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Reduced Lightning Staff drops?
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Did Zos reduce the drop chance of lightning staffs recently? I've been farming for about 4 different lightning staves recently, and not one of us has gotten a single drop (unless someone is keeping it and not telling me, more power to them). Siroria, Olorime, BSW, Sanctuary...none of them have been dropping for months now. Is it just me? Did I *** off the rngeezus?
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Agreed. Farm with the opposite attribute of what you are looking for (seriously).
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✭✭Hmmm. I'll try that. Thanks guys!PC/Xbox NA
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✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".1 -
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Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
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Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
Rng is rng. Your comment is purely anecdotal, as opposed to random being factually R from RNG.
There's something about this subject is psychology. You tend to see the bad a lot more than the good. You'll notice all the weapons you don't need coming on drops until you get the one you need, and it'll feel like your chances are bad. Then, in an opposite situation, if you wanted another drop, you would think lighting staff as trash and not ever notice that was the weapon you once looked for and claimed never came. But your second-search weapon WAS part of the trash from when you ran for your staff, you just didn't notice and dismissed as trash.
It's quite annoying how we are flawed as humnas to only see things in our biased pessimistic ways, but I promise you, the odds are the same. You just feel like they aren't.
Also, Murphy's law isn't a joke, is just an allegorical representation of this perceived loss mixed in frustration for "it always happens to me".
You're not alone, you're not unique, and you're not looking for the hardest weapon to get. Keep farming.0 -
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Rng is rng. Your comment is purely anecdotal, as opposed to random being factually R from RNG.
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
There's something about this subject is psychology. You tend to see the bad a lot more than the good. You'll notice all the weapons you don't need coming on drops until you get the one you need, and it'll feel like your chances are bad. Then, in an opposite situation, if you wanted another drop, you would think lighting staff as trash and not ever notice that was the weapon you once looked for and claimed never came. But your second-search weapon WAS part of the trash from when you ran for your staff, you just didn't notice and dismissed as trash.
It's quite annoying how we are flawed as humnas to only see things in our biased pessimistic ways, but I promise you, the odds are the same. You just feel like they aren't.
Also, Murphy's law isn't a joke, is just an allegorical representation of this perceived loss mixed in frustration for "it always happens to me".
You're not alone, you're not unique, and you're not looking for the hardest weapon to get. Keep farming.
So in short, you have no proof that the gear drop is *not* weighted ...
If you spend some time looking around the game you will realize that ZOS does *not* use pure RNG anywhere, it's always weighted in one way or another.
What exactly makes you think that isn't also the case for gear drops?
PS: My "anecdotal" evidence over 5 years of playing this game is still better than your uninformed copy & paste from your psychology textbook.
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Edited by gepe87 on January 10, 2019 7:19PMGepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
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Rng is rng. Your comment is purely anecdotal, as opposed to random being factually R from RNG.
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
There's something about this subject is psychology. You tend to see the bad a lot more than the good. You'll notice all the weapons you don't need coming on drops until you get the one you need, and it'll feel like your chances are bad. Then, in an opposite situation, if you wanted another drop, you would think lighting staff as trash and not ever notice that was the weapon you once looked for and claimed never came. But your second-search weapon WAS part of the trash from when you ran for your staff, you just didn't notice and dismissed as trash.
It's quite annoying how we are flawed as humnas to only see things in our biased pessimistic ways, but I promise you, the odds are the same. You just feel like they aren't.
Also, Murphy's law isn't a joke, is just an allegorical representation of this perceived loss mixed in frustration for "it always happens to me".
You're not alone, you're not unique, and you're not looking for the hardest weapon to get. Keep farming.
So in short, you have no proof that the gear drop is *not* weighted ...
If you spend some time looking around the game you will realize that ZOS does *not* use pure RNG anywhere, it's always weighted in one way or another.
What exactly makes you think that isn't also the case for gear drops?
PS: My "anecdotal" evidence over 5 years of playing this game is still better than your uninformed copy & paste from your psychology textbook.
Truth be said, I dont know the odds for items in particular and they do weigh them all based on something and you have a point there, but I do know they let us know when odds change and they haven't, at this time.
Having 5 years experience is still anecdotal "proof", mind you. You could have 5 million years experience and if it's just you, it's still anecdotal. Keep that in mind.
And thanks for keeping this convo relatively civilized. And I don't have a psychology textbook, I just read a lot.0 -
AlboMalefica✭✭✭✭I’ve always found that if you mention in game what you’re looking for then it becomes that much harder to acquire. Don’t mention it, only think of it and the game won’t know 😂0
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✭You must sacrifice your first born to the RNG god. If you do not have a first born then you are out of luck. Sorry.Edited by Kuramas9tails on January 10, 2019 7:26PMYour friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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AD High Elf Mageblade DPS (General)(Former Empress) -- Stormproof/VMOL, VHOF, VDSA completion
AD Khajiit Mageblade DPS -- Flawless Conquerer
FOR THE QUEEN!
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Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
Rng is rng. Your comment is purely anecdotal, as opposed to random being factually R from RNG.
There's something about this subject is psychology. You tend to see the bad a lot more than the good. You'll notice all the weapons you don't need coming on drops until you get the one you need, and it'll feel like your chances are bad. Then, in an opposite situation, if you wanted another drop, you would think lighting staff as trash and not ever notice that was the weapon you once looked for and claimed never came. But your second-search weapon WAS part of the trash from when you ran for your staff, you just didn't notice and dismissed as trash.
It's quite annoying how we are flawed as humnas to only see things in our biased pessimistic ways, but I promise you, the odds are the same. You just feel like they aren't.
Also, Murphy's law isn't a joke, is just an allegorical representation of this perceived loss mixed in frustration for "it always happens to me".
You're not alone, you're not unique, and you're not looking for the hardest weapon to get. Keep farming.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties...PC/Xbox NA
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✭✭codestripper wrote: »See here's what I do, put on a nordic bather's towl then dance right before each boss encounter. It's important that you do a different dance each time. This provides the best RNG statistics and how I got my vMA sharpened lightning staff my 2nd run though. (old meta before these fancy wancy transmute machines)
Sounds legit. I'll work on my dance moves.PC/Xbox NA
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Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
Rng is rng. Your comment is purely anecdotal, as opposed to random being factually R from RNG.
There's something about this subject is psychology. You tend to see the bad a lot more than the good. You'll notice all the weapons you don't need coming on drops until you get the one you need, and it'll feel like your chances are bad. Then, in an opposite situation, if you wanted another drop, you would think lighting staff as trash and not ever notice that was the weapon you once looked for and claimed never came. But your second-search weapon WAS part of the trash from when you ran for your staff, you just didn't notice and dismissed as trash.
It's quite annoying how we are flawed as humnas to only see things in our biased pessimistic ways, but I promise you, the odds are the same. You just feel like they aren't.
Also, Murphy's law isn't a joke, is just an allegorical representation of this perceived loss mixed in frustration for "it always happens to me".
You're not alone, you're not unique, and you're not looking for the hardest weapon to get. Keep farming.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties...
I'll bet you're fun to hold an in-depth conversation with.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa0 -
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Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
Rng is rng. Your comment is purely anecdotal, as opposed to random being factually R from RNG.
There's something about this subject is psychology. You tend to see the bad a lot more than the good. You'll notice all the weapons you don't need coming on drops until you get the one you need, and it'll feel like your chances are bad. Then, in an opposite situation, if you wanted another drop, you would think lighting staff as trash and not ever notice that was the weapon you once looked for and claimed never came. But your second-search weapon WAS part of the trash from when you ran for your staff, you just didn't notice and dismissed as trash.
It's quite annoying how we are flawed as humnas to only see things in our biased pessimistic ways, but I promise you, the odds are the same. You just feel like they aren't.
Also, Murphy's law isn't a joke, is just an allegorical representation of this perceived loss mixed in frustration for "it always happens to me".
You're not alone, you're not unique, and you're not looking for the hardest weapon to get. Keep farming.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties...
Right? That's why no one invites me to parties and I'm always coming back to the forums, opposite to everyone here. No... Wait... And thanks for reading my commentaries
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Thank you, i'm proud of myself too for keeping it civilized ...And thanks for keeping this convo relatively civilized. And I don't have a psychology textbook, I just read a lot.
I code a lot, that's what i do for a living. I've also spent many years coding on games. I also read a lot.
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Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
Rng is rng. Your comment is purely anecdotal, as opposed to random being factually R from RNG.
There's something about this subject is psychology. You tend to see the bad a lot more than the good. You'll notice all the weapons you don't need coming on drops until you get the one you need, and it'll feel like your chances are bad. Then, in an opposite situation, if you wanted another drop, you would think lighting staff as trash and not ever notice that was the weapon you once looked for and claimed never came. But your second-search weapon WAS part of the trash from when you ran for your staff, you just didn't notice and dismissed as trash.
It's quite annoying how we are flawed as humnas to only see things in our biased pessimistic ways, but I promise you, the odds are the same. You just feel like they aren't.
Also, Murphy's law isn't a joke, is just an allegorical representation of this perceived loss mixed in frustration for "it always happens to me".
You're not alone, you're not unique, and you're not looking for the hardest weapon to get. Keep farming.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties...
Right? That's why no one invites me to parties and I'm always coming back to the forums, opposite to everyone here. No... Wait... And thanks for reading my commentaries
Oh, I read them. I just made the conscious decision to be snarky because it was too good to pass up.PC/Xbox NA
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Ohh, the silly superstitions! So cute but so unproved!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »
Follow them if you must, but the best thing to do is to literally just keep going. The drops will come as "random".
It has reliably worked for me for 5 years now, where's your proof that it doesn't work?
Rng is rng. Your comment is purely anecdotal, as opposed to random being factually R from RNG.
There's something about this subject is psychology. You tend to see the bad a lot more than the good. You'll notice all the weapons you don't need coming on drops until you get the one you need, and it'll feel like your chances are bad. Then, in an opposite situation, if you wanted another drop, you would think lighting staff as trash and not ever notice that was the weapon you once looked for and claimed never came. But your second-search weapon WAS part of the trash from when you ran for your staff, you just didn't notice and dismissed as trash.
It's quite annoying how we are flawed as humnas to only see things in our biased pessimistic ways, but I promise you, the odds are the same. You just feel like they aren't.
Also, Murphy's law isn't a joke, is just an allegorical representation of this perceived loss mixed in frustration for "it always happens to me".
You're not alone, you're not unique, and you're not looking for the hardest weapon to get. Keep farming.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties...
I'll bet you're fun to hold an in-depth conversation with.
Only when people present factually correct counter arguments during a conversation and don't resort to condescension. Otherwise, yes, you're absolutely correct and I resort of mindless, idiotic jokes so I can shut down the conversation before I have to hear more.
And no, the irony doesn't escape me here.PC/Xbox NA
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