Are nightblades OP? (stam)

KhajiitFelix

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Leeched

Other

Stamblade=/=Magblade

KhajiitFelix

Yes

Rilis wrote: »

Stamblade=/=Magblade

Changed that for you.

gepe87

Yes

Not too much OP but some changes like major fracture from S.Attack and Major Defile from IncapStrike would balance a bit. Maybe change them to Minor to avoid crybabies.

Khivas_Carrick

No

Not really? Maybe? For PvE they're pretty damn good, but not superbly better than most (except the noted strugglers), but idk about PvP

SaintSubwayy

Yes

PVE DPS Yes

but you didnt clarify te Content, so you can expect very different answers / results.

KhajiitFelix

Yes

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Not really? Maybe? For PvE they're pretty damn good, but not superbly better than most (except the noted strugglers), but idk about PvP

Actually in situations where ALL you need is dps burst stamblade would be #1. Well in pvp nbs are op Imo.

Odovacar

Yes

My personal opinion is that they're pretty strong, but that depends on whos driving them too.

KhajiitFelix

Yes

Odovacar wrote: »

My personal opinion is that they're pretty strong, but that depends on whos driving them too.

That is correct. There are some nbs that are very bad but in hands of a professional player nb is the strongest class for both pve and pvp.
That would explain why in serious runs people mostly pick nightblades (usually mag because they can attack at range)

Ragnaroek93

No

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Not really? Maybe? For PvE they're pretty damn good, but not superbly better than most (except the noted strugglers), but idk about PvP

Actually in situations where ALL you need is dps burst stamblade would be #1. Well in pvp nbs are op Imo.

Actually in situations where ALL you need is healing magden and magplar would be...

KhajiitFelix

Yes

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Not really? Maybe? For PvE they're pretty damn good, but not superbly better than most (except the noted strugglers), but idk about PvP

Actually in situations where ALL you need is dps burst stamblade would be #1. Well in pvp nbs are op Imo.

Actually in situations where ALL you need is healing magden and magplar would be...

ok

Kadoin

No

If you mean PvP, no. If not for cloak having an i-frame and break free being spotty, stam NBs wouldn't be half as great as the forums claim they are.

StarOfElyon

Without a means to decloak them they are OP. The ones who sneak attack, cloak, sneak attack, cloak, etc. are pretty hard to deal with unless you have countermeasures.

NyassaV

Other

Learning towards yes but there are other things that can do well do so I wouldn't just point at stamblade. Magblade is donkey crap right now though when it comes to PvP

susniand

Yes

If they adjust incap - increase cost and tone down defile on it and fix fear so you can break free immidiately, Nbs will be in good place.

Crixus8000

No

They are very good yes, but I don't think they are op. I just think some other classes could really do with some changes to make them better/more balanced.

kathandira

Only thing that I feel needs to be tamed is being able to go invisible at will. Being able to take 0 damage and move to a new position is a little overpowered in PvP.

Perhaps a Cooldown is in order.

Or make the base skill more like the Dark Cloak morph, but much stronger, and allow the Morph to further increase the damage reduction. Making someone untargetable is a little crazy.

Moonsorrow

Other

Poll is not that well made with options..

NB as a class is not "op", it is strong with lots of variety on builds (for pvp). Nightblade is a class that a good player can get a lot of fun and efficiency out of, potatos do not get carried by it though, so it is not a "carry class" like some say. For cyrodiil nb has Cloak, a tool to escape zergs so it makes it often more fun that other choices already because of that.

Magblade currenty on competitive scene if can say so is a mid tier strong, depends on opponents and goals, of course strong on Caluurion ganking style, traditional bombing and so on, fun to play but has to often pull back from fights, where if you were a tanky stam, say a stamden or stamblade, you could just steamroll the same opponent.

Stamblade is top tier, a ninja of sorts, can hit and burst like a boss, reset fights at will, can make deadly brawler, bleeds, highest damage potential, can be the infamous archer that snipes people who are riding happily to keeps, "riveting gameplay" star at battlegrounds.

Fun to play. Class that still has flavor and not yet lost many things to nerfs like other classes, please keep it that way and make other classes have their original strenghts back also instead of the nerf cycle.

valusthecateater

No

Mine's not. I cannot figure out how to make him OP

eso_nya

Other

in the hand of a decent player ever class looks op. in the hands of a noob (not newb!) every class is underperforming.

Dojohoda

No

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technohic

Other

Other because I think having cloak and what makes a NB powerful needs to be there and make NBs, NBs. Cloak should not be an escape + supress DOTs + garauntee crit with so few drawbacks. If it is to supress DOTs which I think it should, it should supress HOTs. If it is to give them a crit gauranteed when attacking from stealth, it should be a gauranteed crit on them if you hit them in stealth. Really needs to keep cloak useful but not the all source of power it is now. Then when it is not, they can buff the magicka version of concealed weapon as it feels pretty weak and mag NB lacks a decent heal now with the resto shield nerf and their mobility is nullified by magicka classes not having good options for root/snare immunity; but we are talking about stam here and they would be fine to get some risk on cloak.

Didgerion

Yes

They are OP because they can fully spec into damage and a little bit into magica recovery and they can 3 shot every light or medium armor build and they can go away with it alive.
All in one skills they have help them build for it too.

MalcolM24

how about buffing other classes instead of nerfing nb

KhajiitFelix

Yes

MalcolM24 wrote: »

how about buffing other classes instead of nerfing nb

How original.

Juhasow

Other

MalcolM24 wrote: »

how about buffing other classes instead of nerfing nb

It's easy to say "just buff verything else" problem is it's way harder to actually do and keep it balanced. The more strenghts something is getting the more ways of exploiting that strenghts is created and it's getting harder to control all that things so at some point things getting out of control as we've seen many times. Also if You think that all other classes needs a buff to compete with nightblade that pretty much means You say nightblade is stronger then others.

Donny_Vito

Yes

For PvE - yes.

Look at leaderboards and you'll see Nightblades as the majority of the roles in the top spots for DPS. Whether it's Stam or Mag it's unknown, but it's a serious problem when Nightblades are the majority class (if not all) in top trial runs.

Juhasow

Other

Overpowered ? No.
Outperforming ? Yes.

Murador178

No

This poll doesnt say anything as long as u dont link it to a special topic. Where is nightblade OP? Solo PvP? Trials? Battlegrounds? Nighblade is for sure a great choice for solo/duo PvP - like sorc- , but for group PvP or battlegrounds u probably prefer to take another class.

KhajiitFelix

Yes

Murador178 wrote: »

This poll doesnt say anything as long as u dont link it to a special topic. Where is nightblade OP? Solo PvP? Trials? Battlegrounds? Nighblade is for sure a great choice for solo/duo PvP - like sorc- , but for group PvP or battlegrounds u probably prefer to take another class.

Nb is top tier in everything

Juhasow

Other

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Murador178 wrote: »

This poll doesnt say anything as long as u dont link it to a special topic. Where is nightblade OP? Solo PvP? Trials? Battlegrounds? Nighblade is for sure a great choice for solo/duo PvP - like sorc- , but for group PvP or battlegrounds u probably prefer to take another class.

Nb is top tier in everything

Especially in tanking or healing