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RIP..... HIGH DPS
Crom_CCCXVI
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In the past few years I've watched just about every high DPS PvP toon take a beating from nerfs. Now as your Max Magika, Stam drops from 40k+ into the mid 30's with the new racial passives, we will be sinking to a new low. I imagine PvP will be big groups of high regen defense builds and anyone trying to get a solo kill will be doomed..
Is this really what people wanted? a game where it takes a group to kill someone?
Edited by Crom_CCCXVI on January 22, 2019 10:41PM Is this really what people wanted? a game where it takes a group to kill someone?
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✭✭What are you even talking about? There are people posting 50+k parses in the PTS section right now lol16 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You are losing like 2K max magic at most on a PVP build. If your base was 40k, under the old system you would have 44 with a 10% boost, and now you have 42K with one of the bigger 2k flat boosts. Most people have base magic less than that so the gap is even smaller.
Your argument doesnt really make a lot of sense. On live, if you build to tank, you can tank multiple people. If you build to be a glass cannon, you are going to get wrecked if you are outnumbered in the slightest. How is this really going to change?2 -
Zathras✭✭✭✭✭I think your histrionics are obscuring your vision, if you think someone who parsed in the 40K+ range will then be in the mid 30s with the forthcoming racial change.
read: racial passives are nice, but not that game changing. They certainly aren't going to be the harbinger of the end to high DPS classes.Edited by Zathras on January 22, 2019 10:52PMFor a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. - Douglas Adams
It is a rare mind indeed that can render the hitherto non-existent blindingly obvious. The cry 'I could have thought of that' is a very popular and misleading one, for the fact is that they didn't, and a very significant and revealing fact it is too. - Douglas Adams2 -
Ohhgrizyyy✭✭✭✭What are you even talking about? There are people posting 50+k parses in the PTS section right now lol
He said PvP.Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750
Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP
All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao
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El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Wait, people care about nickel-and-dime DPS changes in PVP? What's next. demanding DPS tests once you port into Cyrodiil?4 -
Krayl✭✭✭✭✭*edit* i see this is pvp related where it hits everyone equally. Total non factor.Edited by Krayl on January 22, 2019 11:12PM1 -
TheDarkoil✭✭✭Not even that I'd say. Magicka percentage bonuses for me as a high elf Sorc are 10% racial, 5% inner light, 8% bound aegis, 6% undaunted passive, 4% mages guild passive = 33%. My mag with food buff is about 43k.
43/133 = 0.32
0.32x100 = 32k base magicka.
10% of that is 3.2k so it looks like I will lose 1.2k
HOWEVER!
The base 2k we get now will be affected by the other 23% increases I have so say 2.5k. I may lose 700 magicka but gain 258 unbuffed spell damage.0 -
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its the DW nerf, it does not affect racials directly. Yes Khajit can now go magic.xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »max 2k dps loss id say...so what doom?
But yes survival is just as important
Or just respec your khajiit or dunmer over to the new meta.oh no now we wont be able to hit 55k DPS on the same exact content people were clearing when 25K was considered high whatever will we do??!? Maybe just learn mechanics instead of burning everything I guess. Oh, no we'll still be able to stack and burn with 50k DPS.
This is an buff for AD and EP.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭Facefister wrote: »Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
Noone gives a flying fudge about PvP.
You'd be wrong there. A lot of us care about the state of PVP.
As to the OP, we already have unkillable players that can't be dropped solo now. You can watch them nightly in Cyrodiil charging right into the fray taking an ungodly beating. Now are they killing anyone? Not many, but they are juggernauts and do a fine job of breaking the front lines.2 -
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✭✭LOL
The difference is barely going to be noticeable. This is not going to revert pvp to a tank meta. Chill.EP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job0 -
russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nerf everything to oblivion.
The daedric prince/s of zenimax demands you to suffer.
Never ever have fun again.
Seriously.
Zenimax is taking a lot of fun out of my beloved game.
ESO FOR LIFE.
OR
ESO FOR NO LIFE.1 -
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✭Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
Should have posted this in the many pvp related sections then.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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✭✭✭✭✭Max mag/stam isn't losing that much. Even builds that rely mostly on max mag like petsorc are still doing well. My own petsorc still has 51.1k mag on PTS and I'm fine with that.PC-NA Goat0 -
Flipityflu✭✭✭RIP this RIP that.
I would say 'gez, haven't you played a MMORPG before since these changes happen'
but then i would have to say to myself 'haven't you played a MMORPG before and heard the sky is falling from forum users because changes happen'
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LuxLunae✭✭✭✭✭Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »In the past few years I've watched just about every high DPS PvP toon take a beating from nerfs. Now as your Max Magika, Stam drops from 40k+ into the mid 30's with the new racial passives, we will be sinking to a new low. I imagine PvP will be big groups of high regen defense builds and anyone trying to get a solo kill will be doomed..
Is this really what people wanted? a game where it takes a group to kill someone?
You are obviously looking at the numbers and not the actual yields...
go stack weapon and/or spell damage to cover the difference in stam/magika...
I am a templar and yes ....I know power of the light gets stronger with stam...but I am not dumb... I decided like 2 months ago to reduce my stam from 52k down to 30k...The stam meant poop in pvp...
Stam recov...weapon damage that was my cake...1 -
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@zaria Khajiit NB tank...im not complaining
cuz its just a buff for me...yes the new way glyphs work on weapons its gona be bad on dps but honestly...this its how enchants on 1handers should had been from day 1 and I always wondered why its not like this...it makes no sense to have the same potency as 2handers...now only thing left for them to do its the same thing regarding weapons flat damage on 1handers compared to the 2 handers since its not logic to have a dagger deal the same amount of damage as a 2handed maul...let aside 1 handed weapons damage shouldn't be the same for all cuz im pretty sure a dagger shouldn't hit as hard as a mace or axe and same should apply to 2handers...but this could use more working on...still 1handers shouldn't be = to 2handers in terms of damage. 0
