HappyTheCamper wrote: »Here’s my ESO specific list. Not necessarily the top, but some that come to my mind!
Breton - Darien Gautier (post Meridia knighthood)
Orcs - King Kurog
Redguard - Sai Sahan
Nord - Lyris Titanborn
Dunmer - Sotha Sil or Divayth Fyr
Argonian - Sees-All-Colors?
Altmer - Mannimarco or Vanus Galerion
Bosmer - Silvenar
Imperial - The Prophet or Abnur Tharn
Khajiit - Pacrooti (obviously)
generalmyrick wrote: »only this time parameter?
breton - talos?
HappyTheCamper wrote: »Here’s my ESO specific list. Not necessarily the top, but some that come to my mind!
Breton - Darien Gautier (post Meridia knighthood)
Orcs - King Kurog
Redguard - Sai Sahan
Nord - Lyris Titanborn
Dunmer - Sotha Sil or Divayth Fyr
Argonian - Sees-All-Colors?
Altmer - Mannimarco or Vanus Galerion
Bosmer - Silvenar
Imperial - The Prophet or Abnur Tharn
Khajiit - Pacrooti (obviously)
russelmmendoza wrote: »What race is cadwell.
He is op as ***.
Altmer is Vanus Galerion, once you take into account the fate of Mannimarco.
Also, according to lore, Jagar Tharn, primary antagonist of ES: Arena, the powerful imperial battlemage who usurped the emperor using the Staff of Chaos and is the ancestor of Abnur Tharn, was born in Valenwood to a Bosmer mother, so... in terms of raw power I'm voting Jagar Tharn.
I think Jamdarius's list is pretty good, agree a lot.
Bretons: Perhaps Dutheil, the Mad Architect, famous for being one of the few to serve multiple daedric lords and profit from it. Molag Bal contracted him during the Planemeld to construct the Endless Stair and Planar Vortex. He also made the Vaults of Madness.
Orcs: King Kurog legit seems a decent contendor, strong in combat, firm in rule, progressive in leadership, has foresight and thinks big picture, unites most of the orcs and rebuilds Orsinium, which itself seems pretty remarkable. But sadly his stubbornness and intractability let him down in the end. He's basically orc Stannis.
Red guards: Frandar Hunding. No doubt. Without him, Redguards would've been wiped out. Supreme master of frikkin mind swords.
Nords: My understanding is that Tiber Septim was a Nord, born in Skyrim or thereabouts and known alternatively as Hjalti, he was dragonborn in any case. He was the first person to unite all of Tamriel, started the Septim dynasty and was so baller he became a God. Otherwise, yeah Ysgramor or Shalidor are good shouts for obvious reasons. Ysmir Wulfharth is another contender, who had a thuum so powerful he couldn't speak without causing destruction around him. He was Atmoran born though.
Dunmer: Divayth Fir - His deeds speak for themselves, he is a supremely powerful mage and scientist, cloning himself in female form. He has outlasted all others and basically does what he wants. Fortunately for Tamriel he had no plans for conquest. The tribunal are arguably demi- or semi-gods so perhaps disqualified, and I'd back Divayth against Sotha and Alma anyway. Vivec is a tricky ***. Likewise, although Dagoth Ur becomes more powerful than the Tribunal, he also steals his power from Kagrenac's tools, so...
Argonian: Not many come to mind. It would probably be someone in ESO era, because it's the most we've really encountered of the Argonians in any depth. Reezal-Jul is a powerful necromancer that we meet in Rivenspire who raises the dead and creates vampires, or else Sees-All-Colours who at one point leads the Fighter's Guild.
However, during the Oblivion Crisis, the An-Xileel (an Argonian political faction) lead a force through the Oblivion Gates and gave the Daedra such a hiding on their own turf that the Daedric lords closed the gates rather than deal with the Argonians. The hist had given all Argonians increased powers of strength, speed and endurance. I imagine whoever lead the An-Xileel would have to be up there, because damn.
Altmer: Mannimarco - kicked off the planemeld, his evil deeds have spanned multiple eras, died several times, escaped molag bal, became a planet, killed Vanus Galerion and (reportedly) turned him into a thrall; has a powerful cult of worshippers who have terrorised Tamriel for centuries. Vanus Galerion was very powerful obviously, if depicted as a bit of a tool. He was Mannimarco's equal at one point, but lacked the willpower and disregard for natural limits that enabled Mannimarco to become the greatest lich in Tamriel history.
Khajiit: The Mane is technically unique amongst the Khajiit, and must therefore have some uniquely powerful abilities. I think M'aiq is likely a Khajiiti god in disguise, so perhaps that discounts him; however Pacrooti has a supremely powerful ability to get us to spend money on digital ephemera... but otherwise I'd say The Mane.
Bosmer: In terms of most powerful being it is probably The Green Lady, a physical embodiment of the Bosmer warrior spirit, and partner of the Silvenar. In terms of mere mortals, King Eplear united the Bosmeri (I think in the first age) and began the Camoran dynasty, he was supposedly a great general and just ruler. Also, according to lore, Jagar Tharn, primary antagonist of ES: Arena, the powerful imperial battlemage who usurped the emperor using the Staff of Chaos and is the ancestor of Abnur Tharn, was born in Valenwood to a Bosmer mother, so... in terms of raw power I'm voting Jagar Tharn.
Imperials: St Alessia seems a good choice in terms of the impact she had on history, although in terms of raw power probably not; other prominent and powerful imperials either weren't born imperial, or were actually incarnations of gods, Pelinaal, Morihaus, for example. Abnur Tharn is certainly a formidable imperial battlemage, with raw magical power as well as political power, very intelligent and scheming, and somehow extending his life beyond mortal means.
But Varen Aquilarius rose to Emperor through his own personal abilities of willpower, charisma, intelligence and strategy. He formed the companions and rebelled against the emperor to seize the throne. Not to mention his magical abilities when he becomes The Prophet, his supreme insight gained through reading the Elder Scrolls, his almost omniscience, despite being blinded he has formidable powers. He was able to hide himself from Molag Bal, and teleport others into his realm. Treating a daedric lord like a punk seems pretty powerful. Vote for Varen.
Dragons: I don't think dragons can count because aren't they all demi-Gods, immortal and also dead/alive/something in-between? Alduin for example is the first son of Akatosh.
Dwemer - yeah, gotta be Kagrenac right? Created the tools to draw power from the Heart of Lorkhan, which grants the Tribunal, Alm-Si-Vi, their divine abilities
Maormer: Would be Orgnum, King of the Maormer, who is seemingly immortal
Falmer: Knight-Paladin Gelebor was/is the last surviving untainted Falmer, so I guess him?
Sload: Possibly N'Gasta the Sload Necromancer from Redguard, who worshipped Clavicus Vile, and was only defeated by a redguard infused with the power of HoonDing, the Yokudan spirit of "perseverance over infidels" (very rarely summoned and unstoppable when done so apparently).
I think Jamdarius's list is pretty good, agree a lot.
Bretons: Perhaps Dutheil, the Mad Architect, famous for being one of the few to serve multiple daedric lords and profit from it. Molag Bal contracted him during the Planemeld to construct the Endless Stair and Planar Vortex. He also made the Vaults of Madness.
Orcs: King Kurog legit seems a decent contendor, strong in combat, firm in rule, progressive in leadership, has foresight and thinks big picture, unites most of the orcs and rebuilds Orsinium, which itself seems pretty remarkable. But sadly his stubbornness and intractability let him down in the end. He's basically orc Stannis.
Red guards: Frandar Hunding. No doubt. Without him, Redguards would've been wiped out. Supreme master of frikkin mind swords.
Nords: My understanding is that Tiber Septim was a Nord, born in Skyrim or thereabouts and known alternatively as Hjalti, he was dragonborn in any case. He was the first person to unite all of Tamriel, started the Septim dynasty and was so baller he became a God. Otherwise, yeah Ysgramor or Shalidor are good shouts for obvious reasons. Ysmir Wulfharth is another contender, who had a thuum so powerful he couldn't speak without causing destruction around him. He was Atmoran born though.
Dunmer: Divayth Fir - His deeds speak for themselves, he is a supremely powerful mage and scientist, cloning himself in female form. He has outlasted all others and basically does what he wants. Fortunately for Tamriel he had no plans for conquest. The tribunal are arguably demi- or semi-gods so perhaps disqualified, and I'd back Divayth against Sotha and Alma anyway. Vivec is a tricky ***. Likewise, although Dagoth Ur becomes more powerful than the Tribunal, he also steals his power from Kagrenac's tools, so...
Argonian: Not many come to mind. It would probably be someone in ESO era, because it's the most we've really encountered of the Argonians in any depth. Reezal-Jul is a powerful necromancer that we meet in Rivenspire who raises the dead and creates vampires, or else Sees-All-Colours who at one point leads the Fighter's Guild.
However, during the Oblivion Crisis, the An-Xileel (an Argonian political faction) lead a force through the Oblivion Gates and gave the Daedra such a hiding on their own turf that the Daedric lords closed the gates rather than deal with the Argonians. The hist had given all Argonians increased powers of strength, speed and endurance. I imagine whoever lead the An-Xileel would have to be up there, because damn.
Altmer: Mannimarco - kicked off the planemeld, his evil deeds have spanned multiple eras, died several times, escaped molag bal, became a planet, killed Vanus Galerion and (reportedly) turned him into a thrall; has a powerful cult of worshippers who have terrorised Tamriel for centuries. Vanus Galerion was very powerful obviously, if depicted as a bit of a tool. He was Mannimarco's equal at one point, but lacked the willpower and disregard for natural limits that enabled Mannimarco to become the greatest lich in Tamriel history.
Khajiit: The Mane is technically unique amongst the Khajiit, and must therefore have some uniquely powerful abilities. I think M'aiq is likely a Khajiiti god in disguise, so perhaps that discounts him; however Pacrooti has a supremely powerful ability to get us to spend money on digital ephemera... but otherwise I'd say The Mane.
Bosmer: In terms of most powerful being it is probably The Green Lady, a physical embodiment of the Bosmer warrior spirit, and partner of the Silvenar. In terms of mere mortals, King Eplear united the Bosmeri (I think in the first age) and began the Camoran dynasty, he was supposedly a great general and just ruler. Also, according to lore, Jagar Tharn, primary antagonist of ES: Arena, the powerful imperial battlemage who usurped the emperor using the Staff of Chaos and is the ancestor of Abnur Tharn, was born in Valenwood to a Bosmer mother, so... in terms of raw power I'm voting Jagar Tharn.
Imperials: St Alessia seems a good choice in terms of the impact she had on history, although in terms of raw power probably not; other prominent and powerful imperials either weren't born imperial, or were actually incarnations of gods, Pelinaal, Morihaus, for example. Abnur Tharn is certainly a formidable imperial battlemage, with raw magical power as well as political power, very intelligent and scheming, and somehow extending his life beyond mortal means.
But Varen Aquilarius rose to Emperor through his own personal abilities of willpower, charisma, intelligence and strategy. He formed the companions and rebelled against the emperor to seize the throne. Not to mention his magical abilities when he becomes The Prophet, his supreme insight gained through reading the Elder Scrolls, his almost omniscience, despite being blinded he has formidable powers. He was able to hide himself from Molag Bal, and teleport others into his realm. Treating a daedric lord like a punk seems pretty powerful. Vote for Varen.
Dragons: I don't think dragons can count because aren't they all demi-Gods, immortal and also dead/alive/something in-between? Alduin for example is the first son of Akatosh.
Dwemer - yeah, gotta be Kagrenac right? Created the tools to draw power from the Heart of Lorkhan, which grants the Tribunal, Alm-Si-Vi, their divine abilities
Maormer: Would be Orgnum, King of the Maormer, who is seemingly immortal
Falmer: Knight-Paladin Gelebor was/is the last surviving untainted Falmer, so I guess him?
Sload: Possibly N'Gasta the Sload Necromancer from Redguard, who worshipped Clavicus Vile, and was only defeated by a redguard infused with the power of HoonDing, the Yokudan spirit of "perseverance over infidels" (very rarely summoned and unstoppable when done so apparently).
Thing is Silvenar and Green Lady is more like a title of office, a function managed by some chosen individuals, same for the mane from Khajiit.
I picked Alessia (if Talos cannot be counted because of becoming god) not because she had powers beyond imagination herself but because she had the power of the people supporting her - that is also some kind of unique power to be able to unite everyone under her.
Agree for Maormer.
Breton: ye sure why not, honestly if you ask me Bretons are so bland atm that I hope TES VI will make them more interesting.
Orcs: King Kurog - well that is also good choice, but I wanted to take my pick outside of TESO (except Mannimarco/Vanus cause they appear in/are mentioned in other TES games).
We have a Lore category you could have put this in.