Reconsider the racial Stat bonus nerf.

Micah_Bayer

On pts, yes I have a max stamina build and max magicka build across two characters. I lost 4k magicka and stamina on both my builds. Why are you nerfing build diversity and pushing weapon and spell dmg builds solely?

Red_Feather

I heard it is normalizing dps because % increases are the problem.

Micah_Bayer

Red_Feather wrote: »

I heard it is normalizing dps because % increases are the problem.

Nobody used max Stat build for dps parsing to begin with.

Arrodisia

This also impacts sustain, which will further impact the dps numbers. Being a lower stat budget to pull from and all. SO many issues. Good night all

Cladius30

i heard its the best now

LuxLunae

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

On pts, yes I have a max stamina build and max magicka build across two characters. I lost 4k magicka and stamina on both my builds. Why are you nerfing build diversity and pushing weapon and spell dmg builds solely?

I feel sorry for you that you relied on max stam/ magica...

Some months ago I reached 52k stam...I played with it.. and realized it was trash... both in pvp and in pve...

I stacked stam recov and weapon damage and realized it was better...I dropped my stam to 30k...

You don't need mag or stam to be powerful... at the end of the day Mr.52 was just a dumb over stammed idiot.

Colecovision

My Khajiit Troll king build got hammered and I think that's the point. It took an arguably op set and made it even more op. Other people were doing the same with other percentages. Now it's controlled a bit.

Anyone care about my salty Khajiit troll king tears? I have a feeling there's zero sympathy and most will say good riddance.

CleymenZero

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Red_Feather wrote: »

I heard it is normalizing dps because % increases are the problem.

Nobody used max Stat build for dps parsing to begin with.

PvE yes but viable in pvp. You can burst harder with Draugr vs Bone Pirate. Less sustain, more damage. The modification of passives weakens Draugr and necro significantly if not compensated by other factors although stam stacking is more penalized than petsorc mag stacking now as pets will inherit your stats which will probably compensate for loss of max magicka.

ccmedaddy

Colecovision wrote: »

My Khajiit Troll king build got hammered and I think that's the point. It took an arguably op set and made it even more op. Other people were doing the same with other percentages. Now it's controlled a bit.

Anyone care about my salty Khajiit troll king tears? I have a feeling there's zero sympathy and most will say good riddance.

My Orc Stamplar feels your pain. But yeah this change probably needed to happen.

Vapirko

Hold on a second. Can you give us some context like race, live/PTS stats, CP level/noCP etc? So far I’ve see the results of two characters tested, both orcs who got the hardest max stat nerf. My toon at around 37.5k Stam lost only about 1.5k and another person at around 33.5k lost about 1.3k. How is it possibly that you lost 4K? How much stamina did you have?

Micah_Bayer

LuxLunae wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

On pts, yes I have a max stamina build and max magicka build across two characters. I lost 4k magicka and stamina on both my builds. Why are you nerfing build diversity and pushing weapon and spell dmg builds solely?

I feel sorry for you that you relied on max stam/ magica...

Some months ago I reached 52k stam...I played with it.. and realized it was trash... both in pvp and in pve...

I stacked stam recov and weapon damage and realized it was better...I dropped my stam to 30k...

You don't need mag or stam to be powerful... at the end of the day Mr.52 was just a dumb over stammed idiot.

1010 stam is equivalent to 100 weapon dmg so if it's trash, then you're wrong. And even if it was trash, that's still diversity.

Micah_Bayer

Vapirko wrote: »

Hold on a second. Can you give us some context like race, live/PTS stats, CP level/noCP etc? So far I’ve see the results of two characters tested, both orcs who got the hardest max stat nerf. My toon at around 37.5k Stam lost only about 1.5k and another person at around 33.5k lost about 1.3k. How is it possibly that you lost 4K? How much stamina did you have?

I had 48k stam

Micah_Bayer

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Hold on a second. Can you give us some context like race, live/PTS stats, CP level/noCP etc? So far I’ve see the results of two characters tested, both orcs who got the hardest max stat nerf. My toon at around 37.5k Stam lost only about 1.5k and another person at around 33.5k lost about 1.3k. How is it possibly that you lost 4K? How much stamina did you have?

I had 48k stam

Down to 44k in pts. Basically a 400 weapon dmg nerf for nothing

Krayl

Oh no you might have to do one extra mechanic during a stack and burn doing content with 44k dps that people did just fine back when 25k was high but you had to pay attention to mechanics.

As long as it's a level playing field, who cares? This game is too easy as it is.

Micah_Bayer

Krayl wrote: »

Oh no you might have to do one extra mechanic during a stack and burn doing content with 44k dps that people did just fine back when 25k was high but you had to pay attention to mechanics.

I am speaking from pvp not pve.

Krayl

still a level playing field, so not sure what the difference is.

nsmurfer

I think some people are upset that the playing field got leveled.

Vapirko

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Hold on a second. Can you give us some context like race, live/PTS stats, CP level/noCP etc? So far I’ve see the results of two characters tested, both orcs who got the hardest max stat nerf. My toon at around 37.5k Stam lost only about 1.5k and another person at around 33.5k lost about 1.3k. How is it possibly that you lost 4K? How much stamina did you have?

I had 48k stam

Down to 44k in pts. Basically a 400 weapon dmg nerf for nothing

Okay well I see your frustrating but as others have said the playing field is level and two, chooosing to have that much Stam is not at all necessary. Aside from just personal preference it probably doesn’t even make sense to have that much and I’m not sure how you got there but you’ve got to be sacrificing a lot of other stats. You don’t have to be less powerful now you just have to reworks your build a little the same as most other balance updates.

russelmmendoza

I just figured it out.
All the changes in eso dont matter to me.
I got all the changes.
I got all the nerfs.
And I'm still doing +30kdps on target dummies.

I'm just a scrub. Lols.

Vapirko

russelmmendoza wrote: »

I just figured it out.
All the changes in eso dont matter to me.
I got all the changes.
I got all the nerfs.
And I'm still doing +30kdps on target dummies.

I'm just a scrub. Lols.

That’s because the changes aren’t as severe as people make them out to be. Tool tips are largely the same for most.

Micah_Bayer

Vapirko wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Hold on a second. Can you give us some context like race, live/PTS stats, CP level/noCP etc? So far I’ve see the results of two characters tested, both orcs who got the hardest max stat nerf. My toon at around 37.5k Stam lost only about 1.5k and another person at around 33.5k lost about 1.3k. How is it possibly that you lost 4K? How much stamina did you have?

I had 48k stam

Down to 44k in pts. Basically a 400 weapon dmg nerf for nothing

Okay well I see your frustrating but as others have said the playing field is level and two, chooosing to have that much Stam is not at all necessary. Aside from just personal preference it probably doesn’t even make sense to have that much and I’m not sure how you got there but you’ve got to be sacrificing a lot of other stats. You don’t have to be less powerful now you just have to reworks your build a little the same as most other balance updates.

I don't know what I was sacrificing, I had 1900 regen and 24k health in pvp. All tri glyphs so I had 13k magicka.