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Game needs Gun-crafting if it has spell-crafting
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Just like title said, if game adds spell-crafting system it will bring magicka players to next level therefore let stamina players craft guns too. Bow will become lame if your enemy can craft spells, and need more accurate sniping tools, advance of civilization.
History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.
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Oberstein✭✭✭Dracan_Fontom wrote: »This is the single most ridiculous thing I've read today.
Crafting guns is easy compared to spell crafting, how is this ridiculous? when you can craft SPELLS?History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.1 -
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✭No guns. Unless, hmmmmmmmmm, return of the Dwemer? I mean they didn't die off they just vanished, so have them come back from where ever they went and bring their updated tech with them.The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso0 -
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Dracan_Fontom✭✭✭✭✭Dracan_Fontom wrote: »This is the single most ridiculous thing I've read today.
Crafting guns is easy compared to spell crafting, how is this ridiculous? when you can craft SPELLS?
Considering in lore of the Elder Scrolls, probably the most advanced weaponry in the universe is the crossbow. I'm not even sure if there has been any mention of prototype guns at all let alone functioning gun powder.
What you're asking is to literally undo lore for something that otherwise doesn't exist.Edited by Dracan_Fontom on January 10, 2019 5:44PM6 -
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✭Just like title said, if game adds spell-crafting system it will bring magicka players to next level therefore let stamina players craft guns too. Bow will become lame if your enemy can craft spells, and need more accurate sniping tools, advance of civilization.
This is going off the assumption that Spell Crafting will be something like a new Weapon Skill Line.
Have you considered that Spell Crafting will benefit both Magicka and Stamina players?
What if Spell Crafting was a way to further Morph skills? What if it only affected Class Skills?
There are many possibilities of what they can do with it, none of which we have any idea of how they are going to do it. So for now, it is safest to sit back, relax, and wait for information to be released.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc0 -
Oberstein✭✭✭Dracan_Fontom wrote: »Dracan_Fontom wrote: »This is the single most ridiculous thing I've read today.
Crafting guns is easy compared to spell crafting, how is this ridiculous? when you can craft SPELLS?
Considering in lore of the Elder Scrolls, probably the most advanced weaponry in the universe is the crossbow. I'm not even sure if there has been any mention of prototype guns at all let alone functioning gun power.
What you're asking is to literally undo lore for something that otherwise doesn't exist.
So we can create new lore along with spell crafting, What you talking about is humans used sharpened stone as weapons according to real life lore therefore advanced weapons shouldn't be exist.
Well humans in ESO used their brain and invented gunpowder and starts crafting guns very simpleEdited by Oberstein on January 10, 2019 5:48PMHistory, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.0 -
Dracan_Fontom✭✭✭✭✭Dracan_Fontom wrote: »Dracan_Fontom wrote: »This is the single most ridiculous thing I've read today.
Crafting guns is easy compared to spell crafting, how is this ridiculous? when you can craft SPELLS?
Considering in lore of the Elder Scrolls, probably the most advanced weaponry in the universe is the crossbow. I'm not even sure if there has been any mention of prototype guns at all let alone functioning gun power.
What you're asking is to literally undo lore for something that otherwise doesn't exist.
So we can create new lore along with spell crafting
That's not how it works. World Building is essential in fantasy. You simply can't just add something in for the sake of it. It break continuity.1 -
Romo✭✭✭✭To all the nay sayers:
We already have holsters... just give us the guns for them.
(and you thought they were hip flaps... silly you.)1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There are cannons mentioned in jokes in Daggerfall and in one of the Legends art cards. Other than that, I think the only explosive we see are the satchels we use in Tribunal and the kindlepitch in ESO.
So no sniper rifles, so far.Edited by VaranisArano on January 10, 2019 5:56PM0 -
AlboMalefica✭✭✭✭I was under the impression that spell crafting would offer both Stam & magic morphs etc. Would be really ridiculous if it was just for magicka abilitiesEdited by AlboMalefica on January 10, 2019 5:57PM0 -
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✭✭✭Dracan_Fontom wrote: »Dracan_Fontom wrote: »This is the single most ridiculous thing I've read today.
Crafting guns is easy compared to spell crafting, how is this ridiculous? when you can craft SPELLS?
Considering in lore of the Elder Scrolls, probably the most advanced weaponry in the universe is the crossbow. I'm not even sure if there has been any mention of prototype guns at all let alone functioning gun powder.
What you're asking is to literally undo lore for something that otherwise doesn't exist.
Fire salts seem to be closest we got to gunpowder even though guns are a hell no0 -
Oberstein✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »There are cannons mentioned in jokes in Daggerfall and in one of the Legends art cards. Other than that, I think the only explosive we see are the satchels we use in Tribunal and the kindlepitch in ESO.
So no sniper rifles, so far.
human races in ESO can invent that meanwhile elfs worshipping their magic and created spell-crafting.History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.0 -
Dracan_Fontom✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »There are cannons mentioned in jokes in Daggerfall and in one of the Legends art cards. Other than that, I think the only explosive we see are the satchels we use in Tribunal and the kindlepitch in ESO.
So no sniper rifles, so far.
human races in ESO can invent that meanwhile elfs worshipping their magic and created spell-crafting.
Again that is not how it works. Lore is already established and set. You can't add something like this into the game when in continuity it takes place 1000 years before Skyrim which also didn't have guns3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »There are cannons mentioned in jokes in Daggerfall and in one of the Legends art cards. Other than that, I think the only explosive we see are the satchels we use in Tribunal and the kindlepitch in ESO.
So no sniper rifles, so far.
human races in ESO can invent that meanwhile elfs worshipping their magic and created spell-crafting.
And then spellcrafting survives until the 3rd era at least, while guncrafting practically dies out except for rare cannons that only get mentioned?
That'll be interesting. And not likely to happen.0 -
Oberstein✭✭✭Dracan_Fontom wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »There are cannons mentioned in jokes in Daggerfall and in one of the Legends art cards. Other than that, I think the only explosive we see are the satchels we use in Tribunal and the kindlepitch in ESO.
So no sniper rifles, so far.
human races in ESO can invent that meanwhile elfs worshipping their magic and created spell-crafting.
Again that is not how it works. Lore is already established and set. You can't add something like this into the game when in continuity it takes place 1000 years before Skyrim which also didn't have guns
Aren't we going to time travel in new chapter where war between 3 banners is ceased.History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.0 -
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✭Swordsinging could be a stamina alternative, although it would be hard to explain bringing back the lost art lorewise for awhile though.
Either way, in some of the more recent (post-2014, anyway) datamines it showed things like "twohanded" and "heavyarmor" things in the datamines, so it seems like Stamina wouldn't be left out in the iteration of spellcrafting that would come to be, if it ever does. Likely due to the fact that focusing on one attribute has become the only viable option ever since 2014 when that video showcasing Spellcrafting was done, and releasing it without anything for Stamina would exclude a lot of players.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Swordsinging could be a stamina alternative, although it would be hard to explain bringing back the lost art lorewise for awhile though.
Either way, in some of the more recent (post-2014, anyway) datamines it showed things like "twohanded" and "heavyarmor" things in the datamines, so it seems like Stamina wouldn't be left out in the iteration of spellcrafting that would come to be, if it ever does. Likely due to the fact that focusing on one attribute has become the only viable option ever since 2014 when that video showcasing Spellcrafting was done, and releasing it without anything for Stamina would exclude a lot of players.
Sword singer would be awesome.
I mean, we're already going to let players be better necromancers than Mannimarco, why not let us beat Sai Sahan too?
/sarcasm
It would be cool, but as you say, a lost art.1 -
Oberstein✭✭✭History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.0
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✭Just like title said, if game adds spell-crafting system it will bring magicka players to next level therefore let stamina players craft guns too. Bow will become lame if your enemy can craft spells, and need more accurate sniping tools, advance of civilization.
Spell:
noun
a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation:
Since people dont understand english: There is nothing about the source of a "spell". There is nothing about where it draws its power from. Why do you people insist on thinking spells are magicka? what do you think Rally is? What do you think Balance is? Neither of those spells use magicka as the source...one uses stamina, one uses health...both are spells
I personally would love to see health become a resource for casting spells...blood mage would be fun to play and take quite a bit of skill to do successfully.1 -
Oberstein✭✭✭Just like title said, if game adds spell-crafting system it will bring magicka players to next level therefore let stamina players craft guns too. Bow will become lame if your enemy can craft spells, and need more accurate sniping tools, advance of civilization.
Spell:
noun
a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation:
Since people dont understand english: There is nothing about the source of a "spell". There is nothing about where it draws its power from. Why do you people insist on thinking spells are magicka? what do you think Rally is? What do you think Balance is? Neither of those spells use magicka as the source...one uses stamina, one uses health...both are spells
I personally would love to see health become a resource for casting spells...blood mage would be fun to play and take quite a bit of skill to do successfully.
Good to knowTequilaFire wrote: »You think they complain about snipe!
Hope they won't since they can craft spells.
And bullet of this sniper can penetrate any magicka defense with some magicka enchance
Edited by Oberstein on January 10, 2019 6:24PMHistory, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.0
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