So you wonder why people wear heavy armor in pvp?

Kidgangster101

Was roaming YouTube today and found this video. It is not my video but would like to share for all to watch some glorious 2 shot build 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

But according to people damage isn't high enough in pvp lololol.

https://youtu.be/iL00gTnj2Q4

SkillzMFG

A nightblade killing people in 2 hits from invisibility? That's just normal NB experience as far as I know

Kidgangster101

SkillzMFG wrote: »

A nightblade killing people in 2 hits from invisibility? That's just normal NB experience as far as I know

Lol that's normal? So you should be dead before you can even attempt a breakout and actually fight?

El_Borracho

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Lol that's normal? So you should be dead before you can even attempt a breakout and actually fight?

Pretty sure that's what the kids call a "gank build" these days, sport.

SkillzMFG

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

SkillzMFG wrote: »

A nightblade killing people in 2 hits from invisibility? That's just normal NB experience as far as I know

Lol that's normal? So you should be dead before you can even attempt a breakout and actually fight?

It's been like this for quite a while now, I'm not a fan of it myself but that's the way things are and ZOS doesn't seem to be bothered to look into it.

Stam NBs can do this crazy damage at the initiation of a fight and Mag NBs can just perma cloak if they are endangered and run away to restart a fight, can't really say what's worse...giving me the illusion that I can kill you but you escape all the time, or just straight up killing me in 0.5 seconds. You decide

Royaji

Yep, and it has nothing to do with sets like Fury or Seventh Legion...

Micah_Bayer

That's a gank build lol

rafaelcsmaia

Not sure heavy armor would save u tho, those gank builds usually penetrate enough to hit u as if u were naked.

degarmo_ESO

Things that shouldn't exist in the game for $1,000.00, Alex.

Exodium

lol Nobleknightdark's my friend in game and we've PvPd together. He's a really good player so don't be misinformed that he's a bowtard snipe zergling like what this video may suggest.

But this is actually what it looks like to snipe with some sort of a rotation that goes beyond the standard; (*cloak* *cloak* --> snipe --> snipe --> *cloak* *cloak*) that most other Nightblades seem to use.

Moreover this is him showcasing how broken snipe is in its current state, although theres still a vocal percentage of the forum who think its 'balanced' and part of the 'ancient warfare practices' LOL.

Aisle9

Play in no-CP.
Use Impen.
Rebuff often if you're in enemy territory or during engagements.
...
Profit.

BTW, Onslaught (2H ulti) ignores physical resistance, so heavy armor would be as useful as a butt without a hole.

Caligamy_ESO

Should be interesting to see how the stealth detection set effects this playstyle here shortly..

Sentry
2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
3 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage
4 – Adds 833 Weapon Critical
5 – When you begin to crouch, gain Stealth Detection for 10 seconds. This effect can only be activated every 30 seconds.
5 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage

El_Borracho

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Should be interesting to see how the stealth detection set effects this playstyle here shortly..

Sentry
2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
3 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage
4 – Adds 833 Weapon Critical
5 – When you begin to crouch, gain Stealth Detection for 10 seconds. This effect can only be activated every 30 seconds.
5 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage

Man, that cooldown time is brutal. Might be better off with pots

Girl_Number8

If you die like that to a nb you need to get much more experience in PvP. First, it is not a good idea just to be standing around unaware, lol. Also, they edit out all the failed ganks, which are more then less and of course their squishy builds being crushed or them running away.

And he using that yummy 2h ulti for a lot of those potatoes and db, xD

Eejit1331

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Should be interesting to see how the stealth detection set effects this playstyle here shortly..

Sentry
2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
3 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage
4 – Adds 833 Weapon Critical
5 – When you begin to crouch, gain Stealth Detection for 10 seconds. This effect can only be activated every 30 seconds.
5 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage

Any idea what the detection range will be?

El_Borracho

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Should be interesting to see how the stealth detection set effects this playstyle here shortly..

Sentry
2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
3 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage
4 – Adds 833 Weapon Critical
5 – When you begin to crouch, gain Stealth Detection for 10 seconds. This effect can only be activated every 30 seconds.
5 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage

Just looked at this set again. Is this what they did/plan on doing to this set? Admittedly, I don't keep up on this stuff, but here is what the Sentry set does according to uesp.net and other sites:

2 items: Adds 12-1096 Maximum Stamina
3 items: Adds 1-129 Weapon Damage
4 items: Adds 9-833 Weapon Critical
5 items: Increases the radius you can detect Sneaking enemies by 50%. Increases your damage done to Sneaking enemies by 20%

That would be imminently more effective than the one you posted. Especially if you were a stamblade wearing this....

StarOfElyon

SkillzMFG wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

SkillzMFG wrote: »

A nightblade killing people in 2 hits from invisibility? That's just normal NB experience as far as I know

Lol that's normal? So you should be dead before you can even attempt a breakout and actually fight?

It's been like this for quite a while now, I'm not a fan of it myself but that's the way things are and ZOS doesn't seem to be bothered to look into it.

Stam NBs can do this crazy damage at the initiation of a fight and Mag NBs can just perma cloak if they are endangered and run away to restart a fight, can't really say what's worse...giving me the illusion that I can kill you but you escape all the time, or just straight up killing me in 0.5 seconds. You decide

Gilliam knows. He called it toxic before he worked for ZOS.

Aisle9

StarOfElyon wrote: »

SkillzMFG wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

SkillzMFG wrote: »

A nightblade killing people in 2 hits from invisibility? That's just normal NB experience as far as I know

Lol that's normal? So you should be dead before you can even attempt a breakout and actually fight?

It's been like this for quite a while now, I'm not a fan of it myself but that's the way things are and ZOS doesn't seem to be bothered to look into it.

Stam NBs can do this crazy damage at the initiation of a fight and Mag NBs can just perma cloak if they are endangered and run away to restart a fight, can't really say what's worse...giving me the illusion that I can kill you but you escape all the time, or just straight up killing me in 0.5 seconds. You decide

Gilliam knows. He called it toxic before he worked for ZOS.

*whispering* Use flares or detect pots...

It's always funny when they try to run away after being marked spamming cloak... I always imagine them raging "why is this thing bugged?!".

Or when they use shadow image and get snared in rearming trap...

Good times...

Soleya

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Was roaming YouTube today and found this video. It is not my video but would like to share for all to watch some glorious 2 shot build 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I prefer 1 shot builds.

danno8

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Should be interesting to see how the stealth detection set effects this playstyle here shortly..

Sentry
2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
3 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage
4 – Adds 833 Weapon Critical
5 – When you begin to crouch, gain Stealth Detection for 10 seconds. This effect can only be activated every 30 seconds.
5 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage

And while you are crouching you are slowed down, and that NB has run out of range of whatever detection you had.

It's more likely NB will use this set more effectively than everyone else.

Jameliel

If you're magic based then use the mage light morph that prevents stun from NBs stealthy attacks. If you're stam based, make sure you stay "buffed" up. When you get hit, break free and dodge roll. Pop detect potion and rush the NB. He will have to dodge roll and run for his life or die. If your lag is worse than the NBs, it's the fault of zos.

ccmedaddy

lol @ people thinking stealth detection will do s*it against sniper gankers

Vapirko

Of course, Stamina NBs have way too many upfront benefits when it comes to burst. I’ve said this before but I think it should change so let’s jjst look at what they can get mostly while still hidden and other things built into their main damage rotation.

Heres what stamblades get built into their normal rotation: 10% wpn damage while sneaking, a free CC while sneaking, activation of minor berserk on demand, first attack from stealth is a guaranteed crit, 15 SECONDS of major fracture, major defile, 20% increased damage to target after incap, snare and minor maim (mass hysteria). And if none of that works out for you well just pop a vigor and roll dodge into cloak, where you can then also use rally if you need to burst yourself to full health before you reingage with another incap strike already charged because stamblades also have insanely good ult gen.

My stamplar gets minor fracture from PoL, a snare and small crit boost from jabs, and my cc, while ranged, is simply just a knock down.

#balanced

Aisle9

Vapirko wrote: »

Of course, Stamina NBs have way too many upfront benefits when it comes to burst. I’ve said this before but I think it should change so let’s jjst look at what they can get mostly while still hidden and other things built into their main damage rotation.

Heres what stamblades get built into their normal rotation: 10% wpn damage while sneaking, a free CC while sneaking, activation of minor berserk on demand, first attack from stealth is a guaranteed crit, 15 SECONDS of major fracture, major defile, 20% increased damage to target after incap, snare and minor maim (mass hysteria). And if none of that works out for you well just pop a vigor and roll dodge into cloak, where you can then also use rally if you need to burst yourself to full health before you reingage with another incap strike already charged because stamblades also have insanely good ult gen.

My stamplar gets minor fracture from PoL, a snare and small crit boost from jabs, and my cc, while ranged, is simply just a knock down.

#balanced

As a stamplar you can put down extended ritual and remove defile, maim, fracture, dots, etc (up to 5 effects, purge only removes 2).

PotL is also a burst so powerful, sane people will run when you pop it on them

Jabs also does more damage through block and has increased crit damage, on top of being a cone aoe.

it's not a matter of balance, it's a matter of them being different kits.

NB is a kit with great burst damage from stealth.
Temp has more utility and it's very powerful against tank builds (on top of melting glasscannons quite effectively as well).
Dk is tanky
Sorc has... sorc things.

Different kits mate.

Knootewoot

ccmedaddy wrote: »

lol @ people thinking stealth detection will do s*it against sniper gankers

Yeah. Stealth detection goes i think up to 20 m. Snipe can hit for 35 m. You won't detect snipetards that quick.

Melee magblades however. You can totally nullify them.

Wing

Royaji wrote: »

Yep, and it has nothing to do with sets like Fury or Seventh Legion...

heavy armor and sets like fury were already nerfed, your like a year late on your complaints. sorry you cannot one shot everyone though, must be rough having to actually fight.

ArchMikem

I may also be a StamBlade that partakes in ganking, (that rarely goes well cause I'm PvE), but that dude's numbers are just gross.

And the unwarranted teabagging. Dude needs to stop.

TequilaFire

This is not typical of your average player though.
It is "amazing" how almost every hit causes health bars to drain completely so constantly at the same rate.
And he has 16K health in Cyro with that survivability, once again "amazing".
So one shouldn't call for nerfs based on this video.

generalmyrick

i have a similar build on a character stashed somewhere, i gotta go run this and do imp city tonight! thanks for the post!

MartiniDaniels

I loved moment when one pact guy was teabagging banana and then he was ganked by blues and teabagged too

Datthaw

Knootewoot wrote: »

ccmedaddy wrote: »

lol @ people thinking stealth detection will do s*it against sniper gankers

Yeah. Stealth detection goes i think up to 20 m. Snipe can hit for 35 m. You won't detect snipetards that quick.

Melee magblades however. You can totally nullify them.

Lol melee magnb is already dead