Iskiab's PVP NB Healer Guide

Iskiab

P.S. - they just did a pass on pvp gear from the patch notes but I think they were too timid in their changes. They should have just changed all the pvp sets with 5% bonus' to 10% so people would use them.

thedude33

Koensol wrote: »

Nice to see more nb healer enthusiasts. I love to read all the different builds people post here. I am surprised to see many nb healers opt for the invisibility cloak though, when dark cloak is the best self healing you could ask for on a decently high health build.

In my opinion, the two best things about a nb healer apart from the good ultimates is the strong and free of cost burst heal and the insane mitigation tools the class offers to you. I think these two things synergize perfectly, because healthy offering costs health, I think you should build in order to be able to spam it to 8 stacks (if needed) without dying. That is where you will outshine a templar or warden who would run out of resources trying to keep a teammate alive through focus fire and zaan procs.

If I were you (again this is my opinion) I would remorph cloak to dark cloak and start using vitality + lingering health potions with SnB backbar. The combination is insane while you get focussed and you can get up to 4k ticks. Combine this with SnB heavy attack with siphoning strikes up and you can get a 4k heal from that as well. Then throw in some Introspection and you will be very hard to kill. I would also remorph shades to dark shades. It does a 'spin to win' AoE attack every couple seconds, which applies minor maim to all enemies hit for 4 seconds. A great nb support tool with high ultime. Then I would also consider mirage. 25% AoE dmg reduction is too good to pass up and it is another unique mitigation tool from the nb class and helps tremendously with surviving ult burst.

Finally for BG I think healing orbs is superior to springs by far. It gives valuable resources to your group and continues to heal (for a lot) while you are free to use resto heavies to buff all your running hots. Springs spam is more a cyrodiil thing.

Last but not least, I think Bogdan the Nightflame is the best healing set for BG's by miiiles. It literally procs on cooldown every 6 seconds and it is always on my nr. 1 spot for healing done in BG's. You've got single target burst healing covered with offering, making chokethorn redundant imo. Bogdan provides the best overall group healing of all healer sets, even outshining earthgore because of the high uptime (Earthgore is better for cyrodiil though). And I cant count the amount of times it saved my life. Bogdan proc, heavy attack + darkcloak into introspection and you will be from 10% to 100% in a second.

Finally leveled up my Healing Orbs ... not impressed tbh. Played about 10 BG matches. The heal was very underwhelming.

Moonsorrow

Koensol wrote: »

Nice to see more nb healer enthusiasts. I love to read all the different builds people post here. I am surprised to see many nb healers opt for the invisibility cloak though, when dark cloak is the best self healing you could ask for on a decently high health build.

In my opinion, the two best things about a nb healer apart from the good ultimates is the strong and free of cost burst heal and the insane mitigation tools the class offers to you. I think these two things synergize perfectly, because healthy offering costs health, I think you should build in order to be able to spam it to 8 stacks (if needed) without dying. That is where you will outshine a templar or warden who would run out of resources trying to keep a teammate alive through focus fire and zaan procs.

If I were you (again this is my opinion) I would remorph cloak to dark cloak and start using vitality + lingering health potions with SnB backbar. The combination is insane while you get focussed and you can get up to 4k ticks. Combine this with SnB heavy attack with siphoning strikes up and you can get a 4k heal from that as well. Then throw in some Introspection and you will be very hard to kill. I would also remorph shades to dark shades. It does a 'spin to win' AoE attack every couple seconds, which applies minor maim to all enemies hit for 4 seconds. A great nb support tool with high ultime. Then I would also consider mirage. 25% AoE dmg reduction is too good to pass up and it is another unique mitigation tool from the nb class and helps tremendously with surviving ult burst.

Finally for BG I think healing orbs is superior to springs by far. It gives valuable resources to your group and continues to heal (for a lot) while you are free to use resto heavies to buff all your running hots. Springs spam is more a cyrodiil thing.

Last but not least, I think Bogdan the Nightflame is the best healing set for BG's by miiiles. It literally procs on cooldown every 6 seconds and it is always on my nr. 1 spot for healing done in BG's. You've got single target burst healing covered with offering, making chokethorn redundant imo. Bogdan provides the best overall group healing of all healer sets, even outshining earthgore because of the high uptime (Earthgore is better for cyrodiil though). And I cant count the amount of times it saved my life. Bogdan proc, heavy attack + darkcloak into introspection and you will be from 10% to 100% in a second.

Agreed on this fully from own experience also.

Koensol

thedude33 wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

Nice to see more nb healer enthusiasts. I love to read all the different builds people post here. I am surprised to see many nb healers opt for the invisibility cloak though, when dark cloak is the best self healing you could ask for on a decently high health build.

In my opinion, the two best things about a nb healer apart from the good ultimates is the strong and free of cost burst heal and the insane mitigation tools the class offers to you. I think these two things synergize perfectly, because healthy offering costs health, I think you should build in order to be able to spam it to 8 stacks (if needed) without dying. That is where you will outshine a templar or warden who would run out of resources trying to keep a teammate alive through focus fire and zaan procs.

If I were you (again this is my opinion) I would remorph cloak to dark cloak and start using vitality + lingering health potions with SnB backbar. The combination is insane while you get focussed and you can get up to 4k ticks. Combine this with SnB heavy attack with siphoning strikes up and you can get a 4k heal from that as well. Then throw in some Introspection and you will be very hard to kill. I would also remorph shades to dark shades. It does a 'spin to win' AoE attack every couple seconds, which applies minor maim to all enemies hit for 4 seconds. A great nb support tool with high ultime. Then I would also consider mirage. 25% AoE dmg reduction is too good to pass up and it is another unique mitigation tool from the nb class and helps tremendously with surviving ult burst.

Finally for BG I think healing orbs is superior to springs by far. It gives valuable resources to your group and continues to heal (for a lot) while you are free to use resto heavies to buff all your running hots. Springs spam is more a cyrodiil thing.

Last but not least, I think Bogdan the Nightflame is the best healing set for BG's by miiiles. It literally procs on cooldown every 6 seconds and it is always on my nr. 1 spot for healing done in BG's. You've got single target burst healing covered with offering, making chokethorn redundant imo. Bogdan provides the best overall group healing of all healer sets, even outshining earthgore because of the high uptime (Earthgore is better for cyrodiil though). And I cant count the amount of times it saved my life. Bogdan proc, heavy attack + darkcloak into introspection and you will be from 10% to 100% in a second.

Finally leveled up my Healing Orbs ... not impressed tbh. Played about 10 BG matches. The heal was very underwhelming.

Well, not sure what your stats and healing multipliers are, but for me it's doing a very good job. Remember this when considering orbs:
- You can stack multiple orbs on top of each other and in different directions. The heal is every 0.5 seconds, so when stacked with other orbs and your other hots you actually have a lot of healing going with a very high frequency. All good for proccing bogdan, even while you might be cc'ed.
- After you cast the orbs, you can do other things while it heals. Use resto heavy to get major mending, use other heals, rebuff, apply cc, etc.
- It is not just a heal, but amazing group utility that restores valuable resources. A no-brainer for no cp in my view.

I understand there are other playstyles, like you can see from Exeeter's posts. And if orbs doesn't work for you and you prefer other skills, that is completely fine. I am just sharing what I think to be most effective for BGs from what I have tested and tried. In my viewn, actively spamming healing springs just doesn't fit into the picture of BGs, where your team can get bursted in seconds if you are not careful. It leaves you too open and passive.

Iskiab

I think I'm going to rewrite the guide anyways, there's been a ton of amazing suggestions and my current build is a lot different then the one in the OP. I don't have editing privileges to change the OP.

These days I've been playing with mark target (Piercing Mark) for the magicka resist debuff plus 50% full heal when the target dies, the other morph might be better. I've also been testing the black rose prison ice staff on my back bar with crushing shock.

Right now my loadout looks like:

5 - Heavy fortified Brass
5 - Transmutation front bar, 3 transmutation and black rose price ice staff back bar
2 - Bogdan

or

5 - Heavy Fortified Brass
5 - Bright throat
2 - Bogdan

Main hand resto:
1 - Shrewd Offering, 2 - Healing Springs, 3 - Combat Prayer, 4 - Refreshing Path, 5 - Cleanse, Ult - Soul Siphon

Back bar ice staff
2 - Mass Hysteria, 2 - Ice Blockade, 3 - Concealed Weapon, 4 - Piercing Mark (with bright throat)/Crushing Shock (with trans), 5 - Shadowy Disguise, Ult - Precognition

I'm finding I'm getting focused a lot more in BGs, if there was a set that provides more mitigation then heavy fortified brass I'd wear it.

Iskiab

Oh about springs, decided it's better than mutagen. PvP is really bursty and the hot values are too low to be effective. Healing springs is also your best self heal (besides piercing mark). Mana cost for using springs on just yourself is irrelevant because of the great NB healing sustain.

SpiderCultist

I don't want to offend you but if this is what we (magblades) became this last patch (healers), I might uninstall again and come back in June.

what a **** of a class

WAKE UP ZOS!

Iskiab

I've seen a good gank magblade, a good two hander melee magblade and a good magblade tank (somehow he got 62k health, I have no idea how). There are options, but the typical ranged magblade build isn't very good imo. The classes I like seeing in battlegrounds are DKs and Wardens. Still there are options out there as a nightblade.

Iskiab

Err tank isn't a magblade, I just mean nightblade.

exeeter702

SpiderCultist wrote: »

I don't want to offend you but if this is what we (magblades) became this last patch (healers), I might uninstall again and come back in June.

what a **** of a class

WAKE UP ZOS!

1. NB healers have been a thing since this games launch. And over the past year and a half have become much stronger, culminating in possessing the strongest burst heal in the game.

2. NB healers more than any other NB spec, were hit hardest with nerfs, with nb tanks a close second.

3. Offensive magblade =/= NB healer

4. Magblade damage dealers are not so terrible that you are forced to play your magblade as a healer to be viable.

Make a thread regarding your issues with magblade dps or pvp as that subject has little to do with this thread.

NightAngel690

I personally use heavy seducers and stendarr’s in bgs(it’s all about the dots) with earthgore or Bogdan. Both are pretty good heal sets so long as your group actually stays close. For those groups where they do their own thing, I just use chokethorn.