[Suggestion - QoL] Increase "Keen eyes" range

Aznarb

Hello,

1st : I don't have find a Suggestion category in the forum, so I put that here, sorry if it's not the place.
2sd : Yes, I know about Harvest Map addon, but to me it's like a cheat (you don't have to use skill point) and it's ugly (don't get me wrong, I don't blame anyone using this addon)

So, since I've max all Kee Eyes, I notice that the rang of the last level is very weak : 40meter only.
It's why I would ask to ZoS if they can buff it in the future ?

I'll put 2 screen, where you can see how it's short.
In the screen you'll see : 1 thief chest, we can see it from very far and on the second, much closer you will see 1 piece of wood (and like 2m further theeir is 2 plant than we can't see because of the very limited range of Keen eyes)
Also, it's the max range in the second screen, if I go back from 1 step, light disappear !
I've test in other direction too because of the little wall who can break LoS ; same thing.

As you can see, there is a huge difference and that why it should be buff imo to make it more useful and appealing.

Edit :

Also, one last suggestion :
- Why not add a "Keen eyes" like in Legerdemain tree for reveal chest in the world / dungeon ?
What do you think guys ?


Have a nice day everyone !

Haenk

Honestly, I wouldn't need keen eyes at all.
First, I know all the spawn points from my favorite gathering spots.
Second, the mats *look* different than the surrounding area (I disabled grass) and can be seen from far away, if you set your rendering distance to a higher level.

Aznarb

Haenk wrote: »

Honestly, I wouldn't need keen eyes at all.
First, I know all the spawn points from my favourite gathering spots.
Second, the mats *look* different than the surrounding area (I disabled grass) and can be seen from far away, if you set your rendering distance to a higher level.

I'm already in full graph don't worry about that.
But I'm gonna try to remove grass, thx for the tips.

Anyway, if we've this option in game, why not use it ? Atm the only problem is the range imo.
40m is to short, 50-60 would be better.

alanmatillab16_ESO

Aznarb wrote: »

Haenk wrote: »

Honestly, I wouldn't need keen eyes at all.
First, I know all the spawn points from my favourite gathering spots.
Second, the mats *look* different than the surrounding area (I disabled grass) and can be seen from far away, if you set your rendering distance to a higher level.

I'm already in full graph don't worry about that.
But I'm gonna try to remove grass, thx for the tips.

Anyway, if we've this option in game, why not use it ? Atm the only problem is the range imo.
40m is to short, 50-60 would be better.

6 months later:

60m is too short 80m would be better

40m is plenty and that is without all the addons that put the spawn locations, including chests, on a minimap to make them easy to find.

Hotdog_23

On console yes to increase range. I would like to be able to choose the color of the keen since console can not disable grass in setting, plus I really would not want to anyway. The keen eye gets washed out in the snow areas sometimes, which is why I would like to choose colors like we do for combat since us poor peasants have to spend those skill points on keen eye.

Aznarb

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

On console yes to increase range. I would like to be able to choose the color of the keen since console can not disable grass in setting, plus I really would not want to anyway. The keen eye gets washed out in the snow areas sometimes, which is why I would like to choose colors like we do for combat since us poor peasants have to spend those skill points on keen eye.

Yup, also on some node like platine who are big you don't even see the light until you'r close ^^'
Also agree for the color, in daylight we don't saw it that much, that why I mostly gather at night.


@alanmatillab16_ESO : Would be nice if you don't say thing like you know me.
I ask for soething that is barely used cuz lot of ppl use mod to see these thing easier.
Not everyone wanna use ton of mod for every thing.
We got this in game, so buff it a bit is a good way to make it useful.

That would not impact balance or game perf so why not ?

Also like Hotdog say, console player don't have addon.

LadyDestiny

Aznarb wrote: »

Hello,

1st : I don't have find a Suggestion category in the forum, so I put that here, sorry if it's not the place.
2sd : Yes, I know about Harvest Map addon, but to me it's like a cheat (you don't have to use skill point) and it's ugly (don't get me wrong, I don't blame anyone using this addon)

So, since I've max all Kee Eyes, I notice that the rang of the last level is very weak : 40meter only.
It's why I would ask to ZoS if they can buff it in the future ?

I'll put 2 screen, where you can see how it's short.
In the screen you'll see : 1 thief chest, we can see it from very far and on the second, much closer you will see 1 piece of wood (and like 2m further theeir is 2 plant than we can't see because of the very limited range of Keen eyes)
Also, it's the max range in the second screen, if I go back from 1 step, light disappear !
I've test in other direction too because of the little wall who can break LoS ; same thing.

As you can see, there is a huge difference and that why it should be buff imo to make it more useful and appealing.

Edit :

Also, one last suggestion :
- Why not add a "Keen eyes" like in Legerdemain tree for reveal chest in the world / dungeon ?
What do you think guys ?


Have a nice day everyone !

Do people actually waste points in these? Most I ever used was one point as it is such an unnecessary perk.

Feric51

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Aznarb wrote: »

Hello,

1st : I don't have find a Suggestion category in the forum, so I put that here, sorry if it's not the place.
2sd : Yes, I know about Harvest Map addon, but to me it's like a cheat (you don't have to use skill point) and it's ugly (don't get me wrong, I don't blame anyone using this addon)

So, since I've max all Kee Eyes, I notice that the rang of the last level is very weak : 40meter only.
It's why I would ask to ZoS if they can buff it in the future ?

I'll put 2 screen, where you can see how it's short.
In the screen you'll see : 1 thief chest, we can see it from very far and on the second, much closer you will see 1 piece of wood (and like 2m further theeir is 2 plant than we can't see because of the very limited range of Keen eyes)
Also, it's the max range in the second screen, if I go back from 1 step, light disappear !
I've test in other direction too because of the little wall who can break LoS ; same thing.

As you can see, there is a huge difference and that why it should be buff imo to make it more useful and appealing.

Edit :

Also, one last suggestion :
- Why not add a "Keen eyes" like in Legerdemain tree for reveal chest in the world / dungeon ?
What do you think guys ?


Have a nice day everyone !

Do people actually waste points in these? Most I ever used was one point as it is such an unnecessary perk.

On console I would say they are quite useful:

• No harvest map add-on.
• No turning off grass
• Makes the evening landscape look like a Christmas tree!

VaranisArano

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Aznarb wrote: »

Hello,

1st : I don't have find a Suggestion category in the forum, so I put that here, sorry if it's not the place.
2sd : Yes, I know about Harvest Map addon, but to me it's like a cheat (you don't have to use skill point) and it's ugly (don't get me wrong, I don't blame anyone using this addon)

So, since I've max all Kee Eyes, I notice that the rang of the last level is very weak : 40meter only.
It's why I would ask to ZoS if they can buff it in the future ?

I'll put 2 screen, where you can see how it's short.
In the screen you'll see : 1 thief chest, we can see it from very far and on the second, much closer you will see 1 piece of wood (and like 2m further theeir is 2 plant than we can't see because of the very limited range of Keen eyes)
Also, it's the max range in the second screen, if I go back from 1 step, light disappear !
I've test in other direction too because of the little wall who can break LoS ; same thing.

As you can see, there is a huge difference and that why it should be buff imo to make it more useful and appealing.

Edit :

Also, one last suggestion :
- Why not add a "Keen eyes" like in Legerdemain tree for reveal chest in the world / dungeon ?
What do you think guys ?


Have a nice day everyone !

Do people actually waste points in these? Most I ever used was one point as it is such an unnecessary perk.

By max level, I really only need Keen Eye for alchemy reagents. I have grass turned off, but Mountain Flower in particular blends into the landscape. The rest of the mats, being shiny or red, are hard to miss.

Now, when I was leveling pre-One Tamriel...

I'm EP. The zone where I got cotton for light armor crafting was Eastmarch.

White cotton. White snow.

Yeah, Keen Eye was a godsend.

Merlight

VaranisArano wrote: »

I have grass turned off, but Mountain Flower in particular blends into the landscape.

Oh how many times I've stomped on poor Mountain Flower while running for Bugloss 50m away...

Skwor

If you have alot of skillpoints keen eyes is still not a bad passive. Makes night picking completly brainless.

However the distance seems far enough ready and I suspect increasing it more would run into rendering issues. I am a max setting everything player and only those items at the very edge of me view field fail to highlight with keen vision.

This leads me to bekieve it would take a good bit more to code than just a simple distance modifier, a good bit more rendering to increase distance would be required.

Leocaran

I don't need increase. Have one point in them only on the crafter and only in alchemy mats and clothier, and that's enough. Everything else is visible as it is. Especially max level mats which are bright red.
Also grass is on and I don't need Harvester as it turned out.

Feric51 wrote: »

[*] Makes the evening landscape look like a Christmas tree!

What a horror!

Aznarb

Skwor wrote: »

If you have alot of skillpoints keen eyes is still not a bad passive. Makes night picking completly brainless.

However the distance seems far enough ready and I suspect increasing it more would run into rendering issues. I am a max setting everything player and only those items at the very edge of me view field fail to highlight with keen vision.

This leads me to believe it would take a good bit more to code than just a simple distance modifier, a good bit more rendering to increase distance would be required.

I don't think so for the rendering distance change.
Look on the thief chest, we can see it very far away and we don't have issue with.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Increase your draw distance in video settings. I can seen nodes a 1/4 mile away.

Darkhorse1975

I love max keen eye but it can be a bane for me too! I cant help running to each glowing spot and the next thing I know, Im on the opposite side of the zone from the survey I was going for! But I have so many adventures and see so many crazy character players that I would lean towards a greater distance view.

Aznarb

Darkhorse1975 wrote: »

I love max keen eye but it can be a bane for me too! I cant help running to each glowing spot and the next thing I know, Im on the opposite side of the zone from the survey I was going for! But I have so many adventures and see so many crazy character players that I would lean towards a greater distance view.

Ahaha same here, I just can't stop to pick-up all thing I see !