you are right. This is done to improve statistics and also stimulate players to buy crates.
But in last 6 month you received 250k gold, ton of viable consumables, dozens of expensive exp scrolls, several cosmetics (most are crap, but some are nice), dozen of free crown crates.
So from perspective of active player adding those rewards was great thing from ZOS, and if you are not active player then why you care at all?

Wildberryjack

I'd log in every day if possible anyway. And tbh the log in rewards the past few months haven't been that great so if i miss out on some it isn't a big deal. Now, if they put some super amazing thing as the FINAL log in reward of the month, yeah that would be a problem and a massive steaming pile of bull dung on their end to do.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

You fail to take into account many of us login everyday anyway so it isn't an incentive to us.

Shantu

Since when can't an incentive be a free gift?

susmitds

In that case nothing is free in the world. Everything that is free, usually has someone's best interests in mind(usually marketing or damage control).

fgoron2000

spartaxoxo wrote: »

They are encouraging you to perform a task you wouldn't normally do. Most people do NOT login every single day. But that's what ZOS wants you to do.

They then will be able to say to their money guys that they have x amount of players logging in every day.

It's an incentive, not a free gift. And they push that incentive fairly aggressively with the notifications.There is nothing wrong with being critical of the system.

umm, i wonder if anyone wasn't already aware of this? I already logged in every day, so the rewards are free for me...

yodased

its purchased with the currency of your time and engagement, as are all things of this nature.

The word is included.

Most signifies some sort statistical data you have no way of accessing.

Hyperbole of post 100/10

kongkim

And so what? Were is the bad thing in it.
The thing they do and the CS is what make the game run around.

notimetocare

spartaxoxo wrote: »

They are encouraging you to perform a task you wouldn't normally do. Most people do NOT login every single day. But that's what ZOS wants you to do.

They then will be able to say to their money guys that they have x amount of players logging in every day.

It's an incentive, not a free gift. And they push that incentive fairly aggressively with the notifications.There is nothing wrong with being critical of the system.

While doesn't log in every day? Some days I'm too tired after work so I won't, but any day I can I log in and play. Incentive or not, it is free. You pay nothing to log in...

spartaxoxo

kongkim wrote: »

And so what? Were is the bad thing in it.
The thing they do and the CS is what make the game run around.

There isn't anything wrong with it. But this idea that it's a gift they do out of some sort of kindness, and that the system is above criticism is silly.

It's an incentive. You do something to get it.

AWinterWolf

I log in anyway, so getting a reward for it, is pretty nice to be fair.

Punches_Below_Belt

You have to wonder about the gratification people receive from being the one trying to suck as much fun out everything as they can. Maybe just take a break from being a crusader for truth and cynicism and just be grateful and enjoy.

AhPook_Is_Here

IF your time is worth nothing than they are free.

kongkim

spartaxoxo wrote: »

kongkim wrote: »

And so what? Were is the bad thing in it.
The thing they do and the CS is what make the game run around.

There isn't anything wrong with it. But this idea that it's a gift they do out of some sort of kindness, and that the system is above criticism is silly.

It's an incentive. You do something to get it.

I think people a glad for the things they get. But don't think anyone think its pure kindness Its a way to get people to log in as you say. And when people log in some of them will also play and some will buy stuff.

Same as in shops were they put all the candy close to were you pay. its make people buy more of it Its how people works.

spartaxoxo

kongkim wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

kongkim wrote: »

And so what? Were is the bad thing in it.
The thing they do and the CS is what make the game run around.

There isn't anything wrong with it. But this idea that it's a gift they do out of some sort of kindness, and that the system is above criticism is silly.

It's an incentive. You do something to get it.

I think people a glad for the things they get. But don't think anyone think its pure kindness Its a way to get people to log in as you say. And when people log in some of them will also play and some will buy stuff.

Same as in shops were they put all the candy close to were you pay. its make people buy more of it Its how people works.

Yea, I just get tired of seeing "They are just being nice, it's free, blah blah blah" in any thread where someone wants to discuss the login rewards.

I think it's nice if you like liking it, but anyone who wants the system to better isn't some ungrateful monster who is spitting on some free gift zos tried to give them out of kindness. You know?

Elsonso

spartaxoxo wrote: »

They are encouraging you to perform a task you wouldn't normally do. Most people do NOT login every single day. But that's what ZOS wants you to do.

They then will be able to say to their money guys that they have x amount of players logging in every day.

It's an incentive, not a free gift. And they push that incentive fairly aggressively with the notifications.There is nothing wrong with being critical of the system.

If this is how a player feels, my opinion is that is the player's idea, not that of ZOS.

Honestly, I think ZOS is fine with people not logging in every day. As I have said elsewhere, they get no immediate benefit from having people log in every day. They can actually cause burnout if they get too aggressive with that.

I think that all they really want is something that will get people to pause long enough to see the latest Crown Store advert that they pop up at login. If someone does that daily, great, but if they do it enough to catch all the latest Crown Store specials, that is acceptable.

Personally, I log in every day, when I am not on a vacation or business trip, and have been doing that for years. I don't necessarily conform to when ZOS says the day starts (midnight GMT), so I do not always get every reward, even when I log in every day during a month, but that is OK. I was logging in almost daily long before there was a reward.

VaranisArano

In terms of pure economics, there's an opportunity cost for everything. So, technically, yes, the login rewards aren't free. We pay with time and effort.

For most of us, however, that time and effort to login every day was something we were already doing or is negligible compared to the time/effort/money it would take to get those items the normal way.

Odnoc

If you're logging in to play the game, it isn't incentive, and you're not paying anything. If you're logging in for the free rewards, sounds like you're bored with the game and you're doing life wrong.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. There are players that whine they didn't get the good reward because they only logged in 15 days of the month, ZOS changes that, now they aren't going to miss a good reward. Now people are whining that it's not worth getting. They can't win with you people.

Tornaad

spartaxoxo wrote: »

They are encouraging you to perform a task you wouldn't normally do. Most people do NOT login every single day. But that's what ZOS wants you to do.

They then will be able to say to their money guys that they have x amount of players logging in every day.

It's an incentive, not a free gift. And they push that incentive fairly aggressively with the notifications.There is nothing wrong with being critical of the system.

I work 40 hours a week. I am also going back to school trying to get a bachelor's degree. My study time averages between 20 and 30 hours a week. Additionally life has thrown me a major curveball with a major medical emergency in my family that has already required a lifestyle change involving a lot more work and time. In an average day, I am lucky to get 6 hours of sleep at night.


I do not find it a burden to get logged in and get my free gift every day. On my worst days, I can easily take 5 minutes, log in, and get my free gift.

Tabbycat

Unless you just really want that dress, I don't think this month's rewards are going to entice anyone to log in daily.

Katheriah

Or you say 'meh, I can do without that' and just do what you would normally do? It's not like you're getting an amazeballz skin if you login every day of the month.

laissezfaire

Simple rule of economics. Nothing is ever free.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

What if we log in everyday because we enjoy the game?

AWinterWolf

We don't need these login rewards, they are something given to us, all we have to do, is log in (which to be fair, a lot of us do a lot anyway, without this incentive.)

Yes, they are trying to up their statistic and sell us stuff, what gaming company isn't set out to do so?

If you don't like the rewards, don't claim them, no one is forcing you to.

If they stated it was free, but you were expected to pay money for them, you'd have a point, but they are free, plain and simple.

Tommy_The_Gun

Neoealth wrote: »

It costs me nothing, ergo it's free.

Time - this is what it costs you.

firedrgn

Equivocation

demendred

You’re right TC!
I hate booting my system up, going on ESO and click that tab for my daily reward for logging in. Curse these demons!!!

angelncelestine

Feel free to complain or not to complain. I log in everyday to play the game so the stuff we get is just a bonus for me. I do find people that complain, and in the same breath say they don't even play the game kinda funny though.

MrGarlic

I only log on daily to train my horses, not for the rewards.